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RE: UC Basketball Historical Records
(02-22-2019 02:07 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 01:27 PM)nachoman91 Wrote:  
(02-20-2019 11:25 AM)jarr Wrote:  Feel free to add or share to this thread, I wanted to compile a list of where UC Basketball stands historically with the rest of the country.

1) All time wins = 1809 Rank #14

To date record (02/20/19) : W 1809 ... L 1012
Current ranking is #14 all time. We are 2 wins behind Arizona, 7 behind Utah, and 18 behind BYU. We will probably pass Arizona this year, possibly Utah to get to #12.


2) NCAA Tournament Appearances = 32
Rank #14
We will likely pass Arkansas and tie Arizona this year for #12 all time.

3) NCAA Tournament Wins = 46 (#16 all time)

4) National Titles = 2 (T- #9 all time)
5) Final Fours = 6 (T- #10 all time)
6) Elite Eights = 8 (#21 all time)
4) Sweet 16s = 13 (#19 all time)

5) Regular Season Conference Championships = 28 (I can’t find a list that compares this to other programs)

6) Conference Tournament Championships = 11 (I can’t find a list that compares this to other programs)

7) Weeks Ranked #1 = 46 (#7 all time)

8) Weeks Ranked #10 = 210 (#13 all time)

9) Weeks Ranked #25 = 430 (#12 all time)

10) Consensus 1st team AA = 8 (#22 all time)

11) National Player of the year = 4 (Oscar x3 and Kenyon -1) ( I can’t find a ranking for this, but I belive we are #3 behind UCLA (7) and Duke (5)

12) Total All Americans (1st, 2nd, 3rd, HM) = 41 (I cannot find a ranking for this, but I imagine it is top 15)

13) NBA Hall of Famers = 2 (T-7th all time)

14) Oscar Robertson (one of the top 5 college basketball players all time, arguably the greatest)

15) First school to go to 3 straight national titles, and first school to go to 5 straight final 4s (UCLA only other school to do so)

This is all well and good but with UC's recent lack of tournament success and playing in a bad conference most of the last 40 years, I'll bet almost everyone under the age of 35 doesn't consider UC a Top 15-ish historical program.

Despite being a consistently winning program for most of the last 20 years, UC's basketball reputation isn't what it could/should be all because they can't advance in the tournament. UC has what, 3 sweet sixteens in the last 20-25 years despite being in the tournament almost every year?

Well most people under 35 are more concerned with social media but if we are discussing true basketball fans yes they would be influenced by the national media machine and their own personal favorites so we probably would be rated lower than what we deserve.

But it is nonsense for you to call The Metro and Conference USA bad conferences.

Even the short lived "Great Midwest" sent two teams to the Elite Eight in '92; one of those two teams we know very well and it advanced to the Final Four.
 
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(02-22-2019 01:12 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(02-20-2019 03:22 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  All time AP composite basketball rankings:
10. Cincinnati

The Bearcats are a bit of a surprise cracking the Top 10, but they have been a very strong team for a while, and were a power throughout the 1990s, when they appeared in 61.25-percent of polls, the AP notes. As conference alignment currently stands, Cincy is the No. 1 program among the “mid-majors,” with Georgetown coming in at No. 15 (depending on what you consider the Big East), and UConn at No. 16.

Not sure who wrote this. Anyone who follows college basketball is not surprised UC comes in at 10. Only thing mid-major about UC is our tv deal.

The commentary came straight from the website where I got the rating from. I included it because it shows ignorance and what we are sometimes up against from a perception standpoint.
 
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(02-22-2019 01:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 01:40 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  UC is the only school in the nation to have a scholarship basketball player win a Cy Young Award.

Any of you other "old farts" remember who it is?

Koufax.

Guy at my gym was on the freshman basketball and baseball team with him. In addition to coaching the freshman basketball team, Jucker was the head baseball coach. Said after the season the didn't have enough pitchers. Sandy told Coach Jucker he could pitch so they had him throw a few pitches in Schmidlapp (now the Dieterle Vocal Arts building). After a couple pitches he was on the team.

Said Sandy threw the ball as hard as anyone he ever saw (this guy played in the minors for 5 years). Was very raw and had no control while at UC. He really improved a lot before he got called up to the Dodgers.


[Image: 90466_sandy_koufax_1954_college_yearbook.jpg]


Koufax is dark haired guy in back row on the right.

You would hit the all-time UC lottery if you knew, and could prove, what uniform number Koufax wore during his baseball playing days at UC. Sandy himself does not remember. And all the research by UC, could not produce his jersey number.

UC would love to retire his number - but they don't know what it is?

I'm a good acquaintance with the man that played 2nd base behind Koufax; but he can't recall. Maybe the SS remembers. lol
 
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(02-23-2019 06:13 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  You would hit the all-time UC lottery if you knew, and could prove, what uniform number Koufax wore during his baseball playing days at UC. Sandy himself does not remember. And all the research by UC, could not produce his jersey number.

UC would love to retire his number - but they don't know what it is?

I'm a good acquaintance with the man that played 2nd base behind Koufax; but he can't recall. Maybe the SS remembers. lol

What, no records were kept? No one has an old lineup card somewhere? No old newspaper article? No photos? Any family members with knowledge? What a cluster eff! If I'm UC, put out a $10,000 (or whatever sum) "reward" to help incentivize solving the mystery.
 
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(02-23-2019 09:15 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(02-23-2019 06:13 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  You would hit the all-time UC lottery if you knew, and could prove, what uniform number Koufax wore during his baseball playing days at UC. Sandy himself does not remember. And all the research by UC, could not produce his jersey number.

UC would love to retire his number - but they don't know what it is?

I'm a good acquaintance with the man that played 2nd base behind Koufax; but he can't recall. Maybe the SS remembers. lol

What, no records were kept? No one has an old lineup card somewhere? No old newspaper article? No photos? Any family members with knowledge? What a cluster eff! If I'm UC, put out a $10,000 (or whatever sum) "reward" to help incentivize solving the mystery.

Crazy...but no. The 2nd baseman and I had a long chat about this a couple years ago. I searched all the internet records I could find for News Record, and Cincinnati papers of the day. Supposedly, and of course its still UC, they have conducted an exhaustive search.

They should just retire his Dodger number 32 and be done with it.
 
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RE: UC Basketball Historical Records
(02-24-2019 05:03 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  
(02-23-2019 09:15 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(02-23-2019 06:13 PM)Ragpicker Wrote:  You would hit the all-time UC lottery if you knew, and could prove, what uniform number Koufax wore during his baseball playing days at UC. Sandy himself does not remember. And all the research by UC, could not produce his jersey number.

UC would love to retire his number - but they don't know what it is?

I'm a good acquaintance with the man that played 2nd base behind Koufax; but he can't recall. Maybe the SS remembers. lol

What, no records were kept? No one has an old lineup card somewhere? No old newspaper article? No photos? Any family members with knowledge? What a cluster eff! If I'm UC, put out a $10,000 (or whatever sum) "reward" to help incentivize solving the mystery.

Crazy...but no. The 2nd baseman and I had a long chat about this a couple years ago. I searched all the internet records I could find for News Record, and Cincinnati papers of the day. Supposedly, and of course its still UC, they have conducted an exhaustive search.

They should just retire his Dodger number 32 and be done with it.

Or retire the number he wore for the basketball team.

The five people that UC need to include in more of their advertising are the Big O, William Howard Taft, Charles G. Dawes, Sandy Koufax, and Neil Armstrong. How many US universities have a Nobel Peace Prize winner as an alum? And I'll bet even on this board less than 1/4 know that UC is one of them.
 
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(02-22-2019 02:07 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  Well most people under 35 are more concerned with social media but if we are discussing true basketball fans yes they would be influenced by the national media machine and their own personal favorites so we probably would be rated lower than what we deserve.

But it is nonsense for you to call The Metro and Conference USA bad conferences.

If they would have just played football in the Metro, it could have been one of the great conferences.

Think of these schools that were in the conference in 1978:
Cincinnati
Georgia Tech
Louisville
Memphis State
Saint Louis
Tulane
Florida State

Virginia Tech, Southern Mississippi and South Carolina joined later.

That is a heck of a basketball slate, and pretty nice in football, too. St. Louis left fairly early, but that conference should then have been able to pick up a decent football school if that was a league sport.
 
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Raycom was trying to form a super conference in 1990. If only it had worked out. Here are the teams they wanted:

Boston College
East Carolina
Cincinnati
Florida State
Pittsburgh
Louisville
Rutgers
Memphis State
Syracuse
Miami
Temple
South Carolina
Virginia Tech
Southern Mississippi
West Virginia
Tulane
 
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Update: UC is now tied with Arizona for 13th in all time wins at 1813.
 
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Only once in the last 30 years has a UC team allowed 70 or more PPG in a season; 71.3 in 1994-95. That's pretty remarkable!
 
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