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(03-13-2019 08:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I love how we have a 94Hawk now. Fits right in with our 70sHawk and 82Hawk

Each decade represented!
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(03-13-2019 10:24 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I love how we have a 94Hawk now. Fits right in with our 70sHawk and 82Hawk

Each decade represented!

Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana
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(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 10:24 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I love how we have a 94Hawk now. Fits right in with our 70sHawk and 82Hawk

Each decade represented!

Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Decade after decade, we perseverate...
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RE: Expectations for next year....
(03-14-2019 06:35 AM)70shawk Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 10:24 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-13-2019 08:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  I love how we have a 94Hawk now. Fits right in with our 70sHawk and 82Hawk

Each decade represented!

Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Decade after decade, we perseverate...

Claflin use runs strong in the family it seems.
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Family photo at the Claflin convention?
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(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Woah woah woah. Our decade brought Amber Bryant. That's gotta be worth something.
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(03-14-2019 10:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Woah woah woah. Our decade brought Amber Bryant. That's gotta be worth something.
And the most successful decade in hoops history
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(03-14-2019 10:53 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 10:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Woah woah woah. Our decade brought Amber Bryant. That's gotta be worth something.
And the most successful decade in hoops history

Word on the street is that Amber Bryant is a shell of her former self - strung out on Claflin.[Image: 8b9219ff04b3e59e3e73d9c5ae0a50d24dd9ec80]
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(03-14-2019 01:04 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 10:53 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 10:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Woah woah woah. Our decade brought Amber Bryant. That's gotta be worth something.
And the most successful decade in hoops history

Word on the street is that Amber Bryant is a shell of her former self - strung out on Claflin.[Image: 8b9219ff04b3e59e3e73d9c5ae0a50d24dd9ec80]

I blame all those dirty basketball players for corrupting her.
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(03-14-2019 01:07 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 01:04 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 10:53 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 10:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 02:24 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Decades, of reason, knowledge and wisdom on fulll display. 2000's? Not so much...02-13-banana

Woah woah woah. Our decade brought Amber Bryant. That's gotta be worth something.
And the most successful decade in hoops history

Word on the street is that Amber Bryant is a shell of her former self - strung out on Claflin.[Image: 8b9219ff04b3e59e3e73d9c5ae0a50d24dd9ec80]

I blame all those dirty basketball players for corrupting her.

I think Amber was trying to break Wilt Chamberlain's all time basketball "record"..
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From the way she looks now it appears that if she didn't break Wilt's record the attempt broke her.

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Ric Flair broke that record.
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(03-14-2019 06:51 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Ric Flair broke that record.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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(03-14-2019 09:00 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(03-14-2019 06:51 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Ric Flair broke that record.

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Amber Bryant met her match when she was hit up by The Nature Boy!





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(05-10-2019 12:07 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
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(05-10-2019 11:23 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 10:38 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  This class already has one grad transfer and a JUCO player, and are waiting on a decision from another grad transfer big. CB has done a good job building a team that has the talent to compete in the top half of the conference next season, and be a conference contender going forward. Whether that actually happens will determine his fate.

Does that even replace Cylla though, much less Cacock. If I were McGrath I wouldn't feel comfortable until I cut some of those players that weren't playing and had 5 or 6 of those JUCO's or grad transfers. The high school freshman you signed may be good but unless they are really good next year they might have to be good for the next coach or just transfer if he gets fired anyway. He doesn't seem to have a lot of urgency.

Cylla was a flop for most of us... While I wish him well at Arkansas, he won't be missed. Sims will replace him in the starting lineup and will take a big step in his sophomore season. He started to show his true potential near the end of the season. 4 of our 5 starters were on the roster last season, the need to completely overhaul the roster like you're talking about isn't necessary. He just needs to start winning games with the talent he has...

You and apparently McGrath are a lot more confidence than I would be. Cacock is as massive a loss in what he gave you as any team will ever have to replace just to seemingly tread water where you were last year. You might need 2 or 3 players just to make up the singular value he was giving you.

I wouldn't feel to confident in bench players from last year or some high school freshman to replace all that in the aggregate. Just seems like he would want to get some more established immediate help after his first two years if his job was on the line.

I'm not gonna sit here and debate you on how Cacok can be replaced... because he can't be. No matter how you angle it, it's a stupid debate because he just can't be... However, there is hope with Toews, Gadsden, Estime, and Sims returning. If you watched UNCW basketball last year, you would understand that. With the CAA wide open next year, UNCW has the talent to compete. I'm not saying CB can get it done, I'm just saying he has the talent to get it done.

Seems like all the more reason he would be going in heavier on JUCO's and Grad transfers.
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(05-10-2019 02:10 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:07 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 12:01 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 11:47 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(05-10-2019 11:23 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Does that even replace Cylla though, much less Cacock. If I were McGrath I wouldn't feel comfortable until I cut some of those players that weren't playing and had 5 or 6 of those JUCO's or grad transfers. The high school freshman you signed may be good but unless they are really good next year they might have to be good for the next coach or just transfer if he gets fired anyway. He doesn't seem to have a lot of urgency.

Cylla was a flop for most of us... While I wish him well at Arkansas, he won't be missed. Sims will replace him in the starting lineup and will take a big step in his sophomore season. He started to show his true potential near the end of the season. 4 of our 5 starters were on the roster last season, the need to completely overhaul the roster like you're talking about isn't necessary. He just needs to start winning games with the talent he has...

You and apparently McGrath are a lot more confidence than I would be. Cacock is as massive a loss in what he gave you as any team will ever have to replace just to seemingly tread water where you were last year. You might need 2 or 3 players just to make up the singular value he was giving you.

I wouldn't feel to confident in bench players from last year or some high school freshman to replace all that in the aggregate. Just seems like he would want to get some more established immediate help after his first two years if his job was on the line.

I'm not gonna sit here and debate you on how Cacok can be replaced... because he can't be. No matter how you angle it, it's a stupid debate because he just can't be... However, there is hope with Toews, Gadsden, Estime, and Sims returning. If you watched UNCW basketball last year, you would understand that. With the CAA wide open next year, UNCW has the talent to compete. I'm not saying CB can get it done, I'm just saying he has the talent to get it done.

Seems like all the more reason he would be going in heavier on JUCO's and Grad transfers.

Disagree. I don’t think you’ll find a D1 coach that is willing to be heavier on JUCOs and Grad transfers than his own recruits. If he finds success, it’s not sustainable in that model because he only has those players definitively for 1-2 years. He’d be left trying to get lucky with transfers every year for a while and that doesn’t make for sound logic if you’re in it for a career.


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RE: Expectations for next year....
It's too early to see what next year will be because we haven't finished with our recruiting. For those of us that have actually watched all the games last year, it was obvious that there were chemistry problems and youth too. Cylla is a good talent and I wish him the best, but he took terrible shots outside of the offense often and didn't defend and board the way we wanted. And, when Cacok was out of the lineup, the team would often outscore the other team during that period. It was a situation where they felt that they needed to force it down low and everybody knew the deal. The offensive execution in the last 2 minutes often times was the problem. Cacok rebounded well/even out of position and was always reliable so rebounding will have to be an emphasis going forward but they should be okay.

Next year UNCW will have more options and will have guys with a year under their belt. Toews will be better, Ty will be Ty which is good since he was one of the top 3 point shooters in the nation and has a knack to score, Estime will be a jr and my man Sims will be a soph. That's 4 guys that either started or played a ton of minutes and all will be able to knock down perimeter shots. Sims at the 4 is a problem to deal with folks. When you add Phillips to that mix, Tolefree with his driving and athleticism, and the shooting of Skaggs, you have multiple options to deal with. It will be interesting at the 4 to see if they go small with Sims or if Sims plays 3 and they go with Dodd at times with another big. Boggs seems like a driving 3 to me with great size, but could be a modern day 4 man. If this was last year, Dodd would be a 5 man but I'm not sure about that yet without seeing them play. Regardless, there's WAY more talent and versatility already but another big would be great and a big that can defend the rim would be ideal.

To me, it's about having a few guys that can get their own shot too. That was an issue. Kai can do this and I think that Phillips will add that dimension. Tolefree seems like a kid that will be a problem to stop also with his offensive arsenal being able to drive it hard and finish strong with dunks/Boggs may be that guy too but I have to see more from the freshman. Sims can play above the rim and can drive it home too plus board it-he's just a great team player that does a little of everything and can drill that 3 in clutch moments even as a freshman. Hawks now have multiple guys that can finish or get fouled at the rim off the bounce which is big because that was their undoing late in games. Big difference you would think.
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RE: Expectations for next year....
IMO it all depends on what happens with Sorolla for how our starting lineup will shake out. If he signs with UNCW I’d imagine the staff would elect to play a 4 guard lineup with Sims and Estime starting. If they don’t land Sorolla they’d probably look to play a forward along side Linsen in the front court. So...

Toews
Gadsden
Estime
Sims
Sorolla

Or

Toews
Gadsden
Sims/Estime
Dodd
Linsen

Skaggs, Tolefree, Boggs, and Phillips are great additions as they will provide depth at positions of need. The Hawks have a very solid 8/9 man rotation as it stands right now.
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And, I agree with CG here. I'd rather go younger with guys that can play together and get to know each other. When you just run off guys and get new guys, it takes time to gel. UNCW has good guys period and that's probably why guys are coming to UNCW right now because they like the guys in the program and see a chance to compete at a place that eventually will get back to the top. That's probably why UNCW just got 3 good players in a week. And, with the APR looming, it's smart to recruit kids that are also good students/people so that if they do transfer, it doesn't hurt the APR provided the grades are above say 2.6.

I like the direction of the program myself because it's being built organically for the most part with very good kids. Yes, there are times that you need to go out and get a big, so you have to but overall it's best to go 4 years with guys. The "good kids" part of it means more to me because it's easy to root for UNCW win or lose but when you have good kids, you end up winning more anyways in the end if you look at history. See signature line....
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RE: Expectations for next year....
Pretty good take Gary and it may not be a case who starts, but who finishes with this team at least early. There's already a ton of options to deal with which is fun to think about. We just don't know until they tee off. Tolefree may even start day 1, we don't know at this point. There's a lot of talent and athleticism 1-4. I'm excited about the new PG Phillips. He's good too.
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