SouthernBoiNOLA
Special Teams
Posts: 871
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 69
I Root For: Memphis
Location: New Orleans
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-25-2019 02:00 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: I think the correlation between Martin's draft status and our post-season success is marginal at best. Martin will be evaluated on what he does at team invites and the combine if he goes.
He has a 4-year body of work. Another handful of games isn't going to matter to scouts.
I don't know....Jeremiah Martin's career reminds me of Wally Szczerbiak. 1st 2 years nothing spectacular, but then he took off his last two years, especially his senior year during the NCAA's. If we get in the tourny, a great run by Martin will definitely help his chances.
|
|
02-26-2019 11:49 AM |
|
Tiger87
Hall of Famer
Posts: 19,219
Joined: Jan 2012
Reputation: 1251
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 11:49 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote: (02-25-2019 02:00 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: I think the correlation between Martin's draft status and our post-season success is marginal at best. Martin will be evaluated on what he does at team invites and the combine if he goes.
He has a 4-year body of work. Another handful of games isn't going to matter to scouts.
I don't know....Jeremiah Martin's career reminds me of Wally Szczerbiak. 1st 2 years nothing spectacular, but then he took off his last two years, especially his senior year during the NCAA's. If we get in the tourny, a great run by Martin will definitely help his chances.
I doubt Wally's draft had much to do with the NCAA tourney. He averaged 24 his junior and senior years. He led the NCAA season in scoring and had very good analytics. He was getting drafted no matter what.
A good tourney run sure won't hurt. But it's not the key to JM getting drafted.
|
|
02-26-2019 12:39 PM |
|
thagr82008
Banned
Posts: 5,825
Joined: Feb 2008
I Root For: MEMPHOBABEE
Location: ChadLamontButlerUSA
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
When GM's contact Coach P and ask his insight on how JM skills fit into their system and his abilities at the next level, I'm ALMOST certain that after coach offers his 1cent, that insight could give a tremendous boost to JM draft potential ... #LEGEND #BestPGEVER
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2019 01:10 PM by thagr82008.)
|
|
02-26-2019 01:09 PM |
|
ddramone
All American
Posts: 4,243
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 159
I Root For:
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 11:38 AM)rc0213 Wrote: I would love to have Grizzlies pick up Martin, and, build a great team around him. That'd be a great local story, hometown boy does good in NBA.
Antonio Burks, minus the craziness. Burks was a stud when he was with us: tough, built like a tank, but very, very quick. Too bad his head wasn't screwed on straight.
|
|
02-26-2019 01:27 PM |
|
memphisike
Heisman
Posts: 9,828
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 320
I Root For: memphis tigers
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
I hope all u Dudes r having a good day
I just returned from a dance class and will spend the rest of the day talking to
Various sources to allow me to keep everyone updated
I will be watching the Tigers kick some temple ass tonite and Jerry Martin's NBA stock rising
|
|
02-26-2019 02:48 PM |
|
Briskbas
Heisman
Posts: 6,840
Joined: Apr 2006
Reputation: 297
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Around
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-25-2019 01:34 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: ...
. This version of Martin would be a primary scorer on most NCAA teams outside of the elite few.
This version of Martin isn't allowed to develop in a program with more talent in it.
|
|
02-26-2019 03:06 PM |
|
tiger1016
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11,109
Joined: Sep 2004
Reputation: 445
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Memphis, TN
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 03:06 PM)Briskbas Wrote: (02-25-2019 01:34 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: ...
. This version of Martin would be a primary scorer on most NCAA teams outside of the elite few.
This version of Martin isn't allowed to develop in a program with more talent in it.
Lot of development happens in offseason and just general hard work. No one can say for sure Martin wouldn’t have progressed to what he is now with the right coaching and the hard work he has put in. He can play on any team in the country and be very productive.
|
|
02-26-2019 03:18 PM |
|
TigersTigers
Special Teams
Posts: 689
Joined: Feb 2017
Reputation: 4
I Root For: Tigers
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
Incorrect... I have met and talked to JM and he's is exactly the same height of me at 6 3.
(02-24-2019 01:03 PM)ddramone Wrote: I love JM, but he's probably arou"3nd 6'1" and that means he has to play the point. He'll be guarding the quickest guys in the NBA and he's not a pass-first type of player. I could see him playing well at Portsmouth or the Summer league and being able to sign a free agent contract. The difference between a second round contract and a free agent contract is fairly small.
He'll definitely play professionally somewhere next year, that's for certain.
|
|
02-26-2019 03:47 PM |
|
Keeper
All American
Posts: 3,426
Joined: Aug 2017
Reputation: 204
I Root For: Memphis
Location: memphis
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 03:06 PM)Briskbas Wrote: (02-25-2019 01:34 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: ...
. This version of Martin would be a primary scorer on most NCAA teams outside of the elite few.
This version of Martin isn't allowed to develop in a program with more talent in it.
Peso is good enough for the league. He maybe an all star in the league given the opportunity. Greg Popovich drools to get Peso in the second round. A gunslinger GM (not many of those) might just take him in the first. I hope the Grizzlies are feeling like gunslingers right now.
|
|
02-26-2019 03:58 PM |
|
rc0213
1st String
Posts: 1,131
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 94
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 01:27 PM)ddramone Wrote: (02-26-2019 11:38 AM)rc0213 Wrote: I would love to have Grizzlies pick up Martin, and, build a great team around him. That'd be a great local story, hometown boy does good in NBA.
Antonio Burks, minus the craziness. Burks was a stud when he was with us: tough, built like a tank, but very, very quick. Too bad his head wasn't screwed on straight.
True! AB had more talent. What Martin has is hard working ethics. Steph Curry was not the shooter that he is now for the first few years. I think if Martin finds his confidence, he can be fairly decent shooter. Defending is what he really has to work on.
|
|
02-26-2019 05:54 PM |
|
Briskbas
Heisman
Posts: 6,840
Joined: Apr 2006
Reputation: 297
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Around
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 05:54 PM)rc0213 Wrote: (02-26-2019 01:27 PM)ddramone Wrote: (02-26-2019 11:38 AM)rc0213 Wrote: I would love to have Grizzlies pick up Martin, and, build a great team around him. That'd be a great local story, hometown boy does good in NBA.
Antonio Burks, minus the craziness. Burks was a stud when he was with us: tough, built like a tank, but very, very quick. Too bad his head wasn't screwed on straight.
True! AB had more talent. What Martin has is hard working ethics. Steph Curry was not the shooter that he is now for the first few years. I think if Martin finds his confidence, he can be fairly decent shooter. Defending is what he really has to work on.
Curry averaged .412 from 3 and 25.3 points a game for his college career (.408 and 21.5 as a freshman) and shot .437 from three as a rookie. He also led his team to an Elite Eight as a sophmore.
Burks was an excellent athlete and built like a bull and CUSA player of the year in 04 (when that meant something) is but still just didn’t have the talent to stick in the league. I don’t think having his head screwed on straight had anything to do with it.
(This post was last modified: 02-26-2019 07:05 PM by Briskbas.)
|
|
02-26-2019 07:04 PM |
|
MTigerBlue
Heisman
Posts: 5,579
Joined: Apr 2009
Reputation: 421
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
He can shoot & drive & dish. That's not a bad package. If he didn't have to play defense, he'd be a shoe in.
|
|
02-26-2019 08:04 PM |
|
uskjtc02
Heisman
Posts: 7,631
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 596
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Tunica
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 03:58 PM)Keeper Wrote: (02-26-2019 03:06 PM)Briskbas Wrote: (02-25-2019 01:34 PM)tiger1016 Wrote: ...
. This version of Martin would be a primary scorer on most NCAA teams outside of the elite few.
This version of Martin isn't allowed to develop in a program with more talent in it.
Peso is good enough for the league. He maybe an all star in the league given the opportunity. Greg Popovich drools to get Peso in the second round. A gunslinger GM (not many of those) might just take him in the first. I hope the Grizzlies are feeling like gunslingers right now.
Dude
|
|
02-26-2019 08:25 PM |
|
Tigerspartan
1st String
Posts: 2,054
Joined: Mar 2018
Reputation: 95
I Root For: Tigers
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
Will probably be some scouts in the forum tonight. Quinton Rose is projected to be drafted. Jeremiah can make a statement . ( or continue the statement)
|
|
02-26-2019 08:31 PM |
|
NigelTufnel
Spelling Bee Champiun
Posts: 8,129
Joined: Feb 2006
Reputation: 388
I Root For: Ribs and Beer!
Location: Raleigh, NC
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
Honestly, I'm starting to believe. He just knows how to score. Plus, his defense has been much improved.
I think it took longer for him to recover from his foot injury than he might let on, that was a pretty major injury, and early in the season he looked like he was either thinking about it on the court, or still getting his confidence back, but he has just turned on the jets.
|
|
02-26-2019 11:25 PM |
|
macgar32
Legend
Posts: 32,671
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 758
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Bartlett
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 11:25 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote: Honestly, I'm starting to believe. He just knows how to score. Plus, his defense has been much improved.
I think it took longer for him to recover from his foot injury than he might let on, that was a pretty major injury, and early in the season he looked like he was either thinking about it on the court, or still getting his confidence back, but he has just turned on the jets.
Everyone is being nice...
He was pouting a little bit because he felt he wasn't being featured like he felt he should have been early on. Penny alluded to this when he said that Martin felt disrespected early in the season.
|
|
02-27-2019 09:18 PM |
|
Unionman76
Heisman
Posts: 7,999
Joined: Dec 2006
Reputation: 1351
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Olive Branch, MS
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
martins team 2-0 at portsmouth invitational
will play in finals on saturday
|
|
04-19-2019 09:11 PM |
|
MemphisTigerPawr
Jesus is the risen LORD and Savior
Posts: 23,046
Joined: Oct 2005
Reputation: 1511
I Root For: TIGERS
Location: West Tennessee
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(04-19-2019 09:11 PM)Unionman76 Wrote: martins team 2-0 at portsmouth invitational
will play in finals on saturday
He's played ok but not strong from 3pt range right now. He is getting major minutes.
|
|
04-19-2019 09:23 PM |
|
WiseMan
Banned
Posts: 1,033
Joined: Apr 2019
I Root For: UofM
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-24-2019 03:54 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote: I haven’t seen this discussed much. Would love to hear your opinions. The likes of Tre Young and Curry are showing that small guards can thrive if placed in the right system. Martin is showing that he can dominate as a scorer and distributor. His defense is sneaky good. I’d say his one weakness is open court ball handling. What say y’all?
Martin couldn’t play point at Memphis so he will not play point in NBA. That was his only shot. He is just not big enough to guard the SGs in the NBA. He has long arms but not enough quickness to do it in the league. Just imagine him trying to guard Tyreke, Rudy Gay, Klay Thompson or at the middle of the league you have Will Barton and Brandom Ingram. I could go on.
Rose is 6-8 with good ball handling skills.
(This post was last modified: 04-19-2019 09:39 PM by WiseMan.)
|
|
04-19-2019 09:36 PM |
|
WiseMan
Banned
Posts: 1,033
Joined: Apr 2019
I Root For: UofM
Location:
|
RE: Martins NBA prospects
(02-26-2019 08:31 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote: Will probably be some scouts in the forum tonight. Quinton Rose is projected to be drafted. Jeremiah can make a statement . ( or continue the statement)
Rose is 6-8 with good ball handling skills.
|
|
04-19-2019 09:38 PM |
|