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(03-22-2019 03:38 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Mick's March Madness Excuse Generator

Choose one from list A. and one from list B. and combine to cover each of the past nine NCAA Tournaments:
A.
bad seed line for us
bad match-up for us
bad travel distance for us
bad altitude for us
bad start time for us

B.
offensively challenged today
defensively challenged today
the other team made unbelievable shots
we missed shots we normally make
the one official had it in for UC player x (but you know I can't comment on officiating)

Please feel free to write-in additional selections.
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Seriously folks, we have this thread most every year at this time and nothing changes come March. We're still filling open scholarships with guys who can't shoot and expecting different results. The number of players who are recruited and immediately redshirted is indicative of a talent issue when competing at this level. If a coaching change occurred after this year you can bet there would be major personnel changes in the short run.

And please, let's not compare our consecutive tournament appearances with Gonzaga only to get laughed out of any conversation with serious students of the game who reside outside I-275. That school has been to the national championship game during this same time frame.

talent and recruiting the wins games. We are well by AAC but lack the depth to make a seriousrun. It also would be nice to play a team that isn’t top 20 in offense, which really exposes our depth problem.

(03-22-2019 03:44 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 03:38 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  Mick's March Madness Excuse Generator

Choose one from list A. and one from list B. and combine to cover each of the past nine NCAA Tournaments:
A.
bad seed line for us
bad match-up for us
bad travel distance for us
bad altitude for us
bad start time for us

B.
offensively challenged today
defensively challenged today
the other team made unbelievable shots
we missed shots we normally make
the one official had it in for UC player x (but you know I can't comment on officiating)

Please feel free to write-in additional selections.
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Seriously folks, we have this thread most every year at this time and nothing changes come March. We're still filling open scholarships with guys who can't shoot and expecting different results. The number of players who are recruited and immediately redshirted is indicative of a talent issue when competing at this level. If a coaching change occurred after this year you can bet there would be major personnel changes in the short run.

And please, let's not compare our consecutive tournament appearances with Gonzaga only to get laughed out of any conversation with serious students of the game who reside outside I-275. That school has been to the national championship game during this same time frame.

talent and recruiting the wins games. We are well by AAC but lack the depth to make a seriousrun. It also would be nice to play a team that isn’t top 20 in offense, which really exposes our depth problem.

Maybe shoot for the NIT next year? Not too many top 20 offenses there.

I think we take a step back and congratulate this group on getting a conference tournament championship and making the tournament.

We also need to hold the coaching staff accountable for the lack of talent on the roster. The bench stunk all year. You have to recruit better than Fredricks, Moore, and our two backup bigs. You also have to play Logan Johnson more minutes because he is your future.

(03-22-2019 01:54 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 01:43 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 01:25 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Just so painfully obvious that everything about him reeks mid major. His recruiting, his offense, his defense, his in game coaching, nothing is gonna change. His gaudy record would be half of what it is if we consistently played in a major conference. If mid major season or conf. titles are your cup of tea, then he is your guy, I WANT MUCH MORE. WE DESERVE MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we are doing just fine. We lost to a very good big 10 team that shoots 3's exceptionally. Coach Cronin brought UC out of the ashes of oblivion after taking over a disastrous non-recruiting year by andy kennedy. We'll be just fine. We have the most victories over the past 3 yrs except for Gonzaga. 9 straight NCAA appearances, dude. Expecting uc to win the national championship every year is not going to happen. Kentucky doesn't even see that happen with all their money power and cheating. Maybe you would rather see UC in the NIT and winning that one. I DON'T THINK SO. Congrats on a great year, Coach Cronin, and next year might be even a better year. Continue with your recruiting of good, decent young men that love school. We see where Huggies is at now.

I don't expect a national championship every year, I would just like to be in contention once in a while. It's not going to happen under Cronin.

Exactly, I do expect some Sweet 16 and Elite 8. His style of play doesn't win in March!

Listening to Hoard and Nelson on radio. Hoard posed a great question late in the game when losing was apparent. Don't remember exact wording but it went something like: Do great offensive teams win more in the NCAA than great defensive ones? Nelson said defensive was important, but if you can't score what good is a great defense.

My thought was simple. No such thing as a shutout in basketball.

(03-22-2019 04:16 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  I think we take a step back and congratulate this group on getting a conference tournament championship and making the tournament.

We also need to hold the coaching staff accountable for the lack of talent on the roster. The bench stunk all year. You have to recruit better than Fredricks, Moore, and our two backup bigs. You also have to play Logan Johnson more minutes because he is your future.

I've been reading a lot of the Mick guys posting on twitter that Mick has recruited shooters and they have listed Trevor Moore as an example. It made me think to a couple other issues with the recruiting philosophy here and how a couple times some have brought up comparisons to Coach Fickell's philosophy.

Mick likes to recruits in the South and on the east coast. Reminds of Coach Fickell's comments on why he recruits Ohio/Midwest guys instead of the locations that were favored by Tubbs and CBJ. Fick says he gets the local guys because he knows those programs and how those kids have been coached. Made me think about the decision to get a Trevor Moore in Houston instead of a shooter out of Greater Cincinnati/NKY, Dayton or somewhere else in the state.

The other issue with recruiting, which has been discussed many times is not bringing in guys to challenge the guys on the roster. Competition just makes everyone in the room better. If some guys don't like it then maybe they are not right for the program. Coach Fick is continuing to bring in guys-- we got 4 RBS on the roster right now that arguably would be starting in most eras of this football program. We have 2 QBs in Desmond Ridder and Ben Bryant and they just brought in another stud. By all accounts Fickell has an open QB competition in the hopes that the competition will result in everyone playing a step above their talent level.

(03-22-2019 04:32 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 04:16 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  I think we take a step back and congratulate this group on getting a conference tournament championship and making the tournament.

We also need to hold the coaching staff accountable for the lack of talent on the roster. The bench stunk all year. You have to recruit better than Fredricks, Moore, and our two backup bigs. You also have to play Logan Johnson more minutes because he is your future.

I've been reading a lot of the Mick guys posting on twitter that Mick has recruited shooters and they have listed Trevor Moore as an example. It made me think to a couple other issues with the recruiting philosophy here and how a couple times some have brought up comparisons to Coach Fickell's philosophy.

Mick likes to recruits in the South and on the east coast. Reminds of Coach Fickell's comments on why he recruits Ohio/Midwest guys instead of the locations that were favored by Tubbs and CBJ. Fick says he gets the local guys because he knows those programs and how those kids have been coached. Made me think about the decision to get a Trevor Moore in Houston instead of a shooter out of Greater Cincinnati/NKY, Dayton or somewhere else in the state.

The other issue with recruiting, which has been discussed many times is not bringing in guys to challenge the guys on the roster. Competition just makes everyone in the room better. If some guys don't like it then maybe they are not right for the program. Coach Fick is continuing to bring in guys-- we got 4 RBS on the roster right now that arguably would be starting in most eras of this football program. We have 2 QBs in Desmond Ridder and Ben Bryant and they just brought in another stud. By all accounts Fickell has an open QB competition in the hopes that the competition will result in everyone playing a step above their talent level.

exactly...I just posted in another thread Cronin is loyal to upplerclassman/seniors to a fault.

“Tough situation to play another team that was in the top 25 more than we were in the first round.” -Coach Cronin after the Iowa loss.


really?

(03-22-2019 04:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  “Tough situation to play another team that was in the top 25 more than we were in the first round.” -Coach Cronin after the Iowa loss.


really?

See, he doesn't see it or doesn't want to see the problem, look in the mirror.

Our best win OOC this year got spanked by 23 today. Sheesh.

the twitter post who posted that gem from Micky is ugly. People are lighting Mick up.

That is some absolute weak sauce excuses and I just lost some respect for the man. Terrible. smh

(03-22-2019 04:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  “Tough situation to play another team that was in the top 25 more than we were in the first round.” -Coach Cronin after the Iowa loss.


really?

He is right. Get more talent and become a protected seed every year so you can play a crap team in the first game.

From CUSA, to the Big East, to the AAC.. Mick pulled us out of the ditch when he got here (read the Forgotten Bearcats) and has kept us relevant during the upheaval of the AAC years (look at UCONN).. If we are getting in the tournament,, we've got a chance to make a run.. I prefer that to UConn's situation.. Little disappointed right now,, but it was a great year...Go Cats..

(03-22-2019 04:55 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  “Tough situation to play another team that was in the top 25 more than we were in the first round.” -Coach Cronin after the Iowa loss.


really?

Does this sound like someone you would want to go into battle with? Major milktoast weak sauce right there.

(03-22-2019 03:08 PM)Blitz0921 Wrote:  I hope some P5 team convinces Mick to leave and we get to start fresh. We are a joke in March.

Who wants him?

I'm being dead serious here.

Who the hell wants him?

(03-22-2019 05:17 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 03:08 PM)Blitz0921 Wrote:  I hope some P5 team convinces Mick to leave and we get to start fresh. We are a joke in March.

Who wants him?

I'm being dead serious here.

Who the hell wants him?

UNLV job is open again.

(03-22-2019 05:22 PM)jarr Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 05:17 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(03-22-2019 03:08 PM)Blitz0921 Wrote:  I hope some P5 team convinces Mick to leave and we get to start fresh. We are a joke in March.

Who wants him?

I'm being dead serious here.

Who the hell wants him?

UNLV job is open again.

You think they would go after Little Micky right now?

LMAO.

Found this picture in an Investment folder from 2008, seems relevant here for some reason

One of less then 10 coaches who has made 9 straight NCAA tournaments, who is averaging 30 wins over his last 3 years. Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of teams that haven't made an NCAA tournament in multiple years who would hate to have him.

If Mick wanted to coach outside of Cincinnati he could do so easily and get paid more then he is here.