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Baby Bust (Demographics) and MAC Schools
This article isn't about MAC schools but MAC schools draw heavily from their home states and adjacent states.

Bottom line is that the U.S. is having a long term fertility crisis nationally and especially certain states, including IL and MI.

This study goes back to 2000 which is, bingo, the cohort of babies which are now college freshmen.

The bottom line for universities is that much of their costs are fixed and they need steady, or even increasing enrollment, to pay the bills.

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03-18-2019 06:59 AM
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How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.
03-18-2019 11:18 AM
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(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.

Lower population translates into lower enrollment numbers. Lower enrollment numbers lead to the same fixed costs being divided between fewer people therefore raising individual costs.

MAC athletic programs are heavily subsidized from student fees. As enrollments decline, MAC schools will be forced to slash athletic budgets.
03-18-2019 11:41 AM
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(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.

And less college students for our universities.

You are assuming that each additional person consumes more than he (or she) produces.
03-18-2019 11:42 AM
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(03-18-2019 11:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.

And less college students for our universities.

You are assuming that each additional person consumes more than he (or she) produces.

Yes, lets also not forget all the college graduates that are fleeing the Midwest for the southern and west coast states.
03-18-2019 11:58 AM
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(03-18-2019 11:58 AM)kreed5120 Wrote:  
(03-18-2019 11:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.

And less college students for our universities.

You are assuming that each additional person consumes more than he (or she) produces.

Yes, lets also not forget all the college graduates that are fleeing the Midwest for the southern and west coast states.

That is true. An Amazon is free to expand to any city they want. They are not bound by the old rules of industrial manufacturing.

As the work force of these companies is largely white collar (or at least the employees we are reading about) the employer is perfectly free to choose a very desirable (how ever defined) location to location new work sites.
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(03-18-2019 11:42 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.

And less college students for our universities.

You are assuming that each additional person consumes more than he (or she) produces.

Might add the ones leaving are the young producers while those staying are typically the older population who enjoying their retirement don't directly add production (they consume and their consumption adds to commerce and its effects such as employment, profits, etc.).

One could argue that the older population does produce a 'wealth transfer effect' to their states as they consume so much medical care usually paid by Medicare that they bring back to the state a lot of dollars from Washington to pay for their care.

E.g., a retired person on Medicare might pay say 5K in federal income taxes and receive 10K in Medicare during a year.
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Hence why many schools like Miami are putting a huge international student focus, for their enrollment, diversity numbers, and high tuition dollars.
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(03-18-2019 02:04 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  Hence why many schools like Miami are putting a huge international student focus, for their enrollment, diversity numbers, and high tuition dollars.

Yep. Large international enrollment meets a lot of policy and financial goals.

I have a good friend who came to the U.S. to study as a graduate student in a professional field.
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This article touches on a lot of points of my small hometown in eastern Ohio. At one point our little burg had over 15,000 people, now its down to 4,000. The community is mostly made up of elderly citizens and the non-producers. Unless something drastically changes within 20 years the town will have more than 2,000 people.

Outside of Greater Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland/Akron the rest of the state is pretty barren.
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(03-18-2019 03:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  This article touches on a lot of points of my small hometown in eastern Ohio. At one point our little burg had over 15,000 people, now its down to 4,000. The community is mostly made up of elderly citizens and the non-producers. Unless something drastically changes within 20 years the town will have more than 2,000 people.

Outside of Greater Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland/Akron the rest of the state is pretty barren.

When Cleveland/Akron is used as examples of a vibrant economy, your state has problems. Not that its only in Ohio, you could describe Upstate New York through much of the midwest like that aside from a couple of metros that have reinvented themselves (e.g. Pittsburgh) and/or have the benefit of state government capitals for stable employment (e.g. Columbus).
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(03-18-2019 11:18 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Less people, less resources consumed, higher standing of living for those who remain.


You and Thomas Malthus are both wrong.
03-19-2019 12:22 PM
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Quote:How is low fertility rates a crisis?

Those damned college kids are using condoms! They're for sailors, dammit!

We need to bring Jerry Springer back on the air. He helps promote making babies, by including drama into the mix!
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Sort of OT (maybe not) just saw that Akron is buying out 47% of their faculty.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktake...ts-u-akron
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