(02-28-2019 05:08 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:49 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Well crap

It is amazing how people on here just make things up and state them with such confidence. A few people on here stated that the tourney would be a neutral game when it was stated that it would be a home game.

Because in past years they have counted as Nuetral site games....

No such thing as P5 in college basketball when the Big East is consistently better than every league but maybe the Big Ten and ACC.

I don't see many of the Big East games and yet I am always surprised at how good they are.

Nova shredded Michigan last year.

(02-28-2019 05:18 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:36 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:25 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:55 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:49 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Well crap

While disappointing nothing changes with that news.

Upset Cincy on Satruday, beat Tulsa, win 2 in the tourney (temple/ucf and houston).

Do that and they should be in.

Any other scenarios I think would require winning the conf tourney.

Temple/Ucf wont count as a Q1 win if they are considering it home games.

Ok it still changes nothing. Upset Cincy, beat tulsa, then win 2 in the conf tourney and they should be in. Do that their NET will be in the mid 30s, kenpom will prob be somewhere in the 50s, and they would be one of the hottest teams in the country. They would 8-2 in their last 10 and 7-1 in their last 8 in this scenario. With only losses coming to probably Cincinnati in conf championship and ucf on the road.

Any other scenario requires winning the conf tourney.

It's as simple as that. This news doesn't change what they have to do.

This is where we differ. I think doing that just gets us in the bubble conversation. So not being able to count games as a Q1 win will not help. And we need all the help we can get.

@Cincy, Tulsa, Temple/UCF, Houston wins get us in the tourney - no bubble to it.

In fact, I think we can still lose either @Cincy or to Houston in the semis and still be on the bubble. Win the other one of those 2 and we finally have our Q1 win. With no bad losses, we have a compelling bubble case. So long as we keep the loss respectable.

(02-28-2019 05:08 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:49 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Well crap

It is amazing how people on here just make things up and state them with such confidence. A few people on here stated that the tourney would be a neutral game when it was stated that it would be a home game.

Amen. And if you don’t believe it check the recruiting board out.

Best just listen and nod politely —- don’t believe a single ting you read here, mahn.

Doesn’t matter if it comes from tigerscane or ______ lol

(02-28-2019 06:44 PM)Dylan Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 05:08 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:49 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Well crap

It is amazing how people on here just make things up and state them with such confidence. A few people on here stated that the tourney would be a neutral game when it was stated that it would be a home game.

Amen. And if you don’t believe it check the recruiting board out.

If anyone else was quoting Drew Hill, as I did yesterday, we weren't making anything up. Hill reported yesterday several times - one of his tweets is pasted below - that the AAC games at the Forum would be counted as neutral games. Then someone forward a Jerry Palm tweet saying they were home games. Today, Hill corrected himself. This NET system is new this year, so not surprising there is some confusion in the media.

No ****. Thanks for googling the distance between Nashville and Lexington. Lighten up, sunshine. It'll be ok.

Do you panic when people say "the sky is falling." "It's raining cats and dogs."

NO IT'S NOT. NO IT'S NOT. C'mon over. I'll buy a beer. Let u unwind a bit.
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I need to unwind and I love beer. Can I come over?

(02-28-2019 05:41 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I don't see many of the Big East games and yet I am always surprised at how good they are.

Nova shredded Michigan last year.

I keep hoping they have a couple of down years so we can rename them the Lil East.

(02-28-2019 05:18 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:36 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:25 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:55 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:49 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  Well crap

While disappointing nothing changes with that news.

Upset Cincy on Satruday, beat Tulsa, win 2 in the tourney (temple/ucf and houston).

Do that and they should be in.

Any other scenarios I think would require winning the conf tourney.

Temple/Ucf wont count as a Q1 win if they are considering it home games.

Ok it still changes nothing. Upset Cincy, beat tulsa, then win 2 in the conf tourney and they should be in. Do that their NET will be in the mid 30s, kenpom will prob be somewhere in the 50s, and they would be one of the hottest teams in the country. They would 8-2 in their last 10 and 7-1 in their last 8 in this scenario. With only losses coming to probably Cincinnati in conf championship and ucf on the road.

Any other scenario requires winning the conf tourney.

It's as simple as that. This news doesn't change what they have to do.

This is where we differ. I think doing that just gets us in the bubble conversation. So not being able to count games as a Q1 win will not help. And we need all the help we can get.

It will be really hard to leave Memphis out if they finish 22-12 with a loss to Cincy in the conf championship.

They would have wins in the final 3 weeks or so of the year over a top 25 team, a top 10 team, and two wins over bubble teams. There won't be many teams out there that will have a finish like that.

It's a tall task for sure.

Also I'm not saying they for sure won't be left out as the committee changes what they value more every year, but a finish like that with a NET prob in the mid to upper 30s, a KenPom probably in the 40s, and being 8-2 in last 10 is going to be better than most bubble teams.

Memphis is a 3 seed currently in my NIT bracket and could easily move up.

https://carolinasportsthoughts.wordpress...cketology/

(03-01-2019 09:26 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 05:18 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:36 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:25 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:55 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  While disappointing nothing changes with that news.

Upset Cincy on Satruday, beat Tulsa, win 2 in the tourney (temple/ucf and houston).

Do that and they should be in.

Any other scenarios I think would require winning the conf tourney.

Temple/Ucf wont count as a Q1 win if they are considering it home games.

Ok it still changes nothing. Upset Cincy, beat tulsa, then win 2 in the conf tourney and they should be in. Do that their NET will be in the mid 30s, kenpom will prob be somewhere in the 50s, and they would be one of the hottest teams in the country. They would 8-2 in their last 10 and 7-1 in their last 8 in this scenario. With only losses coming to probably Cincinnati in conf championship and ucf on the road.

Any other scenario requires winning the conf tourney.

It's as simple as that. This news doesn't change what they have to do.

This is where we differ. I think doing that just gets us in the bubble conversation. So not being able to count games as a Q1 win will not help. And we need all the help we can get.

It will be really hard to leave Memphis out if they finish 22-12 with a loss to Cincy in the conf championship.

They would have wins in the final 3 weeks or so of the year over a top 25 team, a top 10 team, and two wins over bubble teams. There won't be many teams out there that will have a finish like that.

It's a tall task for sure.

Also I'm not saying they for sure won't be left out as the committee changes what they value more every year, but a finish like that with a NET prob in the mid to upper 30s, a KenPom probably in the 40s, and being 8-2 in last 10 is going to be better than most bubble teams.

We will find out tomorrow if any of this matters...

We are in a lull in our schedule so this will be a true tale on how much we have improved.

And the measuring stick is not only win or lose. If we are in the game at the end I would say this team has improved tremendously.

(03-01-2019 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

We got our first Quad 1 win.

(03-01-2019 02:30 PM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

We got our first Quad 1 win.

Does it really matter though? It fluctuates so if UCF loses their next 3 games like we hope they do then we WON'T have a Quad 1 win anymore right? lol

(03-01-2019 09:26 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 05:18 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:36 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 04:25 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(02-28-2019 03:55 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  While disappointing nothing changes with that news.

Upset Cincy on Satruday, beat Tulsa, win 2 in the tourney (temple/ucf and houston).

Do that and they should be in.

Any other scenarios I think would require winning the conf tourney.

Temple/Ucf wont count as a Q1 win if they are considering it home games.

Ok it still changes nothing. Upset Cincy, beat tulsa, then win 2 in the conf tourney and they should be in. Do that their NET will be in the mid 30s, kenpom will prob be somewhere in the 50s, and they would be one of the hottest teams in the country. They would 8-2 in their last 10 and 7-1 in their last 8 in this scenario. With only losses coming to probably Cincinnati in conf championship and ucf on the road.

Any other scenario requires winning the conf tourney.

It's as simple as that. This news doesn't change what they have to do.

This is where we differ. I think doing that just gets us in the bubble conversation. So not being able to count games as a Q1 win will not help. And we need all the help we can get.

It will be really hard to leave Memphis out if they finish 22-12 with a loss to Cincy in the conf championship.

They would have wins in the final 3 weeks or so of the year over a top 25 team, a top 10 team, and two wins over bubble teams. There won't be many teams out there that will have a finish like that.

It's a tall task for sure.

Also I'm not saying they for sure won't be left out as the committee changes what they value more every year, but a finish like that with a NET prob in the mid to upper 30s, a KenPom probably in the 40s, and being 8-2 in last 10 is going to be better than most bubble teams.

You are right...But I think they have the AAC slotted for 3-4 teams unless someone strange wins the championship.

So if it plays out they way you see it we will cannibalize one of our conference mates.

The scenario will unfold clearly if Memphis is the 4th/5th seed. Memphis would beat either UCF\Temple giving Memphis the advantage over that team. 3rd seed loses to Cinci and doesn't get any additional quality wins playing USF or ECU.

The second scenario is if we get the 3 seed where we don't get to play either of the other teams again.

(03-01-2019 02:58 PM)memphissince86 Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 02:30 PM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  

(03-01-2019 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

We got our first Quad 1 win.

Does it really matter though? It fluctuates so if UCF loses their next 3 games like we hope they do then we WON'T have a Quad 1 win anymore right? lol

Close loss @ Houston will not hurt them...May acutally help.

Win @Home vs. Cinci would help a them.

Close loss @Temple would hurt.

All would depend on the margins of defeat\victory. They got a good bump (off\def efficiency) beating SMU by 1000.

And honestly if we cant get the 3 seed I want UCF to get it.