4 NIU players transferring.

https://www.daily-chronicle.com/2019/03/...g/asy4m1m/

(03-27-2019 10:17 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  4 NIU players transferring.

https://www.daily-chronicle.com/2019/03/...g/asy4m1m/

Gotta hurt to lose the MAC’s only ten syllable player.

James Gordon, seldom used 6’5” PF, leaving Toledo as expected.

(03-26-2019 09:31 AM)BobcatFan92 Wrote:  Meh, Carter to Xavier is a blow. Kirk is addition by subtraction. He was more likely "asked" to leave as opposed to transferring on his own

Losing Carter is tough but I'm still happy I never have to see Kirk drive 1-on-5 with guys wide open on the wings ever again. Boals truly building from scratch as the Bobcats lose four of their top 5 scorers. Keeping my fingers crossed we can keep Ben Vander Plas and Jason Preston.

(03-26-2019 09:31 AM)BobcatFan92 Wrote:  

(03-26-2019 05:20 AM)pono Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 10:58 PM)pono Wrote:  groce will consistently have a lot of turnover.

adaway leaving miami is a bit of a blow. they've lost some key guys to transfer over the past 4 or 5 years

with olajapoke now leaving Akron has had 7 players transfer out in the past 12 months

and if OU wasn't struggling enough with carter's exit, starting guard treyveon kirk is leaving

Meh, Carter to Xavier is a blow. Kirk is addition by subtraction. He was more likely "asked" to leave as opposed to transferring on his own

I don't think there's any way Kirk was asked to leave. If you're a new coach hoping to establish a program, you don't send away experienced guards. I'm guessing he was out the door the minute Saul was not re-upped. Couple possibilities... Kirk was more valuable as a 2 guard with JP running the show toward the end of the season, even without much of an outside shot, but Boals system might not be conducive to that role and I would bet Kirk was looking at a role as a backup point guard next season.

(03-27-2019 01:40 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-27-2019 10:17 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  4 NIU players transferring.

https://www.daily-chronicle.com/2019/03/...g/asy4m1m/

Gotta hurt to lose the MAC’s only ten syllable player.

Yea he was a once-in-a-generation type player when it comes to syllables.

A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

(03-30-2019 03:57 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

Poorly researched. Nader, Marin and Stainbrook, all recent transfers to prominent conferences, had good careers post transfer.

(03-30-2019 07:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:57 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

Poorly researched. Nader, Marin and Stainbrook, all recent transfers to prominent conferences, had good careers post transfer.

well, of course he can't include those guys. they would have wrecked his whole "the MAC sucks" argument! what a hack this guy is.

(04-01-2019 12:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 07:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:57 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

Poorly researched. Nader, Marin and Stainbrook, all recent transfers to prominent conferences, had good careers post transfer.

well, of course he can't include those guys. they would have wrecked his whole "the MAC sucks" argument! what a hack this guy is.

Not picking a side here ... but story does not list ALL the players who have transferred since whenever the Lewis kid went to OSU nor does it list ALL the kids who made a bad mistake and ALL the kids who made a good one.

But if you are trying to say more MAC kids made good transfer choices than bad ones, based in part on a kid who went to DePaul ... DE-FRIGGIN-PAUL.... whew. I don't know what to tell ya.

Transfers, in I would guess 75-percent of the cases, are not good ... period.

At least the Plain Dealer makes some sort of effort to cover the MAC, even though it's done kind of half a$$. Outside of Cleveland, does any of the other major media markets in the MAC footprint write stories on the MAC as a whole(Detroit, Cincy, Chicago, Indy)? It's a genuine question. I haven't seen any shared here. Wasn't sure if that was because people don't post them or if it's because the MAC gets no coverage in those markets.

Don't have to worry about EA anymore. He was layed off from PD yesterday along with others.

(04-02-2019 07:07 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  Don't have to worry about EA anymore. He was layed off from PD yesterday along with others.

It's sad that local print journalism's being destroyed at a time when it's needed most.

(04-02-2019 07:36 AM)Copy Cat Wrote:  

(04-02-2019 07:07 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  Don't have to worry about EA anymore. He was layed off from PD yesterday along with others.

It's sad that local print journalism's being destroyed at a time when it's needed most.

Saw that ... 10 years ago PD newspaper had 340 journalists ... now down to 32. WOW. Used to have a separate beat writer for every D1 program in the area ... now don't have any.

Amazing.

the sports culture has changed from celebrating the story and drama of the game to the big event and the championship. we rarely talk about the kid who gradually develops from average to very good but always want to show the star recruit. players have great dunks but don't know how to execute a fast break. the destination becomes far more important than the journey.

Back to the topic of this thread, Kent's BJ Duling and Kain Harris, leaving program

(04-03-2019 09:41 AM)luckyflash Wrote:  Back to the topic of this thread, Kent's BJ Duling and Kain Harris, leaving program

Harris was not a surprise. He never lived up to the promise of a good run he had at Tulane his freshman year. But he’ll be a senior next year, and only appeared in 8 games this year, and avg. 3 ppg and 2 rpg.

Dueling is a mystery. Seems to have great potential and has had some big moments. He always played with a lot of energy and had really superior athleticism, but he never seemed to find the flow of the game, and would miss defensive assignments a lot despite being a strong lane defender. He’d play 10-15 min per game then he wouldn’t play at all for a couple games. I hope he finds a place where his natural talent can flourish.

Antonio Cowart Jr entered the portal from Ohio today. That brings the announced players in the portal to 4. Ohio also had one player decommit. I believe That’s Between 6 and 8 scholarships to fill, depending on Dartis returning and the other commit not leaving.

(04-01-2019 01:01 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 12:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 07:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:57 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

Poorly researched. Nader, Marin and Stainbrook, all recent transfers to prominent conferences, had good careers post transfer.

well, of course he can't include those guys. they would have wrecked his whole "the MAC sucks" argument! what a hack this guy is.

Not picking a side here ... but story does not list ALL the players who have transferred since whenever the Lewis kid went to OSU nor does it list ALL the kids who made a bad mistake and ALL the kids who made a good one.

But if you are trying to say more MAC kids made good transfer choices than bad ones, based in part on a kid who went to DePaul ... DE-FRIGGIN-PAUL.... whew. I don't know what to tell ya.

Transfers, in I would guess 75-percent of the cases, are not good ... period.

Gotta read all the way down to the third sentence, Cleveland. You and the author may disagree whether Stainbrook playing a big role on a Sweet Sixteen team equals Lewis’s success but it’s fatuous to pretend that he didn’t make a quantum leap from WMU and sustain his level of play, or that I was hard pressed to come up with him or Marin (are you trying to say NIU >DePaul, whew, don’t know what to tell ya) or Nader who plays in the NBA (NIU > Oklahoma City Thunder?). Guy didn’t do his homework.

(04-03-2019 11:59 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 01:01 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(04-01-2019 12:24 PM)bobcat_backer Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 07:38 PM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-30-2019 03:57 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  A piece written in the Plain Dealer regarding MAC basketball transfers.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03...sfers.html

Poorly researched. Nader, Marin and Stainbrook, all recent transfers to prominent conferences, had good careers post transfer.

well, of course he can't include those guys. they would have wrecked his whole "the MAC sucks" argument! what a hack this guy is.

Not picking a side here ... but story does not list ALL the players who have transferred since whenever the Lewis kid went to OSU nor does it list ALL the kids who made a bad mistake and ALL the kids who made a good one.

But if you are trying to say more MAC kids made good transfer choices than bad ones, based in part on a kid who went to DePaul ... DE-FRIGGIN-PAUL.... whew. I don't know what to tell ya.

Transfers, in I would guess 75-percent of the cases, are not good ... period.

Gotta read all the way down to the third sentence, Cleveland. You and the author may disagree whether Stainbrook playing a big role on a Sweet Sixteen team equals Lewis’s success but it’s fatuous to pretend that he didn’t make a quantum leap from WMU and sustain his level of play, or that I was hard pressed to come up with him or Marin (are you trying to say NIU >DePaul, whew, don’t know what to tell ya) or Nader who plays in the NBA (NIU > Oklahoma City Thunder?). Guy didn’t do his homework.

There are exceptions to every rule ... Stainbrook, Nader stand out for sure. You are correct.

... But the baseline remains the same. Majority of guys who transfer up from the MAC do not fare very well. Majority of transfers do not fare well. Speaking for myself ... that's all I'm saying.