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(03-22-2019 10:10 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 09:53 AM)owlsfan Wrote:  Given the lengths the big sports revenues schools will go to bend (break? spit on as if they did not exist?) the rules for their "student athletes" (even Duke, who run basketball teams onto the court with players who take 9 hours of courses in the fall, and do not go to school any more in their second semester, thus making "one and done" a gross overstatement), I am not sure Rice can compete in football and basketball. Maybe Rice can, but it is not a level playing field.

In baseball and women's sports, where you can more easily pitch the quality of the Rice degree as a recruitment tool, with many fewer of the pool of candidates you are recruiting projecting earning a living from the sport they are playing, we have much better shot.

Given where the school sits (one of the best recruiting areas for baseball in the country; warm weather to allow realistic year round outdoor play), not being competitive in baseball is close to a disgrace. That we are a weak program now I cannot attribute to our AD; let's see how good his new hire is, and how well he supports the new hire from a resource standpoint.

While I agree with much of the above, JK has had a clear role in the demise and downfall of the baseball program. The way he handled everything with Coach Graham was disappointing to say the least, and he hired someone completely outside the box. He also appears to have little to no interest in baseball and as a season ticket holder, I personally have not seen him at a single game this season.

It's way too early to pass judgement on the new baseball regime and based on what I have heard everything is trending in the right direction (aside from W's/L's). JK had better hope everything pans out because his hands off and outside the box approach has jeopardized our most prominent program.

I still haven’t seen any evidence of this demise brought around by the AD.

Football: he clearly wanted to replace Bailiff. Let’s see how Bloom does. He helped raise the money for an endowed coaching position and a much needed new EZ facility. Luxury upgrades to the stadium are in the works as well as an indoor practice facility. Football is the $$$

Basketball: He fired Braun. Hired Rhoades. Clearly that was the right hire but he didn’t manage to retain him. Some make it sound like no salary would’ve convinced Rhoades to stay. Hired Pera and for now we’re back on the correct path. TBD

Baseball. 2013 we made a run to the supers. Since then we’ve been slowly dropping to the 7th or 8th best team in the state. The AD can’t change our admissions policies. He can’t choose who we recruit. He can only change the HC (and some of you here didn’t think he should even be allowed to do that). Wayne made our program great but he was clearly well past his prime. He didn’t recruit. I know he didn’t even meet some players until they got to campus. He was from a different generation of baseball. Our S&C fell behind other programs. It was time for a change and honestly the only mistake Karlgaard made was not making the change a year earlier because we made a magical run through the conference tourney.

Women’s sports have been solid. WBB has been a homerun.

Men’s golf and tennis have been up and down. Honestly I’ve always though we should be better in golf.


In the end it’s all going to come down to his hires in the big 3. Pera showed promise with his real first freshman class and now he has to build. Bloom needs to show promise in year 2. I’d like to see some life in baseball but I’m not going to pass judgement on Bragga until year 3.
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And I will agree he doesn’t come off as very likable but I don’t really care. If we accomplish our goals and he wants to let other people in the department mingle with us low level donors so be it.
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(03-22-2019 10:33 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  And I will agree he doesn’t come off as very likable but I don’t really care. If we accomplish our goals and he wants to let other people in the department mingle with us low level donors so be it.

That is the problem to say we are "low level donors" is a joke. As an AD it your role to not only make decisions that benefit the athletic department but also to make sure donors feel welcomed and WANT to continue to give to the program. It is not hard to make appearances, talk with alumni, and act interested in the school that is paying your salary. I have a problem with someone who acts like we are "low level" donors. Low level donors are a hell of a lot better than no donors at all.

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(03-22-2019 10:19 AM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:14 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Besides doing a terrible job with our three major men’s sports, does anybody think JK is likable?

He isn’t outgoing, acts like an elitist, and has no apparent affection for Rice.

This.

I defer to your personal knowledge of him; I have none. He shouldn't be that way. It isn't as if he is slumming at Rice.

I always thought AD's had to be hardy, well-met fellows, with one hand around your shoulder and the other in your pocket.
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(03-21-2019 05:32 PM)bobreinhold1 Wrote:  He doesn't spend much time socializing with the fans, but he's at almost every game when he's in town. He told me he only missed one game last year when his child had some activity. He's usually in his suite.

He is never in his suite!!!!!!
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(03-22-2019 08:45 AM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  
(03-19-2019 03:35 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(03-19-2019 01:52 PM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(03-19-2019 01:43 PM)RiceFootball2K5 Wrote:  
(03-19-2019 12:49 PM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  From what I hear they are throwing a lefty tonight. DiCaprio is still out, Frazier in a 1st after a short stint on the DL.

I wish we'd catch Frazier and put Collins at first. Hopefully Collins will be able to walk by the end of the season.

I believe Frazier is still nursing a hamstring or other leg injury. Would expect him to resume some catching duties once he is at full strength?

Strained knee.

What's Comeaux's status? He's out an awfully long time for simply a "stiff knee" after falling on the OU dugout steps after misjudging the foul pop.

My sources say Brandt injured his hamstring.

Dom out for the year. Comeaux is back
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(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?
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(03-22-2019 10:14 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Besides doing a terrible job with our three major men’s sports, does anybody think JK is likable?

He isn’t outgoing, acts like an elitist, and has no apparent affection for Rice.

I'm not sure what else JK can do. He clearly wanted to get rid of Bailiff and Graham before he could; each had a crony 25(0) stymieing any progress. Heck, look at the constant whinging about it still. He got rid of Braun and got rid of Williams, replacing both with good hires.

These posts blaming JK for our inability to field and execute are akin to giving him the credit for the improved Soccer and VB performances under his tenure. Yes they happened, but they weren't due to Karlgaard.

He isn't outgoing and a bit standoffish, yes. But he has people working for him that aren't, so while it isn't perfect, it isn't the Greenspan era. Unlike his predecessors, JK seems to actually know math and not the Enron/1MDB type stuff.

My standard of review is whether I could do better or I could find someone to do better. With Karlgaard, given the absolute cluster inherited and the bhumiputra type cronies pulling strings, I'm glad its not me.
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(03-22-2019 06:21 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?

Yet another example of the entitled members of this forum thinking they are better than everyone else.

My profile picture, along with anyone else's, could be Papa Smurf, Aunt Jemima, or Barack Hussein Obama and you would still attempt to discredit anything you don't agree with with some snide little remark.
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(03-22-2019 06:21 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?

Walt owns twitter. It's safer here than it is there. But you should are aware of that I'm sure Bucky the all knowing pirate.
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(03-22-2019 10:14 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Besides doing a terrible job with our three major men’s sports, does anybody think JK is likable?

He isn’t outgoing, acts like an elitist, and has no apparent affection for Rice.

I haven't had any extended interactions with JK, but what does that even mean?
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(03-25-2019 09:51 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 06:21 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?

Yet another example of the entitled members of this forum thinking they are better than everyone else.

My profile picture, along with anyone else's, could be Papa Smurf, Aunt Jemima, or Barack Hussein Obama and you would still attempt to discredit anything you don't agree with with some snide little remark.

My point was that your "case" was a barely that. It was a one sentence opinion with no backing, no followup. So yeah, it reads exactly like your profile picture does on twitter.

You want your case to be not dismissed? Actually make one.
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(03-25-2019 02:51 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 09:51 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 06:21 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?

Yet another example of the entitled members of this forum thinking they are better than everyone else.

My profile picture, along with anyone else's, could be Papa Smurf, Aunt Jemima, or Barack Hussein Obama and you would still attempt to discredit anything you don't agree with with some snide little remark.

My point was that your "case" was a barely that. It was a one sentence opinion with no backing, no followup. So yeah, it reads exactly like your profile picture does on twitter.

You want your case to be not dismissed? Actually make one.

Considering how many times people have discussed their displeasure with him it would be redundant to cite something. You are just a contrarian who likes to oppose everyone on here then turn around and contradict yourself with a similar statement on another thread.
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(03-25-2019 02:58 PM)Throwing Chade Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 02:51 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 09:51 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 06:21 PM)Antarius Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:22 AM)RiceOwl Wrote:  Not very likable and has done a poor job.

He stinks.

Your profile picture is appropriate for these well thought out opinions.

May I recommend twitter?

Yet another example of the entitled members of this forum thinking they are better than everyone else.

My profile picture, along with anyone else's, could be Papa Smurf, Aunt Jemima, or Barack Hussein Obama and you would still attempt to discredit anything you don't agree with with some snide little remark.

My point was that your "case" was a barely that. It was a one sentence opinion with no backing, no followup. So yeah, it reads exactly like your profile picture does on twitter.

You want your case to be not dismissed? Actually make one.

Considering how many times people have discussed their displeasure with him it would be redundant to cite something. You are just a contrarian who likes to oppose everyone on here then turn around and contradict yourself with a similar statement on another thread.

Please read upthread on my reasoning. I responded to some of the cited negative issues and if you disagree, feel free to refute them. Just because people here are unhappy with him, doesn't mean he is the worst. Remember, people loved the football coach and kept Braun around through multiple extensions - did that make them great?

I'm only a contrarian to wrong opinions.
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(03-25-2019 02:34 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:14 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Besides doing a terrible job with our three major men’s sports, does anybody think JK is likable?

He isn’t outgoing, acts like an elitist, and has no apparent affection for Rice.

I haven't had any extended interactions with JK, but what does that even mean?
Good question!

Meanwhile, I have had extended interactions with Joe, and I have found him to be friendly, thoughtful, and interesting. I have not found him to "act like an elitist" (whatever that means). Most recently, Joe sat directly behind me at the Rice-Marquette game and he was great company -- which I said to him at the time.

Of course, I tend to find most people likable, and vice versa. Perhaps the same dynamic applies in the negative.
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Antarius has been and never will be incorrect.

Rather than waste brain cells and time debating you, I stand by my original comments.

He stinks.
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(03-22-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Basketball: He fired Braun. Hired Rhoades. Clearly that was the right hire but he didn’t manage to retain him. Some make it sound like no salary would’ve convinced Rhoades to stay. TBD

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(03-25-2019 03:52 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Basketball: He fired Braun. Hired Rhoades. Clearly that was the right hire but he didn’t manage to retain him. Some make it sound like no salary would’ve convinced Rhoades to stay. TBD

03-lmfao

If Rhoades had been convinced to stay would you be upset? There’s a high probability we would’ve won the conference and been in the NCAA tournament by now. Should we only hire coaches we think want to stay at Rice their whole career? That sounds like a terrible decision to me.
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(03-25-2019 03:57 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 03:52 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Basketball: He fired Braun. Hired Rhoades. Clearly that was the right hire but he didn’t manage to retain him. Some make it sound like no salary would’ve convinced Rhoades to stay. TBD

03-lmfao

If Rhoades had been convinced to stay would you be upset? There’s a high probability we would’ve won the conference and been in the NCAA tournament by now. Should we only hire coaches we think want to stay at Rice their whole career? That sounds like a terrible decision to me.

Rhoades definitely wanted to leave, and especially for VCU.

If coaches don't want to stay, then how can they be convinced to stay? You want Karlgaard to hire ambitious coaches and then somehow talk them out of their ambition. 01-wingedeagle
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(03-25-2019 04:40 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 03:57 PM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(03-25-2019 03:52 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:  
(03-22-2019 10:32 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  Basketball: He fired Braun. Hired Rhoades. Clearly that was the right hire but he didn’t manage to retain him. Some make it sound like no salary would’ve convinced Rhoades to stay. TBD

03-lmfao

If Rhoades had been convinced to stay would you be upset? There’s a high probability we would’ve won the conference and been in the NCAA tournament by now. Should we only hire coaches we think want to stay at Rice their whole career? That sounds like a terrible decision to me.

Rhoades definitely wanted to leave, and especially for VCU.

If coaches don't want to stay, then how can they be convinced to stay? You want Karlgaard to hire ambitious coaches and then somehow talk them out of their ambition. 01-wingedeagle

I agree. We need to hire ambitious coaches. I was questioning what WRC wanted JK to do. Our program was on the correct trajectory with Rhoades and it seems to be back on that path with Pera.
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