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RE: Two steps backward, two steps back
(02-25-2019 10:36 AM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 10:34 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 10:31 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 06:04 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 02:27 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  I’m pretty sure we all know who accountability will fall on, right or wrong, if this thing isn’t anything other than obviously headed in the right direction next year. That being said, young guards in college basketball don’t usually win games consistently. Just a fact.

I’m sort of done over analyzing this situation (for now) and think I’m just going to sit back and see where this goes ON the court next year. I need to see something. I will say the kids’ effort is there. But they don’t know how to win on either side of the court and I don’t think it’s a talent gap. They are in almost every game even with a disastrous defense.

This staff has some major work and self discovery ahead of it. The players do as well.
My favorite summation so far of a disastrous season. There is a shelf life on everything in sport. In this case there is another season to play before drastic changes happen, if they do. As hard as it was to stomach the play defensively of this UNCW team, it's year 3 that will put an end to any debate. Recruiting, style of play and in game coaching. We are all here for the ride next year. My guess is that we will see about 6 new players which is a significant roster change. If it goes sour we are likely to wring our hands and wonder WTF is going on. If it starts to turn in the opposite direction many of us will have to admit we were wrong and did not show the requisite amount of patience for a young-ish team.
However, inept is inept when it comes to defense and there is no plausible excuse to be ranked in the bottom 5 teams in D1. That is on the staff to demand players carry out the game plan. EXECUTION. It was not about being great on defense but rather not losing the same way again and again. Incremental improvements in how we defend the 3pt line, reduce turnovers and play with a sense of urgency was all most fans expected. It is reasonable to be demanding and have high expectations as both a fan and a coach or otherwise you may slowly slip into mediocrity. There are still some important games to play. Play to the whistle no matter the circumstances. Go Hawks!

Agree with most of this... There will be a lot of roster turnover this offseason, so it's hard to have any real expectations for next season yet. IMO we'll lose 5 Cacok, Kalina, O'Connell, Etoroma (Walk-On), Ty Taylor (expected transfer). So far we've added Boggs and Dodd with 4 open scholarships.
you really think Taylor will transfer again, and sit out another year?

He could easily be on track to graduate since this is his 4th year in school.
yeah, if he's graduating, then I think that increases the chances dramatically
02-25-2019 10:37 AM
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RE: Two steps backward, two steps back
(02-25-2019 10:31 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 06:04 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 02:27 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(02-24-2019 09:20 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  And, us not answering as well.

I’m pretty sure we all know who accountability will fall on, right or wrong, if this thing isn’t anything other than obviously headed in the right direction next year. That being said, young guards in college basketball don’t usually win games consistently. Just a fact.

I’m sort of done over analyzing this situation (for now) and think I’m just going to sit back and see where this goes ON the court next year. I need to see something. I will say the kids’ effort is there. But they don’t know how to win on either side of the court and I don’t think it’s a talent gap. They are in almost every game even with a disastrous defense.

This staff has some major work and self discovery ahead of it. The players do as well.
My favorite summation so far of a disastrous season. There is a shelf life on everything in sport. In this case there is another season to play before drastic changes happen, if they do. As hard as it was to stomach the play defensively of this UNCW team, it's year 3 that will put an end to any debate. Recruiting, style of play and in game coaching. We are all here for the ride next year. My guess is that we will see about 6 new players which is a significant roster change. If it goes sour we are likely to wring our hands and wonder WTF is going on. If it starts to turn in the opposite direction many of us will have to admit we were wrong and did not show the requisite amount of patience for a young-ish team.
However, inept is inept when it comes to defense and there is no plausible excuse to be ranked in the bottom 5 teams in D1. That is on the staff to demand players carry out the game plan. EXECUTION. It was not about being great on defense but rather not losing the same way again and again. Incremental improvements in how we defend the 3pt line, reduce turnovers and play with a sense of urgency was all most fans expected. It is reasonable to be demanding and have high expectations as both a fan and a coach or otherwise you may slowly slip into mediocrity. There are still some important games to play. Play to the whistle no matter the circumstances. Go Hawks!

Agree with most of this... There will be a lot of roster turnover this offseason, so it's hard to have any real expectations for next season yet. IMO we'll lose 5 Cacok, Kalina, O'Connell, Etoroma (Walk-On), Ty Taylor (expected transfer). So far we've added Boggs and Dodd with 4 open scholarships.
You can add Fornes to that list I suspect. Unfortunately.
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RE: Two steps backward, two steps back
(02-25-2019 10:37 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 10:31 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 06:04 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 02:27 AM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(02-24-2019 09:20 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  And, us not answering as well.

I’m pretty sure we all know who accountability will fall on, right or wrong, if this thing isn’t anything other than obviously headed in the right direction next year. That being said, young guards in college basketball don’t usually win games consistently. Just a fact.

I’m sort of done over analyzing this situation (for now) and think I’m just going to sit back and see where this goes ON the court next year. I need to see something. I will say the kids’ effort is there. But they don’t know how to win on either side of the court and I don’t think it’s a talent gap. They are in almost every game even with a disastrous defense.

This staff has some major work and self discovery ahead of it. The players do as well.
My favorite summation so far of a disastrous season. There is a shelf life on everything in sport. In this case there is another season to play before drastic changes happen, if they do. As hard as it was to stomach the play defensively of this UNCW team, it's year 3 that will put an end to any debate. Recruiting, style of play and in game coaching. We are all here for the ride next year. My guess is that we will see about 6 new players which is a significant roster change. If it goes sour we are likely to wring our hands and wonder WTF is going on. If it starts to turn in the opposite direction many of us will have to admit we were wrong and did not show the requisite amount of patience for a young-ish team.
However, inept is inept when it comes to defense and there is no plausible excuse to be ranked in the bottom 5 teams in D1. That is on the staff to demand players carry out the game plan. EXECUTION. It was not about being great on defense but rather not losing the same way again and again. Incremental improvements in how we defend the 3pt line, reduce turnovers and play with a sense of urgency was all most fans expected. It is reasonable to be demanding and have high expectations as both a fan and a coach or otherwise you may slowly slip into mediocrity. There are still some important games to play. Play to the whistle no matter the circumstances. Go Hawks!

Agree with most of this... There will be a lot of roster turnover this offseason, so it's hard to have any real expectations for next season yet. IMO we'll lose 5 Cacok, Kalina, O'Connell, Etoroma (Walk-On), Ty Taylor (expected transfer). So far we've added Boggs and Dodd with 4 open scholarships.
You can add Fornes to that list I suspect. Unfortunately.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Fornes stays. He's a 3rd year junior and would have to sit a year to play a year. He's had a dissapointing season for sure, but he has the talent to easily bounce back and be our starting 3 again next season. I think Ty Taylor will transfer out because he's a 4th year junior with a prep year. He's probably set to graduate this spring/summer and would be eligible immediately. Also, Taylor has some mid major programs that would for sure be interested. Eastern Kentucky coach A.W. Hamilton was his coach at Hargrave, and Arkansas State has a couple of connections there too with Coach Stanley and Craig Ponder on staff.
02-25-2019 10:48 AM
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RE: Two steps backward, two steps back
From the original post: You did not get swept by Drexel. You smoked us in Trask.

To the rest of the posts and conversation: There is a clear top 3 and the rest is a big ole jumbled mess from 4-10. So when we are talking about whether a team should feels like its a fifth place team versus a 9th, keep in mind the difference in this conference this year is about 0. Outside of the top 3, I think most can agree no single team is much better or worse than another.
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