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(03-13-2019 09:17 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

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(03-10-2019 11:56 AM)UCinNKY Wrote:  Get Tre scott out of the game. A 3 point shot in transition that literally was no where close? Put in Fredericks. He is a stiff right now.

Scott and Fredericks have both taken too many quick three's; kick outs late in the shot clock are the only ones they should take. Hope they would work more hitting the offensive board similar to what Erik Martin and Terry Nelson did for us years ago. Doubt if Erik or Terry took more than a couple threes in their careers.

They took a combined grand total of 5 over 2 years. Any guesses as to how many they made?

That sounds right. Martin was smart on knowing where he was effective. Believe he shot over 60% from field his senior year. I know the three point line was a foot shorter then but I looked even a player remembered more for his defense Tarrance Gibson shot well over 30 % from three ..... .372 our final four year. This year Moore, Broome, Williams, Scott, Fredericks, and Johnson are all shooting under 30% . To make any run in the tournament that needs to improve some maybe by taking less out of control shots. We will not win many games if the score goes beyond the mid sixties. Have to hope Jenifer gets his confidence back; if he hit his foul shots and one or two of his threes maybe we would have stayed in control of the Houston game longer. I don't think we can play from too far behind in games against good teams.

Scott and Fredericks should never take a 3 point shot. I too wish they were both more like Nelson and Martin and knew what their limits were and played to their strengths nearly all the time. Those guys were so good with their jumpers from 10 feet in and knowing when to take the shot. Very high basketball IQ from both guys. Scott and Fredericks just don't play that way.

I agree. Wonder what UC's three point percentage is with less than 3 seconds on the shot clock? Even worse I suspect. To me, it suggests this team shouldn't even be shooting 3's as often. Consistent desperation shots from outside are often a symptom of a failure to move the ball effectively on offense. If our shooters receive the pass from the inside out--they get clean looks and it's one of the prettiest plays in college basketball when it swishes through the nets. We watch our opponents do it regularly.

I just completed my first bracket prediction of the year for you all to enjoy. As of today my 1 seeds are UVA, UNC, Tennessee and Gonzaga. Only UVA is set in stone. The SEC and ACC tournament will tell us a ton and theoretically I could see Michigan State getting there as well. There is a decent chance any of the last 3 could fall off.

LSU as a 3 seed was difficult and I think they could still get a 1 seed (if they win the SEC tournament they absolutely will). Because Houston beat them I just gave Houston the edge. The 4 and 5 seeds are kind of a jumble, but I think they've mostly separated themselves from the 6 and 7 seeds.

I have Cincinnati as the second 7 seed right now. I could see them as a 6 seed depending on how the committee views Iowa State, Nevada, Buffalo and Maryland (all of these teams have resumes that are really a matter of preference, not significantly better than one or the other). I think UC should be able to play themselves to a 6 seed this week. I think falling to an 8 seed would take a loss before the finals AND other teams behind them having a good week (such as UCF/Baylor/Iowa). I don't see them falling below an 8 seed.

I had a really hard time differentiating between teams at the end of the bracket. Starting with Temple on down I could see the committee leaving any of those bottom teams out in place of a team like TCU, Creighton, Indiana or even UNCG if anyone on the committee decides to value strength of record. My assumption in making this bracket is that Clemson holds on against NC State. If they do I think NC State gets left out because of their dreadful nonconference SOS. I'm not confident Clemson is in and the teams behind them could certainly pass them even if they are right now.

1 Seeds Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Gonzaga

2 Seeds Kentucky, Duke, Michigan State, Houston

3 Seeds LSU, Texas Tech, Michigan, Purdue

4 Seeds Virginia Tech, Kansas State, Florida State, Kansas

5 Seeds Mississippi State, Wisconsin, Auburn, Marquette

6 Seeds Villanova, Iowa State, Nevada, Buffalo

7 Seeds Maryland, Cincinnati, Louisville, Wofford

8 Seeds Baylor, Iowa, UCF, Syracuse

9 Seeds Seton Hall, Minnesota, VCU, Washington

10 Seeds Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Temple, Ohio State

11 Seeds Utah State, St Johns, Arizona State, Texas/Clemson,

12 Seeds Belmont/Florida, St Marys, Murray State, Liberty

13 Seeds NM State, Yale, GA Southern, Old Dominion

14 Seeds Bradley, Vermont, UC Irvine, NKU

15 Seeds Montana, Colgate, Northeastern, Iona

16 Seeds Gardner Webb, Sam Houston St., North Dakota State/Prarie View A&M, Fairleigh Dickinson/Norfolk State



Last 6 In: St Johns, Arizona State, Texas, Belmont, Florida, Clemson

First 6 Out: TCU, Creighton, Indiana, NC State, UNCG, Alabama

(03-13-2019 12:20 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I just completed my first bracket prediction of the year for you all to enjoy. As of today my 1 seeds are UVA, UNC, Tennessee and Gonzaga. Only UVA is set in stone. The SEC and ACC tournament will tell us a ton and theoretically I could see Michigan State getting there as well. There is a decent chance any of the last 3 could fall off.

LSU as a 3 seed was difficult and I think they could still get a 1 seed (if they win the SEC tournament they absolutely will). Because Houston beat them I just gave Houston the edge. The 4 and 5 seeds are kind of a jumble, but I think they've mostly separated themselves from the 6 and 7 seeds.

I have Cincinnati as the second 7 seed right now. I could see them as a 6 seed depending on how the committee views Iowa State, Nevada, Buffalo and Maryland (all of these teams have resumes that are really a matter of preference, not significantly better than one or the other). I think UC should be able to play themselves to a 6 seed this week. I think falling to an 8 seed would take a loss before the finals AND other teams behind them having a good week (such as UCF/Baylor/Iowa). I don't see them falling below an 8 seed.

I had a really hard time differentiating between teams at the end of the bracket. Starting with Temple on down I could see the committee leaving any of those bottom teams out in place of a team like TCU, Creighton, Indiana or even UNCG if anyone on the committee decides to value strength of record. My assumption in making this bracket is that Clemson holds on against NC State. If they do I think NC State gets left out because of their dreadful nonconference SOS. I'm not confident Clemson is in and the teams behind them could certainly pass them even if they are right now.

1 Seeds Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Gonzaga

2 Seeds Kentucky, Duke, Michigan State, Houston

3 Seeds LSU, Texas Tech, Michigan, Purdue

4 Seeds Virginia Tech, Kansas State, Florida State, Kansas

5 Seeds Mississippi State, Wisconsin, Auburn, Marquette

6 Seeds Villanova, Iowa State, Nevada, Buffalo

7 Seeds Maryland, Cincinnati, Louisville, Wofford

8 Seeds Baylor, Iowa, UCF, Syracuse

9 Seeds Seton Hall, Minnesota, VCU, Washington

10 Seeds Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Temple, Ohio State

11 Seeds Utah State, St Johns, Arizona State, Texas/Clemson,

12 Seeds Belmont/Florida, St Marys, Murray State, Liberty

13 Seeds NM State, Yale, GA Southern, Old Dominion

14 Seeds Bradley, Vermont, UC Irvine, NKU

15 Seeds Montana, Colgate, Northeastern, Iona

16 Seeds Gardner Webb, Sam Houston St., North Dakota State/Prarie View A&M, Fairleigh Dickinson/Norfolk State



Last 6 In: St Johns, Arizona State, Texas, Belmont, Florida, Clemson

First 6 Out: TCU, Creighton, Indiana, NC State, UNCG, Alabama

At this point I have to think whoever wins the SEC is the 1 seed. Is there a scenario where 3 ACC teams get it? I have to wonder if Gonzaga really still has it, I just feel like the other teams they are up against have done so much more. All Gonzaga really has is the one win against Duke.

(03-13-2019 12:36 PM)jarr Wrote:  At this point I have to think whoever wins the SEC is the 1 seed. Is there a scenario where 3 ACC teams get it? I have to wonder if Gonzaga really still has it, I just feel like the other teams they are up against have done so much more. All Gonzaga really has is the one win against Duke.

I think they do until we see Duke with Zion again. It's possible Kentucky has it. If I was betting on whether Gonzaga has the 1 seed on selection sunday, I'd bet against it.

Clemson is going to blow this game. They've found a lot of ways to lose this year.

Let's get the conference tournament champions/NCAA auto bid list going. I love watching the smaller conference tournaments instead of middlin' P5 teams. Colgate and Bucknell going at it in the Patriot Championship.

Atlantic Sun Liberty (28-6)
Big South Gardner-Webb (23-11)
Colonial Northeastern (23-10)
Horizon League N. Kentucky (26-8)
MAAC Iona (17-15)
Missouri Valley Bradley (20-14)
Northeast F. Dickinson (20-13)
Ohio Valley Murray State (27-4)
Southern Wofford (29-4)
Summit N. Dakota State (18-15)
West Coast St. Mary's (22-11)

(03-13-2019 08:02 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Let's get the conference tournament champions/NCAA auto bid list going. I love watching the smaller conference tournaments instead of middlin' P5 teams. Colgate and Bucknell going at it in the Patriot Championship.

Atlantic Sun Liberty (28-6)
Big South Gardner-Webb (23-11)
Colonial Northeastern (23-10)
Horizon League N. Kentucky (26-8)
MAAC Iona (17-15)
Missouri Valley Bradley (20-14)
Northeast F. Dickinson (20-13)
Ohio Valley Murray State (27-4)
Patriot Colgate (24-10)
Southern Wofford (29-4)
Summit N. Dakota State (18-15)
West Coast St. Mary's (22-11)

Colgate punches their ticket.

(03-11-2019 10:21 PM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

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(03-10-2019 12:05 PM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  

(03-10-2019 08:52 AM)jarr Wrote:  If Zion is back and they win the ACC tournament (beating UNC and Virginia) then they are a 1. I do believe that would give 3 1s to the ACC.

The question to me is donthe Zags get to stay a 1? I think it has alot to do with what happens in the SEC tournament

I think Gonzaga is going to have to earn it with style points roght now. If they are pulling off 5-10 point wins in the WCC, I don't think it will turn enough heads to give them a 1.

I expect Zion to sit out the ACC tournament. Coach K will then announce he is 100% and ready for the NCAA tournament. The selection committee will believe him and award Duke a #1 seed.

Agreed, the Committee will get squeamish and award the Dookies a 3 seed and place them opposite UC's 6 seed to continue our bad/unlucky seed history. Duke, with Zion back becomes the most non-Cinderella Cinderella and Zion lovefest in NCAA history

No thing as a bad unlucky seed history. Beat who is in front of you. No whining ... rise to the occasion and just win.

Playing an NBA filled roster in the first weekend isn’t ideal.

Not ideal. However, the opportunity has huge upside. You beat said team and earn much deserved respect. Great teams rise to the occasion.