You first said this which I imagine most generally agreed with, other than the others on the lunatic fringe.

Quote:Let's not go down the same road the GOP did with Obama. These things are personal private information.

Then two posts later went ALL THIS:

(03-06-2019 01:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Of course...trump is most likely a liar when it comes to his time at Wharton.

Quote:In 1968, The Daily Pennsylvanian published a list of the 56 students who were on the Wharton Dean’s List that year — Trump’s name is not among them.

“I recognize virtually all the names on that list, ” 1968 Wharton graduate Stephen Foxman said, “and Trump just wasn’t one of them.”

1968 Wharton graduate Jon Hillsberg added that there was no indication on the 1968 Commencement Program that Trump graduated with any honors. A copy of the program acquired from the Penn Archives lists 20 Wharton award and prize recipients, 15 *** laude recipients, four magna *** laude recipients and two summa *** laude recipients for the Class of 1968. Trump’s name appears nowhere on those lists.

“If he had done well, his name would have shown up,” Foxman said.

Was Trump really a top student at Wharton? His classmates say not so much

Can't make this schit up...

(03-06-2019 01:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/school-attend...46574.html

Quote:Washington (AFP) - A military academy that Donald Trump attended as a teenager concealed his academic records in 2011 in response to pressure from Trump allies, The Washington Post reported Tuesday.

The New York Military Academy came under such pressure after Trump challenged then president Barack Obama to release his own academic records, with Trump saying he was surprised such a "terrible student" got into Ivy League Schools.

What is low IQ Donald trying to hide?

Trump, his allies, and the military academy simply didn't want to embarrass his classmates by showing The Donald's superior grades.

This article and the entire premise behind it is absurd. It is illegal for a school to release educational record without consent.

Trump allies pressured the school to FOLLOW THE LAW and protect his grades. There is a difference in keeping something secret as the article states and private as the school was bound by FERPA to do.

(03-06-2019 07:00 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  This article and the entire premise behind it is absurd. It is illegal for a school to release educational record without consent.

Trump allies pressured the school to FOLLOW THE LAW and protect his grades. There is a difference in keeping something secret as the article states and private as the school was bound by FERPA to do.

This, plus the 'low IQ' comments.

He got himself elected President.

What have most other people done?

I think he's an arrogant pompous prick, but he's clearly not as stupid as lots of people. The guy who invented the 3d food is probably a certifiable genius... and I probably wouldn't want to sit down to dinner with him or even watch a game

Grades in this context are pretty irrelevant imo, no matter if it were Trump or Obama. But it's pretty funny to think about Trump being enough of an egotist that he didn't want his high school releasing his grades even before he got into politics.

(03-06-2019 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Let's not go down the same road the GOP did with Obama. These things are personal private information. There is no need to seal or conceal them. If the individual (trump or Obama) doesn't want to release them, they stay private.

Exactly. I must say it is refreshing to see someone, who leans generally left, not being a hypocrite on this one. The left may expel you, be careful.

I've said before, transcripts are something that I would like to see released more so than tax returns. But for now, the law is that they are not released without the individual's consent.

OMG... IMPEEEEEACH.

lol

Add this to Tlaib's list of impeachable items, Lord knows... she needs the help.

(03-06-2019 03:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  You first said this which I imagine most generally agreed with, other than the others on the lunatic fringe.

Quote:Let's not go down the same road the GOP did with Obama. These things are personal private information.

Then two posts later went ALL THIS:

(03-06-2019 01:55 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Of course...trump is most likely a liar when it comes to his time at Wharton.

Quote:In 1968, The Daily Pennsylvanian published a list of the 56 students who were on the Wharton Dean’s List that year — Trump’s name is not among them.

“I recognize virtually all the names on that list, ” 1968 Wharton graduate Stephen Foxman said, “and Trump just wasn’t one of them.”

1968 Wharton graduate Jon Hillsberg added that there was no indication on the 1968 Commencement Program that Trump graduated with any honors. A copy of the program acquired from the Penn Archives lists 20 Wharton award and prize recipients, 15 *** laude recipients, four magna *** laude recipients and two summa *** laude recipients for the Class of 1968. Trump’s name appears nowhere on those lists.

“If he had done well, his name would have shown up,” Foxman said.

Was Trump really a top student at Wharton? His classmates say not so much

Can't make this schit up...

Dude, stop embarrassing yourself. I'm only talking about the claims that anyone is either paying money or demanding that schools seal or hide grades from the public, when the law has always prevented them from releasing them anyway. You can post any article you want from former Obama classmates saying he wasn't a great student...I don't give a flying ****...much as I don't give a flying **** as to what type of student trump or Obama was. But if you want to suck the orange man's **** and believe the he was first in his class, with no evidence, chomp away!

(03-06-2019 08:35 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 01:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Let's not go down the same road the GOP did with Obama. These things are personal private information. There is no need to seal or conceal them. If the individual (trump or Obama) doesn't want to release them, they stay private.

Exactly. I must say it is refreshing to see someone, who leans generally left, not being a hypocrite on this one. The left may expel you, be careful.

I've said before, transcripts are something that I would like to see released more so than tax returns. But for now, the law is that they are not released without the individual's consent.

I don't get it....why should one give a shite?

we already know the supposed laureates screw the pooch on a daily basis....

Trump probably didn’t want to embarrass the other students. He got very high marks, that I can tell you.

I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?

And how many bankrupted a casino?

But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

Wait, are we talking about a High School?

(03-06-2019 03:28 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 03:22 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(03-06-2019 02:54 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I don’t need to know his grades in HS or college. It does seem a bit dishonest, however, for Trump to make such a sideshow about Obama’s grades and citizenship status and then turn around and put his school work on lock down. He ought to release them w/o a fuss, if it were so important for him to see Obama’s.

I'd agree, except we didn't get Obama's, did we?

Why should Trump follow rules that he's been specifically told (because he challenged it) don't apply to others?

I think pot should be legal... am I a hypocrite for not breaking the law (in states where it isn't legal or if I don't choose to smoke?)

If it were so important to Trump, you’d think he’d be dying to show his off. He does proclaim to be the smartest guy in the room.

Thankfully, President Obama was a bit more humble.

You would think it was important for Barry to release his birth certificate but he didn’t until he and the democrats had made it a rallying cry.
I personally believe a birth certificate is much more important than a tax return. One is required by law to be POTUS. One isn’t.

(03-07-2019 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?

And how many bankrupted a casino?

But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

You obviously don’t see it as such either....

(03-07-2019 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?
And how many bankrupted a casino?
But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

Responding from bottom to top. I don't know about that last assertion. I think it was a great accomplishment, I just wish he hadn't accomplished it. Fortunately, he was pretty unsuccessful in implementing his socialist agenda. Unfortunately, he may have inspired the AOC's of the world and their ilk to accomplish what he couldn't.

I don't see filing for bankruptcy as that big a thing. When you do as many deals as he has done, some of them won't work, and most of those that don't work will end up in bankruptcy. I doubt that his record in that regard is any worse than average for people in his business, and I would guess it is somewhat better. I'm trying to talk a client out of a deal that has future bankruptcy written all over it. Bankruptcy is a way of live in the development and hospitality industries, and those are the two industries Trump has been in.

I don't know or care whether he is a multi-billionaire, a billionaire, a multi-millionaire, a millionaire, or broke. That's just not a big deal to me. I know which one I am, and that's all that really matters to me.

(03-07-2019 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?
And how many bankrupted a casino?
But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

Responding from bottom to top. I don't know about that last assertion. I think it was a great accomplishment, I just wish he hadn't accomplished it. Fortunately, he was pretty unsuccessful in implementing his socialist agenda. Unfortunately, he may have inspired the AOC's of the world and their ilk to accomplish what he couldn't.

I don't see filing for bankruptcy as that big a thing. When you do as many deals as he has done, some of them won't work, and most of those that don't work will end up in bankruptcy. I doubt that his record in that regard is any worse than average for people in his business, and I would guess it is somewhat better. I'm trying to talk a client out of a deal that has future bankruptcy written all over it. Bankruptcy is a way of live in the development and hospitality industries, and those are the two industries Trump has been in.

I don't know or care whether he is a multi-billionaire, a billionaire, a multi-millionaire, a millionaire, or broke. That's just not a big deal to me. I know which one I am, and that's all that really matters to me.

I don't care if he's a billionaire either, but I do care if he's lying about it. And no, bankruptcy isn't that big a deal...but it's probably pretty hard to bankrupt a casino...lol

(03-07-2019 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 02:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?
And how many bankrupted a casino?
But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

Responding from bottom to top. I don't know about that last assertion. I think it was a great accomplishment, I just wish he hadn't accomplished it. Fortunately, he was pretty unsuccessful in implementing his socialist agenda. Unfortunately, he may have inspired the AOC's of the world and their ilk to accomplish what he couldn't.
I don't see filing for bankruptcy as that big a thing. When you do as many deals as he has done, some of them won't work, and most of those that don't work will end up in bankruptcy. I doubt that his record in that regard is any worse than average for people in his business, and I would guess it is somewhat better. I'm trying to talk a client out of a deal that has future bankruptcy written all over it. Bankruptcy is a way of live in the development and hospitality industries, and those are the two industries Trump has been in.
I don't know or care whether he is a multi-billionaire, a billionaire, a multi-millionaire, a millionaire, or broke. That's just not a big deal to me. I know which one I am, and that's all that really matters to me.

I don't care if he's a billionaire either, but I do care if he's lying about it. And no, bankruptcy isn't that big a deal...but it's probably pretty hard to bankrupt a casino...lol

Well, to know whether he is lying about it, we'd have to know the truth. And no, his tax returns won't reveal that, or even so much as a hint of that. And you, of all people should know that.

As far as bankrupting a casino, pay too much for the land or guess wrong on the customer growth, and you'll get there. The deal I'm trying to talk the client out of is an established money maker, but the seller wants probably 5 times its value, and the debt service will gobble up more than he'll make for the foreseeable future. It'd be a good deal for somebody who can pay cash and just sit back and wait on the real estate value to go up, but that's not my client.

(03-07-2019 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2019 01:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  I wonder how many of those geniuses that graduated ahead of him became Billionaires AND The POTUS?

Hard to say...is trump actually even a billionaire? And how many of them started out with a huge war chest and loan after loan from dad?

And how many bankrupted a casino?

But I do find it interesting that for Obama, becoming president was not really seen as an accomplishment by many on the right...but whatever floats your boat.

No one objects to Trump being a Billionaire, I guess except you. And my guess everyone in his class came from money, and if they are in business most have gone through bankruptcy, because it is such a great way to close out bad businesses and keep moving forward.