How much will AG William Barr disclose about Mueller's findings to Congress?

Is it true that DOJ regulations don't require maximal disclosure?

Is it true that how much info from Mueller's findings he transmits to Congress is completely at the discretion of Barr?

IF there is legit dirt on Trump found by Mueller (which I don't think there is), can Mueller choose not to indict Trump because of DOJ policy protecting a sitting President?

Also, is it true that Barr might be constrained from releasing info from grand jury proceedings?

(02-28-2019 05:28 PM)TTT Wrote:  How much will AG William Barr disclose about Mueller's findings to Congress?

Dont know, but likely nothing thats unrelated to russian collusion.

Quote:Is it true that DOJ regulations don't require maximal disclosure?

If the DOJ determines there are impeachable offenses committed, they will hand it over to congress. But, again, likely only the info relevant to russian collusion.

Quote:Is it true that how much info from Mueller's findings he transmits to Congress is completely at the discretion of Barr?

Yes. Its is a DOJ special counsel under the direction and supervision of the DOJ. It has nothing to do with congress, and congress isnt entitled to anything the DOJ doesnt want them to have. Congress can subpoena, but Barr can flip them the bird. He is protected by the separations clause.

Quote:IF there is legit dirt on Trump found by Mueller (which I don't think there is), can Mueller choose not to indict Trump because of DOJ policy protecting a sitting President?

Noone, including Mueller, can indict Trump as a sitting president.

Quote:Also, is it true that Barr might be constrained from releasing info from grand jury proceedings?

grand jury proceedings are classified. (Which is why Mueller is in hot water about having to defend how CNN got a heads-up and was at Roger Stones arrest. )

Seems like the Dem's have already accepted the fact that Mueller's report won't show anything of substance...and they'll just fall back on the argument of "Well, we didn't get the FULL report be/c Barr didn't disclose it because he's Trump hire and a republican etc."...is this what Dem's are setting up for when they don't like what the findings show???

(02-28-2019 05:53 PM)TTT Wrote:  Seems like the Dem's have already accepted the fact that Mueller's report won't show anything of substance...and they'll just fall back on the argument of "Well, we didn't get the FULL report be/c Barr didn't disclose it because he's Trump hire and a republican etc."...is this what Dem's are setting up for when they don't like what the findings show???

This, this whole thing Hs been a face since the get go. One big nothing burger.


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(02-28-2019 05:53 PM)TTT Wrote:  Seems like the Dem's have already accepted the fact that Mueller's report won't show anything of substance...and they'll just fall back on the argument of "Well, we didn't get the FULL report be/c Barr didn't disclose it because he's Trump hire and a republican etc."...is this what Dem's are setting up for when they don't like what the findings show???

The dems, especially their lunatic fringe, have been hoping all along for some bombshell disclosure. They’ve known all along that they had to catch Trump red-handed. You knew they had accepted this wouldn’t happen when the number of f-bombs used to reference trump rise steeply among them. It’ll go down a lot like most of their “election controversies”: there will be a lot of smoke, but it will soon fizzle when they realize most people aren’t interested in the fire they are trying to start. Instead, you will see a lot more twisted rhetoric and comparisons. “Hillary was under investigation forever and never did anything dirty like Trump did” and “most of the country wants the same things we do” will be their consolation prizes, and most of the left won’t even care about how much they are being misled. When it comes to The Great Leftist Narrative, being on the right side of history is always more important than doing what is right.

(02-28-2019 09:00 PM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 05:53 PM)TTT Wrote:  Seems like the Dem's have already accepted the fact that Mueller's report won't show anything of substance...and they'll just fall back on the argument of "Well, we didn't get the FULL report be/c Barr didn't disclose it because he's Trump hire and a republican etc."...is this what Dem's are setting up for when they don't like what the findings show???

The dems, especially their lunatic fringe, have been hoping all along for some bombshell disclosure. They’ve known all along that they had to catch Trump red-handed. You knew they had accepted this wouldn’t happen when the number of f-bombs used to reference trump rise steeply among them. It’ll go down a lot like most of their “election controversies”: there will be a lot of smoke, but it will soon fizzle when they realize most people aren’t interested in the fire they are trying to start. Instead, you will see a lot more twisted rhetoric and comparisons. “Hillary was under investigation forever and never did anything dirty like Trump did” and “most of the country wants the same things we do” will be their consolation prizes, and most of the left won’t even care about how much they are being misled. When it comes to The Great Leftist Narrative, being on the right side of history is always more important than doing what is right.

somebody's been paying att'n....well done!

It moved. Bumping this thread.

I'm really hoping the full report is released so neither side can cry foul.

(03-22-2019 09:30 PM)TTT Wrote:  I'm really hoping the full report is released so neither side can cry foul.

I’m really hoping the entire stupid-asss “report” is not only released, but binded , indexed, cited and sent to every mailbox in the USA.

What else are these fools looking or hoping for?
Really?

Donald J. Trump is a ROOOSKIES!!! agent?!!?

Yea, he fits the bill/profile.

Folks be insane, bruh.

Time to have a special council of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

I heard a good commentator on this but I don't recall who it was.

There are a number of things that cannot be released to the public. There are other things that cannot be released at all.

Nothing dealing with any classified information can be released to the public. The Democrats can push for the information to be re-classified for release. I think wherever possible the Trump administration will do this. It is better to disarm them than be accused of covering up.

If I understood correctly, nothing submitted to a grand jury that did not return an indictment can be released AT ALL. The Democrats will not see that information. They are going to raise hell about it, but it is the law.

Mueller's choices control all of this, and that is something that worries me. He may have intentionally chosen to bury some things that were mildly incriminating. He was in a win-win situation. If he got the indictment, he wins. But if he doesn't, then the accusation can still be made by the Democrats while the evidence to disprove the accusations remains under grand jury seal.

This is the play we are about to see. The same old accusations. Trump saying he's innocent. Dem's saying to prove it. The testimony that did prove it - sealed.

The character assassinations will continue unabated.

EDIT TO ADD: My understanding of the sealed grand jury evidence is that it cannot even be included in the report.

(03-23-2019 01:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  Time to have a special council of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

at this point, Im ok with Barr doing it.

(03-23-2019 03:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 01:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  Time to have a special council of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

at this point, Im ok with Barr doing it.

As with Mueller, a SC will pull out all stops to find something. I say let em have it. Investigate them and leak chit out for the next two years.

(03-23-2019 03:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 01:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  Time to have a special counsel of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

at this point, Im ok with Barr doing it.

I just want SOMEBODY to do it. And the sooner, the better.

The full, unedited report should be shared with the public immediately. If Barr won’t do it, Trump needs to go around him and do it himself.

(03-23-2019 08:37 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  The full, unedited report should be shared with the public immediately. If Barr won’t do it, Trump needs to go around him and do it himself.

The "full unedited" report may not contain any classified information and from what I have read it CANNOT contain anything under grand jury seal.

Let's say they tried to bring charges on Jared, but were unsuccessful. The way I understand it none of that can be in the report - not even the fact they went to the grand jury. None of the evidence can be released. His privacy would override any desire for transparency.

(03-23-2019 01:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  Time to have a special council of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

Indeed, I see it coming.

(03-23-2019 04:13 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 03:52 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 01:21 AM)hburg Wrote:  Time to have a special council of the dems on russian collusion and potential overthrow of a sitting president???

at this point, Im ok with Barr doing it.

As with Mueller, a SC will pull out all stops to find something. I say let em have it. Investigate them and leak chit out for the next two years.

And send a few of them off to jail for process crimes.