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Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

(03-22-2019 02:04 PM)jarr Wrote:  Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

Bad luck and bad situational coaching

(03-22-2019 02:05 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:04 PM)jarr Wrote:  Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

Bad luck and bad situational coaching

Yeah, it doesn't have to be zero sum. Would have been nice to win today because it would have shown concrete progress in a "rebuilding" year.

I didn't see us getting past Tenn though.

(03-22-2019 02:05 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:04 PM)jarr Wrote:  Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

Bad luck and bad situational coaching

^^^ On the dot

Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I don't believe in "luck."

(03-22-2019 02:20 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I think I will wait to next year if he gets Cumberland back. Another early exit, I think I am there.

(03-22-2019 02:21 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I don't believe in "luck."

Agreed. Maybe a one time outlier, but 6-11 is a pattern

(03-22-2019 02:26 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:21 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I don't believe in "luck."

Agreed. Maybe a one time outlier, but 6-11 is a pattern

this

if one wants to say bad luck and bad situational coaching, ok, then its

95% bad situational coaching
5% bad luck

(03-22-2019 02:25 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:20 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I think I will wait to next year if he gets Cumberland back. Another early exit, I think I am there.

Can’t recruit, can’t adjust, makes excuses when he loses, not likeable by fans, can’t win in March w/ NBA talent. No accountability for his staff that either sucks or retires early due to arrest.

We deserve more.

(03-22-2019 02:29 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:25 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:20 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I think I will wait to next year if he gets Cumberland back. Another early exit, I think I am there.

Can’t recruit, can’t adjust, makes excuses when he loses, not likeable by fans, can’t win in March w/ NBA talent. No accountability for his staff that either sucks or retires early due to arrest.

We deserve more.

Yes we do. We had over 10K fans at a NCAA tourney game. Mediocre teams don't do that. Alot of P5 schools dont do that. This fanbase cares about this program, it is just hard as hell to constantly support it financially and with time when Mick consistently underperforms.

(03-22-2019 02:25 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:20 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I think I will wait to next year if he gets Cumberland back. Another early exit, I think I am there.

Kind of where I am at as well...if we go 10 years in a row to the NCAA Tournament and only have ONE Sweet 16, then this program is clearly accepting its role as a mid-major top 25-35 type program. This was supposed to be somewhat of a rebuilding year, but next year is the put up or shut up year that will determine my support (financially / emotionally) in a Mick Cronin led basketball team.

At least no family members are battling cancer.

(03-22-2019 02:40 PM)SeniorBearcat Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:25 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:20 PM)Tymanh99 Wrote:  Bad coaching for the past 13+ years.

Time for a change.

I think I will wait to next year if he gets Cumberland back. Another early exit, I think I am there.

Kind of where I am at as well...if we go 10 years in a row to the NCAA Tournament and only have ONE Sweet 16, then this program is clearly accepting its role as a mid-major top 25-35 type program. This was supposed to be somewhat of a rebuilding year, but next year is the put up or shut up year that will determine my support (financially / emotionally) in a Mick Cronin led basketball team.

You're giving him another year?

Hope springs eternal.

(03-22-2019 02:05 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:04 PM)jarr Wrote:  Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

Bad luck and bad situational coaching

Lack of talent after first six players. Unless your top five or six are Duke, UK, or UNC level we need depth. More than anything else in our tournament losses UC faded in 2nd half of tournament games. It actually started in Huggins last few years and has continued under Mick. We don’t have the 1990’s level talent.

Last two season was the closest UC had to actual real talent. We need NBA level players or at least a bunch of G league guys. We had one all conference level and that’s is it.

Mick gets them to play hard, heck of a job to get into the tournament this year but they need more talent for next season.

(03-22-2019 02:57 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:05 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 02:04 PM)jarr Wrote:  Is that just bad luck, or more to it? Honestly just asking. I think it is mostly a talent thing in my opinion.

Bad luck and bad situational coaching

Lack of talent after first six players. Unless your top five or six are Duke, UK, or UNC level we need depth. More than anything else in our tournament losses UC faded in 2nd half of tournament games. It actually started in Huggins last few years and has continued under Mick. We don’t have the 1990’s level talent.

Last two season was the closest UC had to actual real talent. We need NBA level players or at least a bunch of G league guys. We had one all conference level and that’s is it.

Mick gets them to play hard, heck of a job to get into the tournament this year but they need more talent for next season.

agree but this seems to be an ongoing issue most years with Mick....soooooo