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(04-02-2019 10:19 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 07:28 PM)Bcatbog Wrote:  “A losing program in the AD will impact the budget if it is a revenue sport because of the increased need for support from the general fund requiring a tuition increase. The bottom line, however, is that students enroll in a University for the quality of the program in their field of interest and not the profile of the AD....save for the student athletes.”

Wrong. Many factors drive the selection decision. Our athletics raise the profile of our university and make it a more attractive destination. Record enrollment trends prove this.

Wait...is that why the cream of the crop in engineering go to MIT? Because of their vibrant AD?

Is that why Harvard Law pulls in the top candidates in their profession...their thriving AD?

Yale?
Penn?
Columbia?

How about UCal Berkley?
UCSF?
NYU?
Northwestern?
Emory?
Carnagie Mellon?
California Institute of Technology?
Cornell?

Johns Hopkins?
Case Western?
Juilliard?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but I think those institutions draw because of the quality of their academic offerings and not their vibrant AD....

You can find schools with both...but the ultimate pick comes down to who has the top academic program for that student's career track....Not the W-L record for MBB or FB.

Athletics are a huge factor once you move past the top level institutions. It helps differentiate UC from their MAC siblings. Ohio State uses their football pedigree to compete against top publics nationwide. Elite academics sell themselves but for everyone else the football and basketball teams are huge marketing arms of the institution.

(04-03-2019 05:34 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Athletics are a huge factor once you move past the top level institutions. It helps differentiate UC from their MAC siblings. Ohio State uses their football pedigree to compete against top publics nationwide. Elite academics sell themselves but for everyone else the football and basketball teams are huge marketing arms of the institution.

100% spot on. I'd say it is probably the overall biggest factor.

(04-03-2019 05:34 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(04-02-2019 10:19 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 07:28 PM)Bcatbog Wrote:  “A losing program in the AD will impact the budget if it is a revenue sport because of the increased need for support from the general fund requiring a tuition increase. The bottom line, however, is that students enroll in a University for the quality of the program in their field of interest and not the profile of the AD....save for the student athletes.”

Wrong. Many factors drive the selection decision. Our athletics raise the profile of our university and make it a more attractive destination. Record enrollment trends prove this.

Wait...is that why the cream of the crop in engineering go to MIT? Because of their vibrant AD?

Is that why Harvard Law pulls in the top candidates in their profession...their thriving AD?

Yale?
Penn?
Columbia?

How about UCal Berkley?
UCSF?
NYU?
Northwestern?
Emory?
Carnagie Mellon?
California Institute of Technology?
Cornell?

Johns Hopkins?
Case Western?
Juilliard?

Correct me if I'm wrong...but I think those institutions draw because of the quality of their academic offerings and not their vibrant AD....

You can find schools with both...but the ultimate pick comes down to who has the top academic program for that student's career track....Not the W-L record for MBB or FB.

Athletics are a huge factor once you move past the top level institutions. It helps differentiate UC from their MAC siblings. Ohio State uses their football pedigree to compete against top publics nationwide. Elite academics sell themselves but for everyone else the football and basketball teams are huge marketing arms of the institution.

Agreed. UC's academics are good and improving, but without big time sports, it would have the national visibility of University of North Texas or Georgia State.