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Everett Withers and Butch Davis renunited
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Bet the over in every FIU game!!!
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How how how does this guy get jobs coaching...let alone DC?
02-13-2019 08:24 PM
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(02-13-2019 08:24 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  How how how does this guy get jobs coaching...let alone DC?

This really tells me more about BD than EW. EW is simply one of those people we all have in our lives who never go away no matter the success or lack thereof.
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I can’t wait until he gets fired again. I can only hope his ego takes a shot each time.
02-13-2019 09:22 PM
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(02-13-2019 08:24 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  How how how does this guy get jobs coaching...let alone DC?

He must have incriminating photos on people. That was the only way I could fathom the repeated hiring of Alex Wood as well.
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(02-13-2019 10:01 PM)olddawg Wrote:  
(02-13-2019 08:24 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  How how how does this guy get jobs coaching...let alone DC?

He must have incriminating photos on people. That was the only way I could fathom the repeated hiring of Alex Wood as well.

It such a small niche job that it becomes a club. It isn't like you can apply off the street or with similar experience on your resume like you can in so many business roles.
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The guy is not a defensive mind, but yet has a DC job. Interesting. Perhaps knowing offensive schemes will help defend against those??
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Is this board Nostradamus or what? We said Texas State was going to be the last head coaching gig of his career and we were right.

CUSA fans rejoice. FIU’s defense is about to go down the crapper. You’ll be able to walk into the end zone.
02-14-2019 07:45 AM
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Investment opportunity of a decade

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(02-13-2019 11:40 PM)hburg Wrote:  The guy is not a defensive mind, but yet has a DC job. Interesting. Perhaps knowing offensive schemes will help defend against those??

Hahahahaha! Bawahahaha!
EW knows schemes? 03-lmfao

He was pretty good at recruiting, and finding sharp young offensive minds from the OSU factory. He sells “juice” but can’t actually produce it himself.

Thought he had a better shot at being a good HC than DC. Beyond ego, the biggest problem he had was believing he knew how to run a defense. Apparently he got BD to believe that too for at least a year or two. FIU may set new records for points allowed.
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To be fair, our defense this past year was pretty solid for the most part. I mean we held Troy and GS to 12 and 15 points respectively
02-14-2019 10:24 AM
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Oh well, best of luck to EW....perhaps he will fare better when not the HC without all the PR & media responsibilities and can primarily just focus on football.

He cashed in, and just goes to show you....once you are in the coaching fraternity you always have a job.
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Party in the FIU end zone
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(02-14-2019 10:29 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  Oh well, best of luck to EW....perhaps he will fare better when not the HC without all the PR & media responsibilities and can primarily just focus on football.

He cashed in, and just goes to show you....once you are in the coaching fraternity you always have a job.

Kinda like in baseball, where you can perform horribly as a manager, yet resurface a couple of years later with a new head gig.

Buddy Bell was a great example. 3 years in Detroit w/ a sterling .399 winning percentage. Inexplicably, two other MLB clubs hired him as Manager where he duplicated his piss poor performance. He lasted 9 years w/ a .418 winning percentage.
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Withers is not a good defensive coach, but he sure knows how to sell himself.
Perhaps Butch will use him differently. He has to like something about him if he wants him back. The level at which he has failed on defense practically everywhere he's gone is head scratching to say the least. If he was brought in as the head of recruiting or something I'd completely understand.
History is not on his side when it comes to succeeding on defense. I think it's safe to say FIU's defense will be just as bad as any other defense he's coached.
Some FIU fans are trying to support the hire saying head coach is different from DC. In that fact I think we can all agree. But when you are a defensive or offensive guy, that part of your team should be solid. When you're a defensive coach and the defense is THE major weakness, there's a major problem.
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(02-14-2019 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  To be fair, our defense this past year was pretty solid for the most part. I mean we held Troy and GS to 12 and 15 points respectively

To be honest our defense the two years under Withers was easily the worst in JMU history.
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(02-14-2019 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  To be fair, our defense this past year was pretty solid for the most part. I mean we held Troy and GS to 12 and 15 points respectively

Some Texas State Defensive Stats and their rank nationally in D1A (out of 130 programs)...

Scoring D: 27.7 ppg, 74th

Total D: 5.3 yards per play, 45th

Rushing D: 4.55 yards per rush, 81st

Passing D: 6.2 yards per attempt, 21st

3rd Down Conversion D: 39.0%, 69th

Interceptions: 0.5 per game, 112th

Fumbles Recovered: 60% of opponents fumbles recovered, 25th

Fumbles Forced: 1.17 per game, 16th

Sacks: 1.25 per game, 119th

Tackles for Loss: 4.83 per game, 110th
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(02-14-2019 11:35 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  To be fair, our defense this past year was pretty solid for the most part. I mean we held Troy and GS to 12 and 15 points respectively

To be honest our defense the two years under Withers was easily the worst in JMU history.

Rip Scherer's defenses were much worse. We had great offenses with him but were always in a shootout.
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(02-14-2019 02:02 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 11:35 AM)Dukester Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 10:24 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  To be fair, our defense this past year was pretty solid for the most part. I mean we held Troy and GS to 12 and 15 points respectively

To be honest our defense the two years under Withers was easily the worst in JMU history.

Rip Scherer's defenses were much worse. We had great offenses with him but were always in a shootout.

EW: 18-7 (0.72) at JMU
RS: 29-19 (0.60) at JMU

Funny how much our standards have gone up over time. In the Alex Wood timeframe, RS was seen by most as a good coach. We were not as happy with EW, even though he had a better W/L record. If CC's record looks like EW with early playoff exits, he might be run out with pitchforks. Not that I think there is any chance of that happening.
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