42 fouls called in this game, you would have thought this was a UT-BG game, teams that don't like each other and beating each other on the floor. These MAC officials in this game were terrible. Let the guys play and bump. Lot of these fouls were called on what I call hustle plays, two players going after a rebound or loose ball and getting called for the foul. Can you imagine these refs in the big ten conference, those officials let the players bump and grind, not this picky stuff that they called in this game. I give these refs one thing, they called bad fouls on both teams and were very consistant in doing so. There is no flow in the game when the officials think they are part of the game.

Longest game I can remember...

The foul call on Navigato that was eventually reversed was a really insane calll. It happened right in front of me. Navigato simply caught the ball and the refs accused him to tripping the WMU player and I believe they were also planning on calling a technical on him too. Fortunately they stopped play, watched the replay and realized Navigato had done nothing at all but catch the ball. Coach K was furious with the call and for good reason. UT fans are not usually big on booing officials but we had no choice on that one.

(03-06-2019 04:05 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  42 fouls called in this game, you would have thought this was a UT-BG game, teams that don't like each other and beating each other on the floor. These MAC officials in this game were terrible. Let the guys play and bump. Lot of these fouls were called on what I call hustle plays, two players going after a rebound or loose ball and getting called for the foul. Can you imagine these refs in the big ten conference, those officials let the players bump and grind, not this picky stuff that they called in this game. I give these refs one thing, they called bad fouls on both teams and were very consistant in doing so. There is no flow in the game when the officials think they are part of the game.

I've seen games like that at NIU too. I don't know if it's a certain set of officials that does that? Every little thing is a foul. Makes the game really hard to watch.

(03-06-2019 04:27 PM)Rocket75 Wrote:  The foul call on Navigato that was eventually reversed was a really insane calll. It happened right in front of me. Navigato simply caught the ball and the refs accused him to tripping the WMU player and I believe they were also planning on calling a technical on him too. Fortunately they stopped play, watched the replay and realized Navigato had done nothing at all but catch the ball. Coach K was furious with the call and for good reason. UT fans are not usually big on booing officials but we had no choice on that one.

That's interesting. I wasn't at the game, so I know only what I'm reading here. But the refs are not supposed to reverse a foul call based on a videotape review, even if they can see that the call was wrong. They are only allowed to decide whether a foul was flagrant or not. Maybe the original call was so awful that they couldn't help themselves in reversing it.

Last year there was a classic call in a women's game when the Ball State center turned to take a shot and elbowed Tanaya Beacham in the face. The foul was called on Beacham. Then, noticing that Beacham was injured, the refs reviewed the play. The incorrect call against Beacham stood, but the BSU players was also given a flagrant foul.

The problem with NCAA officiating is that the officials are graded on how many fouls are called in a game. In an effort to clean up the game, the ncaa wants refs to call basically any type of contact. This results in longer games and more free throws. Blame coaches like Coach K who want “freedom of movement” and have pushed the ncaa to officiate tighter. These refs are basically paranoid that if they don’t call enough fouls, they’ll lose games to officiate. At $2000-2500 a game, I’d do whatever the ncaa tells me to do...

This is why it is rare to see a game in the collegiate ranks where the officials only call what is necessary.

(03-07-2019 07:21 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  The problem with NCAA officiating is that the officials are graded on how many fouls are called in a game. In an effort to clean up the game, the ncaa wants refs to call basically any type of contact. This results in longer games and more free throws. Blame coaches like Coach K who want “freedom of movement” and have pushed the ncaa to officiate tighter. These refs are basically paranoid that if they don’t call enough fouls, they’ll lose games to officiate. At $2000-2500 a game, I’d do whatever the ncaa tells me to do...

This is why it is rare to see a game in the collegiate ranks where the officials only call what is necessary.

Color me skeptical given the number of games where there are four free throws in a half and no one gets into the bonus. There were several on the women’s side and a few on the men’s.

(03-07-2019 09:22 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 07:21 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  The problem with NCAA officiating is that the officials are graded on how many fouls are called in a game. In an effort to clean up the game, the ncaa wants refs to call basically any type of contact. This results in longer games and more free throws. Blame coaches like Coach K who want “freedom of movement” and have pushed the ncaa to officiate tighter. These refs are basically paranoid that if they don’t call enough fouls, they’ll lose games to officiate. At $2000-2500 a game, I’d do whatever the ncaa tells me to do...

This is why it is rare to see a game in the collegiate ranks where the officials only call what is necessary.

Color me skeptical given the number of games where there are four free throws in a half and no one gets into the bonus. There were several on the women’s side and a few on the men’s.

Like the men’s game at cmu last weekend. Was over in less than 1:40 and hardly had any fouls. Was great to watch.

(03-07-2019 09:22 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 07:21 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  The problem with NCAA officiating is that the officials are graded on how many fouls are called in a game. In an effort to clean up the game, the ncaa wants refs to call basically any type of contact. This results in longer games and more free throws. Blame coaches like Coach K who want “freedom of movement” and have pushed the ncaa to officiate tighter. These refs are basically paranoid that if they don’t call enough fouls, they’ll lose games to officiate. At $2000-2500 a game, I’d do whatever the ncaa tells me to do...

This is why it is rare to see a game in the collegiate ranks where the officials only call what is necessary.

Color me skeptical given the number of games where there are four free throws in a half and no one gets into the bonus. There were several on the women’s side and a few on the men’s.

Correct. Sometimes you have great crews who call the game correctly. Other times...not so much

(03-07-2019 09:22 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 07:21 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  The problem with NCAA officiating is that the officials are graded on how many fouls are called in a game. In an effort to clean up the game, the ncaa wants refs to call basically any type of contact. This results in longer games and more free throws. Blame coaches like Coach K who want “freedom of movement” and have pushed the ncaa to officiate tighter. These refs are basically paranoid that if they don’t call enough fouls, they’ll lose games to officiate. At $2000-2500 a game, I’d do whatever the ncaa tells me to do...

This is why it is rare to see a game in the collegiate ranks where the officials only call what is necessary.

Color me skeptical given the number of games where there are four free throws in a half and no one gets into the bonus. There were several on the women’s side and a few on the men’s.

Correct. Sometimes you have great crews who call the game correctly. Other times...not so much

I get info from college officials at basketball camps and meetings during the offseason. I know the ncaa wants them to call more fouls in the name of freedom of movement. The really good refs can call a great game and not turn it into a FT shooting contest. Those I admire...

I hope the same crew from the WMU game does our game vs EMU. If their trees foul out when we go inside I'd be very happy. Even if we lose. The less time JT4 has to run his mouth the better my time was spent watching.

(03-07-2019 12:18 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  I hope the same crew from the WMU game does our game vs EMU. If their trees foul out when we go inside I'd be very happy. Even if we lose. The less time JT4 has to run his mouth the better my time was spent watching.

^This.