RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 05:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:
(02-13-2019 03:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: As if its already been a disaster month for the left, its about to get much worse.
Rep. Devin Nunes stopped by ‘Hannity’ Tuesday night to weigh-in on a series of scandals including FISA abuse and lying to Congress; confirming many “criminal referrals” are coming in the weeks ahead.
“We need the new Attorney General to get in there and then we’ll be making criminal referrals on many people who lied to Congress and did many bad things,” he added.
Sadly Criminal Referrals do nothing on their own if the DOJ doesnt want to do anything. You can be guilty as hell, and even make a public confession... if the DOJ choses not to charge you... you're free.
The rule of law must be enforced by the gov against people who abuse their power or who are politicians that break the law. If the gov doesn't... it breeds contempt for the law and shows that there are two legal systems in our country. One for the political elites... and one for everyone else.
which is when we find out if Bennett is already paid off....
You'll have to find out somewhere other than MSNBC and CNN. They'll have half the Obama administration locked up by the time CNN and MSNBC finally realize Russia Russia Russia aint happening.
Ive been saying this is the real Watergate level story....and the Washington media has largely whiffed on it because it doesnt fit their desired narrative. Sad that journalism is so dead that even Watergate level scandal doesnt motivate somebody to go win a Pulitzer. A 1970's era Woodward and Berstein would have covered this regardless of party. Different times I guess....
They all wrote books and made millions off the gullible instead. Actual reporting or committing journalism can be hard work. Tain't have us any of that these days.
(This post was last modified: 02-13-2019 05:59 PM by JMUDunk.)
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 05:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:
(02-13-2019 03:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: As if its already been a disaster month for the left, its about to get much worse.
Rep. Devin Nunes stopped by ‘Hannity’ Tuesday night to weigh-in on a series of scandals including FISA abuse and lying to Congress; confirming many “criminal referrals” are coming in the weeks ahead.
“We need the new Attorney General to get in there and then we’ll be making criminal referrals on many people who lied to Congress and did many bad things,” he added.
Sadly Criminal Referrals do nothing on their own if the DOJ doesnt want to do anything. You can be guilty as hell, and even make a public confession... if the DOJ choses not to charge you... you're free.
The rule of law must be enforced by the gov against people who abuse their power or who are politicians that break the law. If the gov doesn't... it breeds contempt for the law and shows that there are two legal systems in our country. One for the political elites... and one for everyone else.
I'd say it's safe to say we've already seen plenty of that. And unfortunately it's really nothing too new.
Now, the size and scope of it appears to have been more plentiful in this last admin, we'll see what the remedy is.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 05:56 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(02-13-2019 05:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:
(02-13-2019 03:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: As if its already been a disaster month for the left, its about to get much worse.
Rep. Devin Nunes stopped by ‘Hannity’ Tuesday night to weigh-in on a series of scandals including FISA abuse and lying to Congress; confirming many “criminal referrals” are coming in the weeks ahead.
“We need the new Attorney General to get in there and then we’ll be making criminal referrals on many people who lied to Congress and did many bad things,” he added.
Sadly Criminal Referrals do nothing on their own if the DOJ doesnt want to do anything. You can be guilty as hell, and even make a public confession... if the DOJ choses not to charge you... you're free.
The rule of law must be enforced by the gov against people who abuse their power or who are politicians that break the law. If the gov doesn't... it breeds contempt for the law and shows that there are two legal systems in our country. One for the political elites... and one for everyone else.
I'd say it's safe to say we've already seen plenty of that. And unfortunately it's really nothing too new.
Now, the size and scope of it appears to have been more plentiful in this last admin, we'll see what the remedy is.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
As long as Mueller has not finished up his finial report....
you will not see movement on Criminal Referrals for FISA abuse or any other Criminal Referrals. If it's going to happen it will come out after Mueller is finished digging under every rock....which he most likely has at this point. But no other investigation will take place till it's official. Anything while the loony left and MSM that is still screaming Russia Russia Russia ....
They will say Trump is using this to put pressure on not charging him. It will give the MSM something to cover and point to instead of any charges that comes from this.
So we are still months and months off...maybe drugged out till the 2020 election hoping a new President and AG is in office. Then it will be drop. I dont think the AG will have the balls to start this before Mueller is finished...if at all.
(This post was last modified: 02-13-2019 06:12 PM by WKUYG.)
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: As long as Mueller has not finished up his finial report....
you will not see movement on Criminal Referrals for FISA abuse or any other Criminal Referrals. If it's going to happen it will come out after Mueller is finished digging under every rock....which he most likely has at this point. But no other investigation will take place till it's official. Anything while the loony left and MSM that is still screaming Russia Russia Russia ....
They will say Trump is using this to put pressure on not charging him. It will give the MSM something to cover and point to instead of any charges that comes from this.
So we are still months and months off...maybe drugged out till the 2020 election hoping a new President and AG is in office. Then it will be drop. I dont think the AG will have the balls to start this before Mueller is finished...if at all.
You'll have to find out somewhere other than MSNBC and CNN. They'll have half the Obama administration locked up by the time CNN and MSNBC finally realize Russia Russia Russia aint happening.
Ive been saying this is the real Watergate level story....and the Washington media has largely whiffed on it because it doesnt fit their desired narrative. Sad that journalism is so dead that even Watergate level scandal doesnt motivate somebody to go win a Pulitzer. A 1970's era Woodward and Berstein would have covered this regardless of party. Different times I guess....
Given the 'sources' for all of the Russia stuff the left still trots out, these are at least as credible as those
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: As long as Mueller has not finished up his finial report....
you will not see movement on Criminal Referrals for FISA abuse or any other Criminal Referrals. If it's going to happen it will come out after Mueller is finished digging under every rock....which he most likely has at this point. But no other investigation will take place till it's official. Anything while the loony left and MSM that is still screaming Russia Russia Russia ....
They will say Trump is using this to put pressure on not charging him. It will give the MSM something to cover and point to instead of any charges that comes from this.
So we are still months and months off...maybe drugged out till the 2020 election hoping a new President and AG is in office. Then it will be drop. I dont think the AG will have the balls to start this before Mueller is finished...if at all.
I don't know, It doesn't seem to me that Barr is the type to play these games. Seemed pretty no-nonsense in the confirmation hearings.
Also wouldn't surprise me to hear that a lot of this work has been underway by the hard working rank and file for some time now. One thing I DO know, is that the guys "on the job" hate the guys at the top that turn all political and try to circumvent this or interfere in that.
You'll have to find out somewhere other than MSNBC and CNN. They'll have half the Obama administration locked up by the time CNN and MSNBC finally realize Russia Russia Russia aint happening.
Ive been saying this is the real Watergate level story....and the Washington media has largely whiffed on it because it doesnt fit their desired narrative. Sad that journalism is so dead that even Watergate level scandal doesnt motivate somebody to go win a Pulitzer. A 1970's era Woodward and Berstein would have covered this regardless of party. Different times I guess....
Given the 'sources' for all of the Russia stuff the left still trots out, these are at least as credible as those
How dare you talk smack about VOX, Mother Jones, Salon, A random message board, blog, opinion column, or Twitter account.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(02-13-2019 06:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: As long as Mueller has not finished up his finial report....
you will not see movement on Criminal Referrals for FISA abuse or any other Criminal Referrals. If it's going to happen it will come out after Mueller is finished digging under every rock....which he most likely has at this point. But no other investigation will take place till it's official. Anything while the loony left and MSM that is still screaming Russia Russia Russia ....
They will say Trump is using this to put pressure on not charging him. It will give the MSM something to cover and point to instead of any charges that comes from this.
So we are still months and months off...maybe drugged out till the 2020 election hoping a new President and AG is in office. Then it will be drop. I dont think the AG will have the balls to start this before Mueller is finished...if at all.
I don't know, It doesn't seem to me that Barr is the type to play these games. Seemed pretty no-nonsense in the confirmation hearings.
Also wouldn't surprise me to hear that a lot of this work has been underway by the hard working rank and file for some time now. One thing I DO know, is that the guys "on the job" hate the guys at the top that turn all political and try to circumvent this or interfere in that.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 04:50 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(02-13-2019 04:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-13-2019 03:54 PM)stinkfist Wrote: tick-toc to '20....
it's unfortunate Sessions was a vaj in that position....
we should've had indictments by now...
Sounds like that may have been the reason for the delay. Sessions was recused, and Rosenstein is caught up in it.
Yup.
Rosenstein was the last hurdle til the walls come tumbling down.
Fired Andy, stroke, gummy, baker, the homey and even rosenstein himself better be lawyering up on the giddy-up. The ohr's, others are going to be caught up in this too.
The entire upper echelon of the DOJ and FBM, demoted, fired or forced to "resign". Now many under investigation already.
Dirty cops, all of them.
Don’t forget Schifty and Simpson talking about their grand babies in Aspen....
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:32 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:
(02-13-2019 04:50 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(02-13-2019 04:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-13-2019 03:54 PM)stinkfist Wrote: tick-toc to '20....
it's unfortunate Sessions was a vaj in that position....
we should've had indictments by now...
Sounds like that may have been the reason for the delay. Sessions was recused, and Rosenstein is caught up in it.
Yup.
Rosenstein was the last hurdle til the walls come tumbling down.
Fired Andy, stroke, gummy, baker, the homey and even rosenstein himself better be lawyering up on the giddy-up. The ohr's, others are going to be caught up in this too.
The entire upper echelon of the DOJ and FBM, demoted, fired or forced to "resign". Now many under investigation already.
Dirty cops, all of them.
Don’t forget Schifty and Simpson talking about their grand babies in Aspen....
I'd kill to dig into the butyl feces' tax returns....
You'll have to find out somewhere other than MSNBC and CNN. They'll have half the Obama administration locked up by the time CNN and MSNBC finally realize Russia Russia Russia aint happening.
Ive been saying this is the real Watergate level story....and the Washington media has largely whiffed on it because it doesnt fit their desired narrative. Sad that journalism is so dead that even Watergate level scandal doesnt motivate somebody to go win a Pulitzer. A 1970's era Woodward and Berstein would have covered this regardless of party. Different times I guess....
This is beyond Watergate level. In Watergate some clowns on the Committee to REElect the President got caught bugging the hopeless McGovern. When RMN found out about it he was furious. And he tried to cover it up. The FBI refused to participate.
Here the head of the FBI, the Clinton campaign, perhaps the Attorney General, head of the CIA and NSA were all involved. And it wasn't one failed bugging. There has been a massive coverup, aided by Schiff and other Democrats in the House.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:52 PM)bullet Wrote: There should be serious consideration of obstruction of justice charges against Schiff. He has tried to stop testimony.
He also tried to get dick picks of Trump. Dude is weird.
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:55 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:
(02-13-2019 06:52 PM)bullet Wrote: There should be serious consideration of obstruction of justice charges against Schiff. He has tried to stop testimony.
He also tried to get dick picks of Trump. Dude is weird.
"weird" isn't close to what he deserves shoved up his arse.....
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-13-2019 06:20 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:
(02-13-2019 06:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote: As long as Mueller has not finished up his finial report....
you will not see movement on Criminal Referrals for FISA abuse or any other Criminal Referrals. If it's going to happen it will come out after Mueller is finished digging under every rock....which he most likely has at this point. But no other investigation will take place till it's official. Anything while the loony left and MSM that is still screaming Russia Russia Russia ....
They will say Trump is using this to put pressure on not charging him. It will give the MSM something to cover and point to instead of any charges that comes from this.
So we are still months and months off...maybe drugged out till the 2020 election hoping a new President and AG is in office. Then it will be drop. I dont think the AG will have the balls to start this before Mueller is finished...if at all.
I don't know, It doesn't seem to me that Barr is the type to play these games. Seemed pretty no-nonsense in the confirmation hearings.
Also wouldn't surprise me to hear that a lot of this work has been underway by the hard working rank and file for some time now. One thing I DO know, is that the guys "on the job" hate the guys at the top that turn all political and try to circumvent this or interfere in that.
I hope you are correct, if this had happen to any President, I would want then to get to the bottom of it...
if they aren't afraid to do this to someone running for President, then elected. How far would they go if it was me or you? Some day I will tell that story because I personally (really close to me) know just how far and dirty they are.
My personal opinion, someone (politician) will get in the ear of the President, and make him believe its best to wait the Mueller investigation, out . Which that shouldn't affect the AG's decision... we all know it can.
If before it ends the MSM and the loony left will push their agenda of obstruction. Those idiots of the loony left will buy it hook, line, sinker.
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RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
This is just more of Don the Con’s team feeding the sheeple red herrings. You trying to tell me the hot tub salesman in the DoJ wouldn’t have brought charges if this had a scintilla of proof. I don’t thinks you guys have an idea of what evidence is. Where’s your evidence?
RE: Breaking - Criminal Referrals are coming for FISA abuse
(02-14-2019 07:23 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: Same question everyone’s been asking Shiffty, Warner, mad max, that loon from Conn, H>, and damn near the entirety of the DOJ and FBM.
Where’s the evidence? Maybe on Nelly Ohr or Carlos Dangers laptops?!?
Dude. Serially.
Put down the glass, push away from the table, take the losses and go home.
Coming from a friend...
did somebody say Nelly.....I'll have this in my head the rest o' day....