L.S.U. wins the SEC regular season title and is seeded 3rd.
Auburn wins the SEC tournament and is seeded 5th.
Kentucky wins neither and is seeded 2nd.

While I have no problem with the Cats being seeded 2nd, and don't really have a problem with L.S.U.'s or Auburn's seeding, are there any basketball first conferences where this kind of thing happens?

L.S.U. and Auburn are not perceived as basketball schools. So the committee seeds them lower than the only basketball first school we have. Tennessee gets a #2 seed as well and also won neither the regular season nor the conference tournament.

Again no problem with the Vols seed but again like Rodney Dangerfield "We don't get no respect around here."

We got 7 in as did the ACC. But the ACC got 3 #1 seeds and a #3 seed.

The Big 10 has to feel a little hinky too. They got in 8 schools but 3 of them are in one half bracket where their top seed Michigan State resides. Is that really fair?

Thoughts?

I know college basketball and soccer have different cultures, but you tend to find some decent ideas on how to construct competition in the soccer world.

For example, the seeding system for UEFA Champions League is based on a draw.

Basically, you take all the teams and separate them into 4 pots. Each pot is based on recent performance. The first round of UCL is group play so this doesn't really apply, but you draw one team from each pot in order to determine a group. Then you go on down the line until everyone has been picked.

They could do something similar for the NCAA Tournament. Rather than trying to seed everyone according to a host of criteria and pretending they are being totally unbiased in the process, they could just throw everyone into a predetermined number of pots. Maybe 8 pots?

-All teams considered as #1 and #2 seeds could be Pot 1.
-All teams considered as #3 and #4 seeds could be Pot 2.
-All teams considered as #5 and #6 seeds could be Pot 3.
-All teams considered as #7 and #8 seeds could be Pot 4.
-All teams considered as #9 and #10 seeds could be Pot 5.
-All teams considered as #11 and #12 seeds could be Pot 6.
-All teams considered as #13 and #14 seeds could be Pot 7.
-All teams considered as #15 and #16 seeds could be Pot 8.

Basically you go down the line and draw from Pot 1 and Pot 8 to create the first set of match-ups. So on and so forth...

(03-17-2019 09:32 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I know college basketball and soccer have different cultures, but you tend to find some decent ideas on how to construct competition in the soccer world.

For example, the seeding system for UEFA Champions League is based on a draw.

Basically, you take all the teams and separate them into 4 pots. Each pot is based on recent performance. The first round of UCL is group play so this doesn't really apply, but you draw one team from each pot in order to determine a group. Then you go on down the line until everyone has been picked.

They could do something similar for the NCAA Tournament. Rather than trying to seed everyone according to a host of criteria and pretending they are being totally unbiased in the process, they could just throw everyone into a predetermined number of pots. Maybe 8 pots?

-All teams considered as #1 and #2 seeds could be Pot 1.
-All teams considered as #3 and #4 seeds could be Pot 2.
-All teams considered as #5 and #6 seeds could be Pot 3.
-All teams considered as #7 and #8 seeds could be Pot 4.
-All teams considered as #9 and #10 seeds could be Pot 5.
-All teams considered as #11 and #12 seeds could be Pot 6.
-All teams considered as #13 and #14 seeds could be Pot 7.
-All teams considered as #15 and #16 seeds could be Pot 8.

Basically you go down the line and draw from Pot 1 and Pot 8 to create the first set of match-ups. So on and so forth...

I like how the soccer world draws for major tournaments. Watching the World Cup draw can be surprisingly exciting. Doing a draw like this could and does create groups of death. While there are tougher groupings in March Madness, I do think the committee finagles the rankings to alleviate group of death scenarios and other sources of tension.