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(03-18-2019 12:06 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I also loved the intelligence of Cumberland's performance (as well as the handling of his play by Mick). I saw at least three offensive possessions where Cumberland stood off to the side and rested while the rest of the team went 4 on 4. Each time they used at least 20 seconds off the shot clock, and usually ended up with Broome pulling a mini-Cumberland and driving to the hole for a layup attempt.

This has been one of my favorite little wrinkles Mick and company have thrown at teams lately. Allows Cumberland to rest on a possession, but standing out by midcourt he pulls his man away and makes it 4-4. Anyone who plays pick up knows how much more open 4 on 4 is, making it harder to defend.

(03-18-2019 10:31 AM)Recluse1 Wrote:  It was timely, and it was dominant. Broome also gave a herculean effort to score and some much taller perimeter players. I think having a leader on the team is an advantage. Last years squad had more length, and athleticism, but no one really wanted to be top dog. The 3 we lost were individually very talented, but I don't know that any were the alpha.
With a lot of these kids, they're brawlers. They scrap and play like they're confident, but also like they know however they're going to win, it'll have to go through Cumberland.

It was up there though. They really couldn't stop him when he wanted to score, and unlike Houston's Davis, Cumberland can burn you with an all around floor game. Not just shooting.
There are other games I can think of... this one time,(don't recall the year) Fortson dropped 40 points and had like 20 boards against X.
Might have been the most dominant performance I've seen a UC player have.

I've said it many times, if Jacob Evans had Cumberland's alpha dog swagger and mentality, he would have been unstoppable. And he would be logging serious NBA minutes right now instead of being developmental.

Van Exel, 20 points 11 assists vs Virginia in Sweet 16

Didnt Damon Flint have a really good game against Georgia Tech in 1996?

I'd have to put Fortson's 40 against X in there since it was the shootout, but i'd give JC an edge because it was a Championship game. This on a smaller stage was a great one i recall watching at the old Shoe:

CINCINNATI,Ohio -- Steve Logan exploded for a career-high 41 points, single handedly outscoring Southern Miss as the University of Cincinnati men?s basketball team buried the Golden Eagles 89-37 Friday night at the Shoemaker Center. The win extends the Bearcats? record to 24-2 overall and 11-1 in Conference USA, one-half game ahead of Marquette for first place in the American Division. Southern Miss falls to 7-16, 2-11 in C-USA.

After tallying 18 first-half points to stake Cincinnati to a 48-25 halftime lead, Logan scored 23 more in the second half, helping UC to it?s fourth straight victory. The Bearcats cushioned their lead throughout the second half as Southern Miss scored just 12 second half points, including a span of nearly 12 minutes without a point.

The Golden Eagles opened the second half with a three-point basket by Elvin Mims to cut the deficit to 20. But that would be the closest they would come as the Bearcats turned up the defense and dominated the half. The two teams traded baskets over the first six minutes of action with Southern Miss scoring on a lay-up by Mario Myles with 14:13 remaining to bring the score to 54-33.

UC took over from there, scoring the game?s next 29 points over a span of nearly 10 minutes to bury the visitors. Logan did most of the damage during the run scoring 19 points, including four three-pointers, to give the Bearcats? their largest lead, 85-33 with just over four minutes remaining. Jason Maxiell was also strong during the run, scoring two baskets, including a thundering ally-op dunk on an assist from Logan.

?He was getting like he gets in practice,? Bearcat head coach Bob Huggins said of Logan. ?He gets like that where he makes everything. I see it in practice, he gets in zones. I think we guard pretty good in practice and he does that. I wasn?t surprised.?

The Bearcats got it done at both ends of the floor in the second half, shooting 48 percent from the field and limiting Southern Miss to just 17 percent on five of 29 shooting. After Logan?s 41, Immanuel McElroy and Donald Little scored 10 to lead the Bearcats. Logan also added nine assists and six rebounds, in addition to posting a new career-best with 12 field goals. Southern Miss was led by Mims, their only player in double figures with 11.

The first half was a steady mix of tough defense and good shooting for the Bearcats as they took a 17-point halftime lead. Jamaal Davis opened the game with a jumper, before Southern Miss scored the next five points to take their largest advantage at three. Brad Richardson started the spurt a three-pointer and followed that up with a lay-up, his only two field goals of the evening.

But Logan then found his range, hitting back-to-back three?s to put the Bearcats on top to stay. After a McElroy dunk and a tip-in bucket by USM?s Ben Lambert, UC went on a 9-0 scoring spurt over the next three minutes to jump to a nine-point lead with just over six minutes gone. McElroy keyed the run, scoring four of his 10 points during the spurt.

With 12 minutes remaining in the half, the Golden Eagles had the deficit to 10 points, but they would not net another basket for nearly four minutes, as UC scored the game?s next nine points to cushion their lead to 16. This run was keyed by who tallied four of his eight points over the span.

Cincinnati, who held the Golden Eagles to just 29 percent shooting in the first half, took their largest advantage, 23 with just over a minute remaining before the break. A three-pointer by Logan was followed by a lay-up by Mims, cutting USM?s deficit back to 21. McElroy scored the final-bucket of the half on a lay-up off an assist from Logan to extend UC back to a 23-point advantage.

The Bearcats will look for their fifth consecutive win on Tuesday, Feb. 19 when they travel to DePaul. Game time in Chicago is set for 7:30 p.m. CST.

(03-18-2019 12:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Kenyon Martin vs. DePaul was the most dominant performance I've ever seen in a college game, but Jarron Cumberland's performance yesterday is the biggest performance in a tournament setting I can remember in my lifetime. I wasn't around for the Big O days, but I doubt anyone will ever compare to him anyway.

KMart's performance that night was unbelievable, he had Dick Vitale going off in his pants over it.

(03-18-2019 12:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Kenyon Martin vs. DePaul was the most dominant performance I've ever seen in a college game, but Jarron Cumberland's performance yesterday is the biggest performance in a tournament setting I can remember in my lifetime. I wasn't around for the Big O days, but I doubt anyone will ever compare to him anyway.

I agree on both counts.

Now, we just need six more consecutive games like that from Cumberland and we can hang our third national championship banner.

(03-18-2019 02:19 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 12:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Kenyon Martin vs. DePaul was the most dominant performance I've ever seen in a college game, but Jarron Cumberland's performance yesterday is the biggest performance in a tournament setting I can remember in my lifetime. I wasn't around for the Big O days, but I doubt anyone will ever compare to him anyway.

KMart's performance that night was unbelievable, he had Dick Vitale going off in his pants over it.

I was just thinking about that game and how it ended with Dermar almost passing up what ultimately was the game-winning shot because he wasn't sure if Kenyon had touched the ball yet in that possession. And that mattered a bunch as Huggs threatened to bench anyone who did that in that game for life iirc.

What reminded me of it was just the other day in the (semifinal?) Moore missed a wide open 3 from the baseline and then got another opportunity a few seconds later to take another wide open 3 from the exact same spot but decided to pass instead. I was wondering if Mick had said the same thing to this team, substituting JC for Kenyon of course. There was no other logical reason for him to pass up that shot.

(03-18-2019 03:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 02:19 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 12:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Kenyon Martin vs. DePaul was the most dominant performance I've ever seen in a college game, but Jarron Cumberland's performance yesterday is the biggest performance in a tournament setting I can remember in my lifetime. I wasn't around for the Big O days, but I doubt anyone will ever compare to him anyway.

KMart's performance that night was unbelievable, he had Dick Vitale going off in his pants over it.

I was just thinking about that game and how it ended with Dermar almost passing up what ultimately was the game-winning shot because he wasn't sure if Kenyon had touched the ball yet in that possession. And that mattered a bunch as Huggs threatened to bench anyone who did that in that game for life iirc.

What reminded me of it was just the other day in the (semifinal?) Moore missed a wide open 3 from the baseline and then got another opportunity a few seconds later to take another wide open 3 from the exact same spot but decided to pass instead. I was wondering if Mick had said the same thing to this team, substituting JC for Kenyon of course. There was no other logical reason for him to pass up that shot.

I think it's a matter of Moore's tentativeness - not wanting to screw up. I've seen him hesitate with indecision all year long.

I had no problem with his missed three ... it was a good open look. And I had no problem with him trying again when he was wide open. The kid needs to build some confidence in himself to turn into the shooter he could be.

(03-18-2019 12:28 PM)jarr Wrote:  Van Exel, 20 points 11 assists vs Virginia in Sweet 16

Didnt Damon Flint have a really good game against Georgia Tech in 1996?

Yes, he completely outplayed Starbury. I was at that one, and it was fun to watch.

(03-18-2019 11:59 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  The stage wasn't as big but:

"In 1994, Cincinnati played in Wyoming. LaZelle Durden popped off 45 points, and stepped to the free throw line to shoot three shots with no time on the clock and UC trailing 80-78.

Durden shushed the crowd, and the rest is history."

UC had no lead the entire game, it was all Wyoming from tip to the final whistle. That is a great UC moment. As far as the OP, I'd have to think on it a bit more, but Danny's 40 on X might be it. Mark makes a great point about Stokes' 39 against UCLA, they had no answer for him, but the L has to disqualify it.

(03-18-2019 03:26 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 03:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 02:19 PM)chatcat Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 12:05 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Kenyon Martin vs. DePaul was the most dominant performance I've ever seen in a college game, but Jarron Cumberland's performance yesterday is the biggest performance in a tournament setting I can remember in my lifetime. I wasn't around for the Big O days, but I doubt anyone will ever compare to him anyway.

KMart's performance that night was unbelievable, he had Dick Vitale going off in his pants over it.

I was just thinking about that game and how it ended with Dermar almost passing up what ultimately was the game-winning shot because he wasn't sure if Kenyon had touched the ball yet in that possession. And that mattered a bunch as Huggs threatened to bench anyone who did that in that game for life iirc.

What reminded me of it was just the other day in the (semifinal?) Moore missed a wide open 3 from the baseline and then got another opportunity a few seconds later to take another wide open 3 from the exact same spot but decided to pass instead. I was wondering if Mick had said the same thing to this team, substituting JC for Kenyon of course. There was no other logical reason for him to pass up that shot.

I think it's a matter of Moore's tentativeness - not wanting to screw up. I've seen him hesitate with indecision all year long.

I had no problem with his missed three ... it was a good open look. And I had no problem with him trying again when he was wide open. The kid needs to build some confidence in himself to turn into the shooter he could be.

Had no problem pulling back on that second wide open trey. Clock was our friend. That said, he's got to get more comfortable taking shots and going to the rim. He had a wide open path to the rim. At 6'5" he should easily have been able to dunk it or at least draw a foul.

If Trevor Moore is the shooter Cronin tells us he is, then I'm telling him he needs to be more concerned with being benched for NOT shooting wide open 3's. In that situation, passing up on the open 3 wasn't the worst thing in the world, but he has passed up on open looks all year. He needs a confidence boost, and I hope he finds it soon.

Caupain's 37, 10, and 5 in the 4 OT/Jalen Adams Miracle UConn game is a strong contender for one of the best of the Cronin era at least.

(03-18-2019 03:49 PM)Teakwood Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 11:59 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  The stage wasn't as big but:

"In 1994, Cincinnati played in Wyoming. LaZelle Durden popped off 45 points, and stepped to the free throw line to shoot three shots with no time on the clock and UC trailing 80-78.

Durden shushed the crowd, and the rest is history."

UC had no lead the entire game, it was all Wyoming from tip to the final whistle. That is a great UC moment. As far as the OP, I'd have to think on it a bit more, but Danny's 40 on X might be it. Mark makes a great point about Stokes' 39 against UCLA, they had no answer for him, but the L has to disqualify it.

Th only reason we played that game was it was part of the deal to get the FB team into the Humanitarian Bowl ending the longest bowl drought in the country. Durden was money!

(03-18-2019 05:42 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 03:49 PM)Teakwood Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 11:59 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  The stage wasn't as big but:

"In 1994, Cincinnati played in Wyoming. LaZelle Durden popped off 45 points, and stepped to the free throw line to shoot three shots with no time on the clock and UC trailing 80-78.

Durden shushed the crowd, and the rest is history."

UC had no lead the entire game, it was all Wyoming from tip to the final whistle. That is a great UC moment. As far as the OP, I'd have to think on it a bit more, but Danny's 40 on X might be it. Mark makes a great point about Stokes' 39 against UCLA, they had no answer for him, but the L has to disqualify it.

Th only reason we played that game was it was part of the deal to get the FB team into the Humanitarian Bowl ending the longest bowl drought in the country. Durden was money!

Boise is the team we had to play to get into Humanitarian bowl. The Wyoming game predates that by a few years.

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(03-18-2019 07:15 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 05:42 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 03:49 PM)Teakwood Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 11:59 AM)ucbrownsfan Wrote:  The stage wasn't as big but:

"In 1994, Cincinnati played in Wyoming. LaZelle Durden popped off 45 points, and stepped to the free throw line to shoot three shots with no time on the clock and UC trailing 80-78.

Durden shushed the crowd, and the rest is history."

UC had no lead the entire game, it was all Wyoming from tip to the final whistle. That is a great UC moment. As far as the OP, I'd have to think on it a bit more, but Danny's 40 on X might be it. Mark makes a great point about Stokes' 39 against UCLA, they had no answer for him, but the L has to disqualify it.

Th only reason we played that game was it was part of the deal to get the FB team into the Humanitarian Bowl ending the longest bowl drought in the country. Durden was money!

Boise is the team we had to play to get into Humanitarian bowl. The Wyoming game predates that by a few years.

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I stand corrected. Wyoming was then coached by Toby Wright the former Miami coach. When they came to UC the next year the score was 101 to 51.

As impressive as the JC performance was the stats were a typical Oscar game.

(03-18-2019 08:30 PM)doss2 Wrote:  As impressive as the JC performance was the stats were a typical Oscar game.

UC fan here from out of town. Speaking of Oscar, does he still attend games or they just don't show him on TV? What is he up to nowadays? He used to attend some NBA games and the All Star game.

(03-18-2019 03:42 PM)Teakwood Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 12:28 PM)jarr Wrote:  Van Exel, 20 points 11 assists vs Virginia in Sweet 16

Didnt Damon Flint have a really good game against Georgia Tech in 1996?

Yes, he completely outplayed Starbury. I was at that one, and it was fun to watch.

Stephen Marbury, not Starbury.

(03-18-2019 09:19 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 03:42 PM)Teakwood Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 12:28 PM)jarr Wrote:  Van Exel, 20 points 11 assists vs Virginia in Sweet 16

Didnt Damon Flint have a really good game against Georgia Tech in 1996?

Yes, he completely outplayed Starbury. I was at that one, and it was fun to watch.

Stephen Marbury, not Starbury.

Starbury would be a great name for a star basketball player though. He wouldn't even need a second name, just Starbury...