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Nobody is arguing the basic facts of the story, regardless whether you like my source or not.
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I always check sources before I choose to read an article. If they have extreme bias whether left or right, I simply ignore the story. Translated, was not worth my time to read from that source. Everyone including you and I is welcome to choose where they get their information from. I've learned the source of your news can color your thinking.

I enjoy your POV on the football forum. However, you seem rabid about your politics, much like my baby girl who is an avowed arch leftist. BTW, she is never wrong either. You think I'm a crazy lefty and she thinks I'm a crazy righty. Go figure.
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I'm a socialist. I read a lot of really great socialist writers who have a lot of bias toward the political left. What matters isn't whether or not the publication has an ideological perspective (they all do), it's whether or not the publication has a track record of being dishonest. There's nothing neutral about the center of the US political spectrum. It has an ideology too.

The problem with this post is that it seems like you think Democratic donors are worse rule-breakers than GOP donors. (You never really make a claim, so I'd be interested to hear what your actual takeaway from the article is.) Anyway, buddy wait 'til you hear about the NRA lol. This whole class of people, political donors, whether Democrat or Republican, routinely pay for privileges in one form or another. The world hands everything to them as kids and then they think they earned it. I don't question the facts of the article, but you immediately turning it into points for your teams shows me that you think about politics like it's team sports. This stuff isn't a game. People's actual lives are at stake. If you really (*really*) think GOP policies are best to address the massive issues we face as a country, then by all means make that argument. But finding some Dem donors behaving badly (as they all do, all the time) and then posting it up to score a couple points? Come on man.
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(03-12-2019 05:13 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrat...ABkrrKN7AQ

Both sides have dirtbags who participated in this scam: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political...d7661ed2fb

Your broadbrush thread title is misguided and inaccurate.
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(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-12-2019 05:13 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrat...ABkrrKN7AQ

Both sides have dirtbags who participated in this scam: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political...d7661ed2fb

Your broadbrush thread title is misguided and inaccurate.

In hindsight it looks like I should have questioned the facts of the article.
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No party holds the high ground on morality or 'rule following'. Only ideologues believe otherwise.
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(03-13-2019 08:51 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  No party holds the high ground on morality or 'rule following'. Only ideologues believe otherwise.

I gotta think the true breakdown of party alliance is something along the lines of:
10% - Far right Republicans who think all Democrats are evil.
10% - Far left Democrats who think all Republicans are evil.

The remaining 80% is the exhausted-middle who just want things done in a manner that's beneficial to all of us without a care of which side comes up with the idea.
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(03-13-2019 09:19 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:51 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  No party holds the high ground on morality or 'rule following'. Only ideologues believe otherwise.

I gotta think the true breakdown of party alliance is something along the lines of:
10% - Far right Republicans who think all Democrats are evil.
10% - Far left Democrats who think all Republicans are evil.

The remaining 80% is the exhausted-middle who just want things done in a manner that's beneficial to all of us without a care of which side comes up with the idea.

But we can't not acknowledge the moral differences between the parties in the interest of making peace. Republicans by and large believe that climate change is either not real or not caused by humans. Democrats don't do enough to address it, but at least they agree it's real and a problem. We can't afford to sit in the middle of that and say "Well some people say humans are causing warming, some say we're not. They both probably have valid points." This is a problem because it rules out the type of bold aggressive action the UN says is necessary to avoid or at least minimize climate disaster. I'm not saying anyone here is doing that, but I think sometimes people equate the far left and the far right in the US as similarly bad. And sometimes people stop there and fail to actually examine the policies and how they correspond with the issues.
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(03-13-2019 08:50 AM)HaymondAtThe4 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-12-2019 05:13 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrat...ABkrrKN7AQ

Both sides have dirtbags who participated in this scam: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political...d7661ed2fb

Your broadbrush thread title is misguided and inaccurate.

In hindsight it looks like I should have questioned the facts of the article.

If history is an indication Philly will ignore this and continue calling people a$$holes and morons.
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(03-13-2019 09:40 AM)HaymondAtThe4 Wrote:  But we can't not acknowledge the moral differences between the parties in the interest of making peace.

A "socialist" lecturing on the morality of political parties?

Coerced activity has no moral component.

The idea/concept is an oxymoron.

Quote:This is a problem because it rules out the type of bold aggressive action the UN says is necessary to avoid or at least minimize climate disaster.

Here's (at least part of) a plan of action.

You on board?



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Dear ess,
The gentleman in the video glosses over so many things that are bad about nuclear power to make his point that it is almost laughable.
Just take what to do with nuclear waste. It isn't as simple as storing it in silos. It can remain dangerous for hundreds of years. Most, if not all nuclear waste is stored in deep underground caves because it is so dangerous. On top of that, no one has figured out what to do with it.
I am definitly not on board.
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(03-13-2019 04:42 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear ess,
The gentleman in the video glosses over so many things that are bad about nuclear power to make his point that it is almost laughable.
Just take what to do with nuclear waste. It isn't as simple as storing it in silos. It can remain dangerous for hundreds of years. Most, if not all nuclear waste is stored in deep underground caves because it is so dangerous. On top of that, no one has figured out what to do with it.
I am definitly not on board.

Maybe you're right.

Maybe not.

More on the subject

Dude started out "anti-nuclear", FWIW.
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(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-12-2019 05:13 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrat...ABkrrKN7AQ

Both sides have dirtbags who participated in this scam: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political...d7661ed2fb

Your broadbrush thread title is misguided and inaccurate.

99% of them were major Dem contributors and donors. Nice attempt at an evasion, dummy.
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(03-13-2019 09:19 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 09:40 AM)HaymondAtThe4 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 09:19 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:51 AM)broncofan1 Wrote:  No party holds the high ground on morality or 'rule following'. Only ideologues believe otherwise.

I gotta think the true breakdown of party alliance is something along the lines of:
10% - Far right Republicans who think all Democrats are evil.
10% - Far left Democrats who think all Republicans are evil.

The remaining 80% is the exhausted-middle who just want things done in a manner that's beneficial to all of us without a care of which side comes up with the idea.

But we can't not acknowledge the moral differences between the parties in the interest of making peace. Republicans by and large believe that climate change is either not real or not caused by humans. Democrats don't do enough to address it, but at least they agree it's real and a problem. We can't afford to sit in the middle of that and say "Well some people say humans are causing warming, some say we're not. They both probably have valid points." This is a problem because it rules out the type of bold aggressive action the UN says is necessary to avoid or at least minimize climate disaster. I'm not saying anyone here is doing that, but I think sometimes people equate the far left and the far right in the US as similarly bad. And sometimes people stop there and fail to actually examine the policies and how they correspond with the issues.


Democrats by and large are intellectually challenged. Take your point on global warming, there is NO CONSENSUS among scientists that global climate change is caused largely by mankind. None. The only scientists who say it is are those who have skin in the game, ie those who receive funding from organizations for promoting that theory. It is POLITICS and not science that is driving that theory, nothing more.

I recognize the limitations within your side-most of you have only a passing acquaintance with science and mathematics, you're easily duped when it comes to things like that. I'm not one to proclaim my own education credentials to support my arguments, but I have a BS, MS and PhD in electrical engineering. My IQ as measured by Stanford-Binet scale has been placed at anywhere from 150-165 at various times that I took that test. I belonged to MENSA for a few years until I got tired of paying dues, that I couldn't even get a tax write-off for. In a nutshell, I've forgotten more about science and mathematics than most of you ever knew in the first place. So I'm not going to quibble about whether mankind is the major factor in global climate change with a bunch of self-important, deluded, scientifically challenged, mongoloid Leftists who couldn't balance a chemical equation or follow a mathematical proof if their lives depended on it. You're out of your depth, face it.

As I've noted, the folks in my own family who are the biggest leftists are the least educated and the most easily impressed by the demagogues on the Progressive side. As Hillary Clinton once noted, 'Most Democrats are not very smart.'. I couldn't have said it better myself. You can all eat my crusty shorts, I salute you with my middle finger!

In case you didn't grasp that last comment I'll leave a pic for you:

[Image: bum-giving-the-finger-784479.jpg]

That’s true, you’re really impressive. But you still throw like a girl.03-lmfao
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That’s true, you’re really impressive. But you still throw like a girl.03-lmfao




And you're still a jerk.
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(03-13-2019 11:05 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  That’s true, you’re really impressive. But you still throw like a girl.03-lmfao




And you're still a jerk.

So
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(03-13-2019 09:04 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:42 AM)BroncoEngineer05 Wrote:  
(03-12-2019 05:13 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  https://freebeacon.com/politics/democrat...ABkrrKN7AQ

Both sides have dirtbags who participated in this scam: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political...d7661ed2fb

Your broadbrush thread title is misguided and inaccurate.

99% of them were major Dem contributors and donors. Nice attempt at an evasion, dummy.

Not sure how you came up with that "99% of them were major Dem contributors" but whatever, if you want to sell your opinion as fact you go right ahead, I'm not here to try and change your mind, just wanted to point out that both sides participated in this shady behavior.

I haven't been on this forum long but I've been here long enough to see you insult people multiple times if they disagree with you, especially on politics. Not sure if maybe you're just a little guy who's trying to be tough behind a keyboard. Maybe you're unhappily married and this is where you can take that anger out on people. Maybe you've got a tiny dick and this is how you compensate for that.

I don't know what your deal is and I don't really care, your insults and name calling make you appear to be a petulant child who's uncapable of a civil discussion and clearly not worth anyone's time or effort.
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Quote:I recognize the limitations within your side-most of you have only a passing acquaintance with science and mathematics, you're easily duped when it comes to things like that. I'm not one to proclaim my own education credentials to support my arguments, but I have a BS, MS and PhD in electrical engineering. My IQ as measured by Stanford-Binet scale has been placed at anywhere from 150-165 at various times that I took that test. I belonged to MENSA for a few years until I got tired of paying dues, that I couldn't even get a tax write-off for. In a nutshell, I've forgotten more about science and mathematics than most of you ever knew in the first place. So I'm not going to quibble about whether mankind is the major factor in global climate change with a bunch of self-important, deluded, scientifically challenged, mongoloid Leftists who couldn't balance a chemical equation or follow a mathematical proof if their lives depended on it. You're out of your depth, face it.

Funniest thing I've come across in a while. Thank you for this.
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