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(02-14-2019 09:12 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Pretty sure we quit caring what the Brits think back in 1776

Beat me to it!
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(02-14-2019 10:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I see no one is challenging the scathing description of Trump, which is pretty much spot on. Instead, Trumpophiles fall back to 1776 banter and braggadocio.

Looks like the arrow hit the mark.

We knew what kind of person Trump was before we voted for him. It's not like he hasn't been in the public eye extensively for the past 35 years or so.

Unlike you we just don't give a **** if the Brits or anybody else in the world "likes" our President.
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Why should we worry about what other countries think? They don’t care what we think, they take our money, and curse us.
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(02-14-2019 10:44 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:20 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:05 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:01 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 09:15 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  I'm sure Trump isn't popular in most or all of Europe.

Europeans are fed up with illegal immigration from Africa, refugees and the overall immigration policies that their governments have forced upon them for a very long time.

And yet none of them have elected anybody like Trump. They all act like actual adults.
Lots of European countries have elected leaders like Trump. Hell even 10 years ago Dems were anti illegal immigration.

Across Europe, populism is growing on both the left and the right—but it has much more momentum on the right. In a sign of the political times, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker used his final State of the Union speech this week to denounce “unhealthy nationalism.” Here, five European countries witnessing the rise of the far-right:
http://time.com/5395444/europe-far-right...e-germany/


BRUSSELS — Belgium’s prime minister, under pressure from the right and left, submitted his resignation Tuesday in the face of a populist revolt over his migration policy, which opponents say threatens Belgian sovereignty.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/world...lapse.html

Europe and nationalism: A country-by-country guide
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/s...45623.html

Italy, Austria, Hungary, Poland, Slovenia, Sweden etc and more going right.

Sweden faces hung parliament as far-right makes big gains
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/eu...-1.3623956

Did you miss Brexit by chance?

None of this has anything to do with the kind of person Trump is. I'm not talking policies, for the most part. And neither was the Brit in the OP.

I love it. It's a spin on "character matters". Remember back when Clinton was a gross embarrassment and the people were told character doesn't matter and that we should just focus on the results? Well...just like in the racist VA governor thread where we discussed how the Dem's opened Pandora's box, they also opened it here...
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(02-14-2019 10:48 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:44 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Poland is the future of Europe. I don't think old Europe can be saved at this point.

what's problematic in all this is that destruction will lead to the eventual destruction of the USD>...

these fks don't give two shites about promotion of commerce and humanity....

it's all and ONLY about some dipshite invisible man in the sky.....

they'll do whatever it takes to gain a flock at any cost....

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I have a theory about that.

1) The USD will be too big to fail, and probably more importantly most of the world currencies will be in the same boat by then.

2) I have this suspicion that at the end of the day, China is going be left holding the bag...or the hot potato if you prefer that analogy.
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China has one big problem. They cannot survive without Middle East oil. Their economy crashes and they starve. And until somebody figures out how to build a pipeline over the Himalayas, they are totally dependent on a sea route through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca, and through the South China Sea. Right now they can secure only the South China Sea part, and the rest is subject to high risks (pirates in Malacca, India doesn't like them, and Iran in Hormuz). They are almost totally dependent on the US Navy to secure their lifeline. One would think they should make nicer to us, but they don't.

India and/or Indonesia could destroy the Chinese economy if they chose to do so.
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(02-15-2019 01:19 PM)miko33 Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:48 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:44 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Poland is the future of Europe. I don't think old Europe can be saved at this point.

what's problematic in all this is that destruction will lead to the eventual destruction of the USD>...

these fks don't give two shites about promotion of commerce and humanity....

it's all and ONLY about some dipshite invisible man in the sky.....

they'll do whatever it takes to gain a flock at any cost....

#violentmantra

I have a theory about that.

1) The USD will be too big to fail, and probably more importantly most of the world currencies will be in the same boat by then.

2) I have this suspicion that at the end of the day, China is going be left holding the bag...or the hot potato if you prefer that analogy.

1) I lean in that favor with reservation...the more US debt foreign nations acquire and coupled with tech advancement, the more a currency revolution becomes an option

2) China is my main concern

one positive (and there are many) in our favor is the cossacks are in the middle....that's a large land mass to traverse that basically have shared resources between europe and china....that's a current equalizing mechanism...

toss in the cultural division among that land mass, and it's advantage USA....

my biggest concern is wealth division from within our own land mass.....and the democrats are doing everything they can to destroy real valuation from coast to coast....
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is this why Dems don't want voter ID? They want brits to vote for our President?
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Don't they have enough of their own peoples' rights to suppress without meddling in our affairs?
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(02-14-2019 08:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

Nate White, a witty writer from England wrote the perfect response.

“A few things spring to mind…

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll.

And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’

is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;

He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****.

His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”


I thought British writing was supposed to be classy, wry, witty—delivered with a keen sense of humor. This comes off as a hate filled rant by a 15 year old AOC supporter. How disappointing.
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Proof that WWII culled the gene pool in Great Britain to unrecoverable cuckdom

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Libs are obsessed with what Europe thinks of the USA. Who has the highest % of hipster cucks who will never get married...............let the fight begin.
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(02-14-2019 10:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I see no one is challenging the scathing description of Trump, which is pretty much spot on. Instead, Trumpophiles fall back to 1776 banter and braggadocio.

Looks like the arrow hit the mark.

You can’t argue with stupid.....
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(02-14-2019 10:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I see no one is challenging the scathing description of Trump, which is pretty much spot on. Instead, Trumpophiles fall back to 1776 banter and braggadocio.

Looks like the arrow hit the mark.

It's one person's opinion. They don't think he's funny or charming. So what?

All you're proving is that the left and at least THIS brit is more interested in style than substance.

How much time do you waste arguing with Trump supporters who think he's brilliant?
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Go back and re-read the first few paragraphs. Obama was cool but worthless so therefore we like him. Trump is rude but gets sh*t done, oh how we loath him.
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(02-15-2019 01:06 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:11 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I see no one is challenging the scathing description of Trump, which is pretty much spot on. Instead, Trumpophiles fall back to 1776 banter and braggadocio.

Looks like the arrow hit the mark.

We knew what kind of person Trump was before we voted for him. It's not like he hasn't been in the public eye extensively for the past 35 years or so.

Unlike you we just don't give a **** if the Brits or anybody else in the world "likes" our President.

This! Not a big fan of his style, like his policies. DO NOT care what the Brits think. They have more pressing issues in their country than Donald Trump, particularly given he’s not a politician in their country. Piss off!
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(02-15-2019 06:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 08:57 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”

Nate White, a witty writer from England wrote the perfect response.

“A few things spring to mind…

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll.

And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think

‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’

is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form;

He is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****.

His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

‘My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”


I thought British writing was supposed to be classy, wry, witty—delivered with a keen sense of humor. This comes off as a hate filled rant by a 15 year old AOC supporter. How disappointing.


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(02-16-2019 09:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Libs are obsessed with what Europe thinks of the USA. Who has the highest % of hipster cucks who will never get married...............let the fight begin.

This situation completely mirrors the whole issue with the radical left. Here's how:

The United States has heavily subsidized Europe since WWII by providing them with the lions share of the force necessary to keep Communism from spreading into their precious little world. Not having to provide the bulk of investment for their own defense is a massive subsidy for what is normally a fat slice of any nation state's domestic budget. Yet who does the left turn to for criticism? Those we pay to protect.

Here we are trying to protect the citizens who pay the taxes and expect their government to provide as much diligence on our borders as they have done for 7 decades in Europe. Yet who does the radical left turn to for criticism? Yep the damned illegals trying to cross our borders so they too can get a subsidy courtesy of the tax payers of the U.S..

And internally who to the Radical Left Dems turn to for support and criticism of the nation? The vast majority of their support comes from those here legally that rely upon subsidy from the rest of us. We pay for their babies through WIC, we pay for their welfare, provide a portion of taxes for their healthcare, and through property and sales tax pay for their education (which the Dems turn into a hate productive America fest).

When Shere Kahn keeps reminding you that Dems hate America here is the proof of his assertion.

The Radical Left sides with every freeloading bellyacher who hates and loathes their benefactors. This type of personality disorder is common among those who know they rely upon others for their living or a portion of it. It is what Marxism feeds off of. Play to that dysfunction and the freeloading bellyaching masses might give you power. But when you grab that power the lazy non productive bellyachers are the first to get purged. Even the damned Communists know they don't have a chance to accomplish anything when they have so many they have to subsidize. For communism to have even a prayer of succeeding the state needs to profit off of the labor of their (whole) population.

It disgusts me that so many Americans have lost the common sense to see this for what it is. But when the schools constantly teach our young that their self esteem is measured by their compassion for the laggards of the world, and even worse teach them that the cultures and world views of the laggards are the ones they need to adopt, what we are getting is a recipe for failure being sold to our kids. Piss on that!

And if we are so damned stupid as to continue to permit this insanity then we deserve what we get.

If not for the United States Europe would have been toast years ago. If not for the natural compassion of the citizens of this country there would be no legal immigration. If not for the natural compassion of the citizens of this country there would be no social welfare, or WIC, or any other form of assistance. And to all of the liberals who want to blame White American Males (and honestly it should be all Tax Paying Self Sufficient Citizens) none of the opinions of the ignorant gripers would even be heard because none of them would be here and the Europeans would have been under Fascism or Communism by now if not for the sacrifice of lives, limbs, and income by the Tax Paying Self Sufficient Citizens of this country the majority of which are white and majority of which fought and died for the opportunities of those who ***** about us.

So the only conclusion that a reasonable person can make is that the Radical Left (now the Democratic Party) is only filled with people who are dedicated to destroying our freedoms, empowering our enemies, and attacking our productive by using their natural compassion against them and filling their children's heads with lies.
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I'll start caring about what the Brits think when... Oh wait, I'll never care what they think.
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(02-16-2019 05:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-16-2019 09:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Libs are obsessed with what Europe thinks of the USA. Who has the highest % of hipster cucks who will never get married...............let the fight begin.

This situation completely mirrors the whole issue with the radical left. Here's how:

The United States has heavily subsidized Europe since WWII by providing them with the lions share of the force necessary to keep Communism from spreading into their precious little world. Not having to provide the bulk of investment for their own defense is a massive subsidy for what is normally a fat slice of any nation state's domestic budget. Yet who does the left turn to for criticism? Those we pay to protect.

Here we are trying to protect the citizens who pay the taxes and expect their government to provide as much diligence on our borders as they have done for 7 decades in Europe. Yet who does the radical left turn to for criticism? Yep the damned illegals trying to cross our borders so they too can get a subsidy courtesy of the tax payers of the U.S..

And internally who to the Radical Left Dems turn to for support and criticism of the nation? The vast majority of their support comes from those here legally that rely upon subsidy from the rest of us. We pay for their babies through WIC, we pay for their welfare, provide a portion of taxes for their healthcare, and through property and sales tax pay for their education (which the Dems turn into a hate productive America fest).

When Shere Kahn keeps reminding you that Dems hate America here is the proof of his assertion.

The Radical Left sides with every freeloading bellyacher who hates and loathes their benefactors. This type of personality disorder is common among those who know they rely upon others for their living or a portion of it. It is what Marxism feeds off of. Play to that dysfunction and the freeloading bellyaching masses might give you power. But when you grab that power the lazy non productive bellyachers are the first to get purged. Even the damned Communists know they don't have a chance to accomplish anything when they have so many they have to subsidize. For communism to have even a prayer of succeeding the state needs to profit off of the labor of their (whole) population.

It disgusts me that so many Americans have lost the common sense to see this for what it is. But when the schools constantly teach our young that their self esteem is measured by their compassion for the laggards of the world, and even worse teach them that the cultures and world views of the laggards are the ones they need to adopt, what we are getting is a recipe for failure being sold to our kids. Piss on that!

And if we are so damned stupid as to continue to permit this insanity then we deserve what we get.

If not for the United States Europe would have been toast years ago. If not for the natural compassion of the citizens of this country there would be no legal immigration. If not for the natural compassion of the citizens of this country there would be no social welfare, or WIC, or any other form of assistance. And to all of the liberals who want to blame White American Males (and honestly it should be all Tax Paying Self Sufficient Citizens) none of the opinions of the ignorant gripers would even be heard because none of them would be here and the Europeans would have been under Fascism or Communism by now if not for the sacrifice of lives, limbs, and income by the Tax Paying Self Sufficient Citizens of this country the majority of which are white and majority of which fought and died for the opportunities of those who ***** about us.

So the only conclusion that a reasonable person can make is that the Radical Left (now the Democratic Party) is only filled with people who are dedicated to destroying our freedoms, empowering our enemies, and attacking our productive by using their natural compassion against them and filling their children's heads with lies.

You can speak for me any time. Excellent!

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