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(03-24-2019 05:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 04:16 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 11:59 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Trevor Moore, Rashawn Frederics, Eliel Nsoesme. That's 30% of the roster who are veritable negatives when on the court. Take for Example Trevor Moore, he received no other interested from other high major programs, and now we all see why. I don't doubt he " plays hard " but he's a stand still 3 point shooter,except he doesn't make them. Did you see his statline against Iowa? 0 points. 4 fouls.

Fredericks is just a mediocre low division 1 player. His only 3 attempt ( was wide open ) was horribly missed, he cannot drive-or create-he's only in the game to rebound, and even that he doesn't always do. There is almost ZERO chance he will ever develop into anything more.

Eliel...I simply don't know why he even plays the minutes he does. He has ZERO OFFENSIVE GAME. And I mean ZERO. Earlier in the year Mick blamed it on his finger, well fast forward 3 months and guess what? nothing was different. He fouls a lot, and honestly about the only thing he does well is rebound. That doesn't score points-to my point, who would you rather have? a guy like Nsoesme-or a guy like Luka Garza?

These 3 need to transfer or be fired or something. I'm sorry but with those 3 on the roster, we cannot expect demonstrably better results

Saw Trevor(along with Brooks and Scott) at the WNIT game today. Maybe you should have come to the game and told him and his teammates to their faces about how he should transfer or be fired or something instead of whining about it on some message board.

Lol come on man. Horrible take. This is a half step from the popular “Wish you would come tell me face to face blah blah blah.”
It’s a public forum.

Btw, fans did this all year...it’s called booing at a game.

Seem like great guys, I don't recall anyone personally taking shots at any of our players ever on this board. Please refresh my memory if that is wrong. Is it not ok to suggest their talent level is less than what is needed to be a top 10-15 team? At least as a starting role or big role off the bench. Im sure Trevor and Fredericks would be fine players at a school in the A10 or Horizon. This team needs an infusion of talent and skill, and as if now they don't seem to fit that profile.

(03-24-2019 05:23 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 05:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 04:16 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 11:59 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Trevor Moore, Rashawn Frederics, Eliel Nsoesme. That's 30% of the roster who are veritable negatives when on the court. Take for Example Trevor Moore, he received no other interested from other high major programs, and now we all see why. I don't doubt he " plays hard " but he's a stand still 3 point shooter,except he doesn't make them. Did you see his statline against Iowa? 0 points. 4 fouls.

Fredericks is just a mediocre low division 1 player. His only 3 attempt ( was wide open ) was horribly missed, he cannot drive-or create-he's only in the game to rebound, and even that he doesn't always do. There is almost ZERO chance he will ever develop into anything more.

Eliel...I simply don't know why he even plays the minutes he does. He has ZERO OFFENSIVE GAME. And I mean ZERO. Earlier in the year Mick blamed it on his finger, well fast forward 3 months and guess what? nothing was different. He fouls a lot, and honestly about the only thing he does well is rebound. That doesn't score points-to my point, who would you rather have? a guy like Nsoesme-or a guy like Luka Garza?

These 3 need to transfer or be fired or something. I'm sorry but with those 3 on the roster, we cannot expect demonstrably better results

Saw Trevor(along with Brooks and Scott) at the WNIT game today. Maybe you should have come to the game and told him and his teammates to their faces about how he should transfer or be fired or something instead of whining about it on some message board.

Lol come on man. Horrible take. This is a half step from the popular “Wish you would come tell me face to face blah blah blah.”
It’s a public forum.

Btw, fans did this all year...it’s called booing at a game.

Seem like great guys, I don't recall anyone personally taking shots at any of our players ever on this board. Please refresh my memory if that is wrong. Is it not ok to suggest their talent level is less than what is needed to be a top 10-15 team? At least as a starting role or big role off the bench. Im sure Trevor and Fredericks would be fine players at a school in the A10 or Horizon. This team needs an infusion of talent and skill, and as if now they don't seem to fit that profile.

well, I called them stiffs for a while. Does that count? But I retracted it.

Now...if we are talking our bench: ellie, diara, fredericks....man, I just don't see it with them. AT ALL. There are projects and then there are PROJECTS. These guys, at least Ellie and Diara are PROJECTS.

I'll give Fredericks a pass because must JUCO's aren't any good year one.

Meanwhile, Memphis has how many 5 star kids coming in?

yeah...Mick better pick it up fast or we are going to be playing for 3rd or 4th here in a few years.

(03-24-2019 05:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 04:16 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 11:59 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Trevor Moore, Rashawn Frederics, Eliel Nsoesme. That's 30% of the roster who are veritable negatives when on the court. Take for Example Trevor Moore, he received no other interested from other high major programs, and now we all see why. I don't doubt he " plays hard " but he's a stand still 3 point shooter,except he doesn't make them. Did you see his statline against Iowa? 0 points. 4 fouls.

Fredericks is just a mediocre low division 1 player. His only 3 attempt ( was wide open ) was horribly missed, he cannot drive-or create-he's only in the game to rebound, and even that he doesn't always do. There is almost ZERO chance he will ever develop into anything more.

Eliel...I simply don't know why he even plays the minutes he does. He has ZERO OFFENSIVE GAME. And I mean ZERO. Earlier in the year Mick blamed it on his finger, well fast forward 3 months and guess what? nothing was different. He fouls a lot, and honestly about the only thing he does well is rebound. That doesn't score points-to my point, who would you rather have? a guy like Nsoesme-or a guy like Luka Garza?

These 3 need to transfer or be fired or something. I'm sorry but with those 3 on the roster, we cannot expect demonstrably better results

Saw Trevor(along with Brooks and Scott) at the WNIT game today. Maybe you should have come to the game and told him and his teammates to their faces about how he should transfer or be fired or something instead of whining about it on some message board.

Lol come on man. Horrible take. This is a half step from the popular “Wish you would come tell me face to face blah blah blah.”
It’s a public forum.

Btw, fans did this all year...it’s called booing at a game.

Was at every home game this year. Don't recall any booing directed at UC players outside of maybe a little frustration near the end of the tO$U game. Maybe you need to come to more games if you're gonna make claims like that.
As far as a horrible take, several of the posters on this board remind me of a know-it-all little xavier twerp who was several people in front of me at a Bob Huggins signing event many, many years back. He talked sh!t about Huggins the whole time right up until he got in front of him, then it was "yes sir, thank you sir...". I suspect we'd get the same behavior from many of the blowhards here.

(03-24-2019 06:15 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 05:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 04:16 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 11:59 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Trevor Moore, Rashawn Frederics, Eliel Nsoesme. That's 30% of the roster who are veritable negatives when on the court. Take for Example Trevor Moore, he received no other interested from other high major programs, and now we all see why. I don't doubt he " plays hard " but he's a stand still 3 point shooter,except he doesn't make them. Did you see his statline against Iowa? 0 points. 4 fouls.

Fredericks is just a mediocre low division 1 player. His only 3 attempt ( was wide open ) was horribly missed, he cannot drive-or create-he's only in the game to rebound, and even that he doesn't always do. There is almost ZERO chance he will ever develop into anything more.

Eliel...I simply don't know why he even plays the minutes he does. He has ZERO OFFENSIVE GAME. And I mean ZERO. Earlier in the year Mick blamed it on his finger, well fast forward 3 months and guess what? nothing was different. He fouls a lot, and honestly about the only thing he does well is rebound. That doesn't score points-to my point, who would you rather have? a guy like Nsoesme-or a guy like Luka Garza?

These 3 need to transfer or be fired or something. I'm sorry but with those 3 on the roster, we cannot expect demonstrably better results

Saw Trevor(along with Brooks and Scott) at the WNIT game today. Maybe you should have come to the game and told him and his teammates to their faces about how he should transfer or be fired or something instead of whining about it on some message board.

Lol come on man. Horrible take. This is a half step from the popular “Wish you would come tell me face to face blah blah blah.”
It’s a public forum.

Btw, fans did this all year...it’s called booing at a game.

Was at every home game this year. Don't recall any booing directed at UC players outside of maybe a little frustration near the end of the tO$U game. Maybe you need to come to more games if you're gonna make claims like that.
As far as a horrible take, several of the posters on this board remind me of a know-it-all little xavier twerp who was several people in front of me at a Bob Huggins signing event many, many years back. He talked sh!t about Huggins the whole time right up until he got in front of him, then it was "yes sir, thank you sir...". I suspect we'd get the same behavior from many of the blowhards here.

Well that's the beauty of the internet, now isn't it?

Also, when someone disagrees with your opinion, they are a blowhard? Got it.

I hate when players get thrown under the bus but you know who does it the most? Yeah, our HC.

Unfortunately, it's tough to discuss Mick's recruiting & game day coaching shortcomings (yeah, I went there) without mentioning players by name.

(03-24-2019 06:05 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 05:23 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 05:10 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 04:16 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 11:59 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Trevor Moore, Rashawn Frederics, Eliel Nsoesme. That's 30% of the roster who are veritable negatives when on the court. Take for Example Trevor Moore, he received no other interested from other high major programs, and now we all see why. I don't doubt he " plays hard " but he's a stand still 3 point shooter,except he doesn't make them. Did you see his statline against Iowa? 0 points. 4 fouls.

Fredericks is just a mediocre low division 1 player. His only 3 attempt ( was wide open ) was horribly missed, he cannot drive-or create-he's only in the game to rebound, and even that he doesn't always do. There is almost ZERO chance he will ever develop into anything more.

Eliel...I simply don't know why he even plays the minutes he does. He has ZERO OFFENSIVE GAME. And I mean ZERO. Earlier in the year Mick blamed it on his finger, well fast forward 3 months and guess what? nothing was different. He fouls a lot, and honestly about the only thing he does well is rebound. That doesn't score points-to my point, who would you rather have? a guy like Nsoesme-or a guy like Luka Garza?

These 3 need to transfer or be fired or something. I'm sorry but with those 3 on the roster, we cannot expect demonstrably better results

Saw Trevor(along with Brooks and Scott) at the WNIT game today. Maybe you should have come to the game and told him and his teammates to their faces about how he should transfer or be fired or something instead of whining about it on some message board.

Lol come on man. Horrible take. This is a half step from the popular “Wish you would come tell me face to face blah blah blah.”
It’s a public forum.

Btw, fans did this all year...it’s called booing at a game.

Seem like great guys, I don't recall anyone personally taking shots at any of our players ever on this board. Please refresh my memory if that is wrong. Is it not ok to suggest their talent level is less than what is needed to be a top 10-15 team? At least as a starting role or big role off the bench. Im sure Trevor and Fredericks would be fine players at a school in the A10 or Horizon. This team needs an infusion of talent and skill, and as if now they don't seem to fit that profile.

well, I called them stiffs for a while. Does that count? But I retracted it.

Now...if we are talking our bench: ellie, diara, fredericks....man, I just don't see it with them. AT ALL. There are projects and then there are PROJECTS. These guys, at least Ellie and Diara are PROJECTS.

I'll give Fredericks a pass because must JUCO's aren't any good year one.

Meanwhile, Memphis has how many 5 star kids coming in?

yeah...Mick better pick it up fast or we are going to be playing for 3rd or 4th here in a few years.

if we're third or fourth that means the conference is improving and maybe makes us more tested come march. i don't think mick can possibly get worse players and i still think he'll continue to get top 100 guys on occasion. i see us competing if and when the others catch up. the perception of the league getting better maybe we get old big east recruits, which i think mick would've killed it had the big east.....

i think he's capable of it but wouldn't be crushed if we never found out