Whatever came of this? Still supposed to happen?

https://csnbbs.com/thread-851188.html

I understand there are some against it, but as a USM fan, I'm all for it. Our program needs every D1 game it can get. Especially a D1 home game.

I haven’t heard anything lately.

but now that we’ve seen the pod schedules once, notice that each team gets one ‘bye’ in the pod rounds...

I suggested in another thread that... NEXT year once SBC starts the same pod format.... then it would become very easy to match the top 10 teams in CUSA against their corresponding top 10 team in sunbelt on what is currently the bye date.

So for example this year ODU would play in bonus play the other four top five teams in CUSA, plus the #1 team over in SBC.

I don’t follow the sunbelt closely enough to know how many teams they have... but if you make it work for the top five or top ten teams in CUSA then mission accomplished.

(03-09-2019 08:12 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  I haven’t heard anything lately.

but now that we’ve seen the pod schedules once, notice that each team gets one ‘bye’ in the pod rounds...

I suggested in another thread that... NEXT year once SBC starts the same pod format.... then it would become very easy to match the top 10 teams in CUSA against their corresponding top 10 team in sunbelt on what is currently the bye date.

So for example this year ODU would play in bonus play the other four top five teams in CUSA, plus the #1 team over in SBC.

I don’t follow the sunbelt closely enough to know how many teams they have... but if you make it work for the top five or top ten teams in CUSA then mission accomplished.

Sun Belt has 12 basketball playing schools. This is a good idea.

clt doesn’t want to play the lowly sun belt

(03-09-2019 09:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt doesn’t want to play the lowly sun belt

That was my first reaction, too. But this is about helping strength of schedule at the top of the conference. Sun Belt does have four or five quality programs for our Pod 1 teams. In Pods 2 and 3, we probably win most of the games, but we will know for sure if we play those games. 13 and 14 in C-USA just play one more game against each other, if it makes sense to do so.

(03-09-2019 10:10 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 09:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt doesn’t want to play the lowly sun belt

That was my first reaction, too. But this is about helping strength of schedule at the top of the conference. Sun Belt does have four or five quality programs for our Pod 1 teams. In Pods 2 and 3, we probably win most of the games, but we will know for sure if we play those games. 13 and 14 in C-USA just play one more game against each other, if it makes sense to do so.

Out of the three conferences ODU is the only school with NET ranking in the top 100...….at 91.

(03-09-2019 10:23 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 10:10 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 09:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt doesn’t want to play the lowly sun belt

That was my first reaction, too. But this is about helping strength of schedule at the top of the conference. Sun Belt does have four or five quality programs for our Pod 1 teams. In Pods 2 and 3, we probably win most of the games, but we will know for sure if we play those games. 13 and 14 in C-USA just play one more game against each other, if it makes sense to do so.

Out of the three conferences ODU is the only school with NET ranking in the top 100...….at 91.

More games against each other would likely help that if you can match best to best. Particularly if it meant cutting out the bottom hanging fruit on the schedule. Even better if it’s the rotten fruit lying on the ground that is non-D1 in-season games.

(03-09-2019 01:13 PM)DustMyBroom Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 10:23 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 10:10 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 09:00 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt doesn’t want to play the lowly sun belt

That was my first reaction, too. But this is about helping strength of schedule at the top of the conference. Sun Belt does have four or five quality programs for our Pod 1 teams. In Pods 2 and 3, we probably win most of the games, but we will know for sure if we play those games. 13 and 14 in C-USA just play one more game against each other, if it makes sense to do so.

Out of the three conferences ODU is the only school with NET ranking in the top 100...….at 91.

More games against each other would likely help that if you can match best to best. Particularly if it meant cutting out the bottom hanging fruit on the schedule. Even better if it’s the rotten fruit lying on the ground that is non-D1 in-season games.

Hard to tell since we don't exactly know how NET is calculated. We hovered around the 75 mark for a few weeks, inching up a little with each win then dropping back a little. One loss to USM pushed us back to 93. We need to study the SoCon apparently and see what they've done. If we can get a few teams in the top 75 we can start notching tier one wins against each other. I'm not against it though.

One thing I’ve noticed about this new NET is this.

It heavily rewards road wins of ten points or more.

So teams like North Texas running roughshod at home won’t help.

We’re going to have to be road warriors to make hey.

The other thing I noticed is ODU had a lot of close wins. So all those road wins won’t matter unless you rout the other team.

Gonna have to change how coaches coach, basically.

(03-09-2019 08:12 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  I haven’t heard anything lately.

but now that we’ve seen the pod schedules once, notice that each team gets one ‘bye’ in the pod rounds...

I suggested in another thread that... NEXT year once SBC starts the same pod format.... then it would become very easy to match the top 10 teams in CUSA against their corresponding top 10 team in sunbelt on what is currently the bye date.

So for example this year ODU would play in bonus play the other four top five teams in CUSA, plus the #1 team over in SBC.

I don’t follow the sunbelt closely enough to know how many teams they have... but if you make it work for the top five or top ten teams in CUSA then mission accomplished.

With 12 teams, the Sun Belt would most likely go with even-numbered (4-4-4 or 6-6) pods, so they won't have any bye weeks to fill.

I like the idea of going cross-conference, but we'd likely have to go to 4-4-6 or 6-4-4 to match their pod system and just have a dedicated crossover date.

The NET is calculated by consecutive games of rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock held by the committee.

(03-09-2019 05:03 PM)DarrellEW Wrote:  With 12 teams, the Sun Belt would most likely go with even-numbered (4-4-4 or 6-6) pods, so they won't have any bye weeks to fill.

I like the idea of going cross-conference, but we'd likely have to go to 4-4-6 or 6-4-4 to match their pod system and just have a dedicated crossover date.

The Sun Belt is going 3-3-3-3. So there would be opportunity for simultaneous byes. Not sure what you do with the unequal number of teams. Have a pod 1 and a pod 2 team from CUSA play an extra game against each other?

(03-09-2019 07:05 PM)Crayton Wrote:  

(03-09-2019 05:03 PM)DarrellEW Wrote:  With 12 teams, the Sun Belt would most likely go with even-numbered (4-4-4 or 6-6) pods, so they won't have any bye weeks to fill.

I like the idea of going cross-conference, but we'd likely have to go to 4-4-6 or 6-4-4 to match their pod system and just have a dedicated crossover date.

The Sun Belt is going 3-3-3-3. So there would be opportunity for simultaneous byes. Not sure what you do with the unequal number of teams. Have a pod 1 and a pod 2 team from CUSA play an extra game against each other?

Difference in pod sizes shouldn’t matter so long as the dates line up, but I suspect you’re going to see something set up in December or January. Matchups would be determined by last season plus non conference through thanksgiving.

Last 4-5 years, haven’t Sun Belt and C-USA been rated about the same in MBB?

(03-09-2019 05:08 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  The NET is calculated by consecutive games of rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock held by the committee.

Makes more sense than RPI did. Kansas, yes Kansas at 23-8, is #1 in RPI. Kansas is #20 in the NET rankings.

C-USA is #12 in NET rankings by conference, ahead of the MWC, MVC, Southern, and WAC before the Sun Belt at #17. Horizon is at #20.

And C-USA now has two NET Top 100 teams, USM at #92 and ODU at #99.