(03-16-2019 10:07 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  trump isn't my cup of tea, either. in 2016, we had the most experienced, deep, knowledgeable, and professional primary field in several generations, and we picked that freaking guy.
stinkfist coached me through the disappointment, though. SF was a trump guy from the moment on the escalator. whatever else trump is doing, he's right on deregulation, he's right on judges, he's right on the economy, he's brutally right on immigration, and he even has me rethinking my philosophy on trade.
and he's pissing off all the right people.

Trump isn't my cup of tea either. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And democrats are my enemy, and Trump doesn't mind being their enemy, unlike the milquetoast wusses that have passed for republican leaders in the past few years--Boehner, Ryan (although in fairness, he didn't want the job), McConnell.

notorious, classic and fatal mistake. the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, certainly not in the long run. your thinking blows up as soon as the status quo changes, and then you've got an even bigger fight on your hands.

here is what DJT has taught the republican party; we don't have to run in terror every time someone calls us a racist. we don't have to cower in fear every time a liberal labels a perfectly rational political position as an artifact of "the war on women". I don't especially like the guy, but he's giving us back the ability to have rational, reasonable conversations about topics that liberalism had declared off-limits as a matter of national and cultural doctrine.

the electorate has been sold, and summarily screwed, over the notion of "change" for decades; certainly since The Clenis. what DJT is bringing us is actual, measurable, structural change.

couldn't have framed it any better....

however, Owl's point is valid in the sense he's seeing how the light glows now...

it's why DJT will gain historical notoriety for changing the game...

in my mind, it was a given there wasn't another soul willing to fight for what is right....

does he make mistakes....yes

does he stick his foot in his mouth....yes

has he honed his chops over time....yes

has he stuck to his goons.....YES

#aboutfkntimewehadone

(03-16-2019 10:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 10:07 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  trump isn't my cup of tea, either. in 2016, we had the most experienced, deep, knowledgeable, and professional primary field in several generations, and we picked that freaking guy.
stinkfist coached me through the disappointment, though. SF was a trump guy from the moment on the escalator. whatever else trump is doing, he's right on deregulation, he's right on judges, he's right on the economy, he's brutally right on immigration, and he even has me rethinking my philosophy on trade.
and he's pissing off all the right people.

Trump isn't my cup of tea either. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And democrats are my enemy, and Trump doesn't mind being their enemy, unlike the milquetoast wusses that have passed for republican leaders in the past few years--Boehner, Ryan (although in fairness, he didn't want the job), McConnell.

notorious, classic and fatal mistake. the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, certainly not in the long run. your thinking blows up as soon as the status quo changes, and then you've got an even bigger fight on your hands.

here is what DJT has taught the republican party; we don't have to run in terror every time someone calls us a racist. we don't have to cower in fear every time a liberal labels a perfectly rational political position as an artifact of "the war on women". I don't especially like the guy, but he's giving us back the ability to have rational, reasonable conversations about topics that liberalism had declared off-limits as a matter of national and cultural doctrine.

the electorate has been sold, and summarily screwed, over the notion of "change" for decades; certainly since The Clenis. what DJT is bringing us is actual, measurable, structural change.

couldn't have framed it any better....

however, Owl's point is valid in the sense he's seeing how the light glows now...

it's why DJT will gain historical notoriety for changing the game...

in my mind, it was a given there wasn't another soul willing to fight for what is right....

owl's point isn't valid because he really doesn't have a point. he has a battle; he wants to war within the republican party because we are the only party that will even consider having them.

Libertarians/libertarians actually frustrate me more than pure liberals. at least those guys believe in something.

(03-16-2019 11:20 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 10:27 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 10:07 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  trump isn't my cup of tea, either. in 2016, we had the most experienced, deep, knowledgeable, and professional primary field in several generations, and we picked that freaking guy.
stinkfist coached me through the disappointment, though. SF was a trump guy from the moment on the escalator. whatever else trump is doing, he's right on deregulation, he's right on judges, he's right on the economy, he's brutally right on immigration, and he even has me rethinking my philosophy on trade.
and he's pissing off all the right people.

Trump isn't my cup of tea either. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And democrats are my enemy, and Trump doesn't mind being their enemy, unlike the milquetoast wusses that have passed for republican leaders in the past few years--Boehner, Ryan (although in fairness, he didn't want the job), McConnell.

notorious, classic and fatal mistake. the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, certainly not in the long run. your thinking blows up as soon as the status quo changes, and then you've got an even bigger fight on your hands.

here is what DJT has taught the republican party; we don't have to run in terror every time someone calls us a racist. we don't have to cower in fear every time a liberal labels a perfectly rational political position as an artifact of "the war on women". I don't especially like the guy, but he's giving us back the ability to have rational, reasonable conversations about topics that liberalism had declared off-limits as a matter of national and cultural doctrine.

the electorate has been sold, and summarily screwed, over the notion of "change" for decades; certainly since The Clenis. what DJT is bringing us is actual, measurable, structural change.

couldn't have framed it any better....

however, Owl's point is valid in the sense he's seeing how the light glows now...

it's why DJT will gain historical notoriety for changing the game...

in my mind, it was a given there wasn't another soul willing to fight for what is right....

owl's point isn't valid because he really doesn't have a point. he has a battle; he wants to war within the republican party because we are the only party that will even consider having them.

Libertarians/libertarians actually frustrate me more than pure liberals. at least those guys believe in something.

that's a great point...it's also one he's repetitively made....

#henceDJT being the ultimate game changing destroyer within normalized politics...

(03-16-2019 10:07 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  trump isn't my cup of tea, either. in 2016, we had the most experienced, deep, knowledgeable, and professional primary field in several generations, and we picked that freaking guy.
stinkfist coached me through the disappointment, though. SF was a trump guy from the moment on the escalator. whatever else trump is doing, he's right on deregulation, he's right on judges, he's right on the economy, he's brutally right on immigration, and he even has me rethinking my philosophy on trade.
and he's pissing off all the right people.

Trump isn't my cup of tea either. But the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And democrats are my enemy, and Trump doesn't mind being their enemy, unlike the milquetoast wusses that have passed for republican leaders in the past few years--Boehner, Ryan (although in fairness, he didn't want the job), McConnell.

notorious, classic and fatal mistake. the enemy of your enemy is not your friend, certainly not in the long run. your thinking blows up as soon as the status quo changes, and then you've got an even bigger fight on your hands.
here is what DJT has taught the republican party; we don't have to run in terror every time someone calls us a racist. we don't have to cower in fear every time a liberal labels a perfectly rational political position as an artifact of "the war on women". I don't especially like the guy, but he's giving us back the ability to have rational, reasonable conversations about topics that liberalism had declared off-limits as a matter of national and cultural doctrine.
the electorate has been sold, and summarily screwed, over the notion of "change" for decades; certainly since The Clenis. what DJT is bringing us is actual, measurable, structural change.

Any enemy of my enemy is my friend as long as my enemy is as bad as the current crop of democrats. Maybe not long run, as you say, but I'm not talking long run. I'm talking short run--at least, I hope--until either the democrats' flirtation with socialism is gone, or the democrats themselves are gone.

As for the rest of your post, I agree. I may not like Trump, but he is the first republican willing to fight rather than cower since Reagan.

(03-16-2019 09:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 08:00 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 07:14 PM)EagleX Wrote:  yeah, 'cause republicans (and democrats, for that matter) are so frivolous and easy to dismiss as mental midgets. ignorant bastards.

See you and raise.

trump isn't my cup of tea, either. in 2016, we had the most experienced, deep, knowledgeable, and professional primary field in several generations, and we picked that freaking guy.

stinkfist coached me through the disappointment, though. SF was a trump guy from the moment on the escalator. whatever else trump is doing, he's right on deregulation, he's right on judges, he's right on the economy, he's brutally right on immigration, and he even has me rethinking my philosophy on trade.

and he's pissing off all the right people.

what more could one want in a 3rd party centrist that had to make a party choice...I personally wish he would've run as a donk....

like myself and him, we don't give two fks about a silly little ®, (d), or (i) tag.....people like us don't give a shite...that's why he threatened the dipshite RNC faction with that (I)....he was willing to fk those little biatches up the arse....

all we care about is doing what is reasonably plausible within a control mechanism that benefits the highest percentage of flesh...

I simply don't know how you fk both sides of the aisle any better than what he's currently attempting to achieve with this wake-up call....

ol' boy had everything to lose and nothing to gain other than acquiring a philanthropic legacy to kick the career politicians in the arse...it was pure genius...I couldn't have drawn it up any better...

he's the motherfk'r I've wanted sitting in the oval my entire life....Reagan was close, but too faux bourgeois.....

IMO, billy bob clinton would be the most accurate comparable in my lifetime...

as always, you have my number and ears...

Man, I stepped in that voting booth certain I was only going to participate in my state and locals. I fully intended to just not cast a ballot for POTUS, but if I recall correctly that wasn't an option and I said screw it, I aint voting for any of those other morons who I already knew represented only the status quo, I'll vote for this other moron who has no chance of winning.