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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
(02-19-2019 09:02 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(02-19-2019 08:59 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Actually since we're parsing words here a few important things.

Austin is often only semi right. I like the guy but he's known for being off just a little bit from where things actually are.

We have tiers. ESPN will be the primary holder of one.

Just a shot in the dark. ESPN has bid a healthy chunk on the top 10-20 games. We are roughly two weeks from the exclusive period wrapping up. Unless this deal is blow your socks off we will at least coast out of the exclusive period. I doubt we sign the deal unless we have landing spots for all of our tiers, meaning that we are backing into the open market with a crucial bottom line already known and only capable of going up.


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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
So what type of number would it take for people here to be ok with signing tier 1 prior to the window opening?
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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
(02-19-2019 08:59 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Actually since we're parsing words here a few important things.

Austin is often only semi right. I like the guy but he's known for being off just a little bit from where things actually are.

We have tiers. ESPN will be the primary holder of one.

Just a shot in the dark. ESPN has bid a healthy chunk on the top 10-20 games. We are roughly two weeks from the exclusive period wrapping up. Unless this deal is blow your socks off we will at least coast out of the exclusive period. I doubt we sign the deal unless we have landing spots for all of our tiers, meaning that we are backing into the open market with a crucial bottom line already known and only capable of going up.

Excellent points. I had kinda eliminated the possibility of any kind of deal other than an "all in with ESPN" deal being likely during the exclusive negotiating period--but your right. Something like you suggest is possible.
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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
Aresco negotiating with ESPN...




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Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
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(02-19-2019 09:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So what type of number would it take for people here to be ok with signing tier 1 prior to the window opening?

Would depend on what tier one was, is it ten or twenty games? Somewhere in between?

What kind of exposure is guaranteed. Strictly a weeknight show case? One week night game one Saturday game a week? Is some of it coming back to the schools control or will we package it all out in tiers? Just football? Just football and men's basketball?

There is no where enough details to have any idea what this means yet. We barely have a fact to start hypothesizing off of. Ok three facts if we believe Austin got it right.

We have tiers.

ESPN has bid at least on tier 1.

The third fact is actually known. We have an exclusive bargaining period that ends March second or third.

Although to be honest we also know Aresco shopped around the Navy tier and that would give a lot of wiggle room on exclusive periods. Say if CBSsports said we could maybe move a game to CBS if it was of such and such type quality or if we could get some basketball to go with it we could accomadate this or that. Of course NBC would have been approached with Navy/ND on the table where something like we really need a package of ten or twelve games to make this work might have come up.
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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
Video of the ESPN-Aresco negotiations just surfaced:

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(02-19-2019 09:20 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Video of the ESPN-Aresco negotiations just surfaced:

[Image: DwKXcQE.gif]


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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
I’ll venture a guess that you will be all in with ESPN as they need you for ESPN+.
I think there will be no games licensed to CBSSN since they launched the + platform.
However, you will have some games on ABC.
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(02-19-2019 09:20 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Video of the ESPN-Aresco negotiations just surfaced:

[Image: DwKXcQE.gif]

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(02-19-2019 09:10 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-19-2019 08:59 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Actually since we're parsing words here a few important things.

Austin is often only semi right. I like the guy but he's known for being off just a little bit from where things actually are.

We have tiers. ESPN will be the primary holder of one.

Just a shot in the dark. ESPN has bid a healthy chunk on the top 10-20 games. We are roughly two weeks from the exclusive period wrapping up. Unless this deal is blow your socks off we will at least coast out of the exclusive period. I doubt we sign the deal unless we have landing spots for all of our tiers, meaning that we are backing into the open market with a crucial bottom line already known and only capable of going up.

Excellent points. I had kinda eliminated the possibility of any kind of deal other than an "all in with ESPN" deal being likely during the exclusive negotiating period--but your right. Something like you suggest is possible.


It's also a smart move by ESPN, remember the difficulty they had in getting an exact match out of the NBC offer. The current offer could be a trojan horse deal that inherently makes those prime games more expensive if bought as a smaller package or require such a massive amount of expansions to make the numbers work that they may have ensured they retain at least some valuable inventory from the offer.

This floor clause like the right to match clause can be set up in tricky ways that may make the open market a carefully laid espn defensive minefield for other media companies and the AAC to navigate with little surprises cropping up along the way with no real ability to forecast their effect.
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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
I highly doubt that Aresco would go all in on ESPN if the conference would be deligated to ESPN+. That would be asking to be fired. The Presidents wouldn't allow it. Remember that the University Presidents have to sign off on the contract.
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This is going to be great. For years we were ridiculously undervalued due to the 'perfect storm' bad situation when we negotiated the first time. now we have history, on the field success, and ratings wins. We will get a huge raise. Going to be great to get this monkey off our backs. Frankly I half expected ESPN to break us up again rather than pay us.
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(02-19-2019 09:24 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I’ll venture a guess that you will be all in with ESPN as they need you for ESPN+.
I think there will be no games licensed to CBSSN since they launched the + platform.
However, you will have some games on ABC.

I'm going to guess, that you will be mistaken, by quite a bit.

This would tend to indicate that ESPN wants the cream and the crumbs. They will take what they think will give them the biggest return, allow Aresco to shop the rest and get what ever money he can, then low ball what ever inventory is left to put on ESPN+ for cheap knowing they are the only 'national broadcast' option and betting we can't sell it to local/regionals.

Essentially they are gambling that our mid and low tier values aren't high enough to cost them anything if they miss out on them. They are also confident that most other media entities will not have the space to put all of our content, like say tennis, baseball, soccer, golf.

If anything this approach would suggest they are attempting to ward off NBC, or force NBC to go all in and back the AAC as a tent pole for its sports properties. I find it difficult to see NBC taking the second tier value on this, but CBSsports would. The big risk is Aresco going to NBC and CBS with modified tiers from what ESPN offers in such a way that the overall package is higher than ESPN's floor, accounts for all inventory, but is financially beneficial to NBC and CBS (most likely splitting the basketball and football games apart would do this). Than ESPN would be forced to bring a counter offer of substance or risk losing some of the exclusivity they have built for ESPN+ and gamble that the product they move over will return similar ratings on roughly 30 timeslots a year the AAC currently fills, often with a million plus viewers.

Aresco is positioning for a multiple bids with minimal risks and he has been doing it since he started shopping Navy last year. Will it work?
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I am guessing it’s a weeknight package plus basketball and maybe one Saturday football game.
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(02-19-2019 08:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  


Wow. Bomb shell dropped there. This guy usually knows less than nothing. 07-coffee3
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(02-19-2019 08:40 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  We are going to get hosed. Thanks Mike. Good job.


He will be blathering about exposure again....watch.

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RE: Austin Cox: AAC close to new deal with ESPN for Tier 1
So Austin Cox, the same guy who said Cincinnati and UCF were B12 locks, says a deal is done two weeks before a deadline everyone knows is coming but he has no details on numbers or dates or anything and the little girls here all start shrieking and bubbling. Sounds right. Carry on.
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My sources are saying $32.4 million each.
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