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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(02-20-2019 07:59 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  There are no elite playmakers, yes. No Golladay’s, Wolfe’s or TommyLee’s, but there are playmakers. Harbs is as good as Stingley. Tears is as good as Moore. There are perfectly capable players at the skill positions, Carey just ran a defunct offense with a QB who held the ball too long and threw the timing of the offense off. You’ll see better results with a new offense in 19.

I would argue the point that there are many playmakers on next years team. Yes an upgrade in coaching, but we are probably 2 years away from NIU having a high functioning offense again. Talent level needs pretty big upgrade and that will take this staff a year or two

Their talent on offense is fine lol. Offense line will be above average, RB group is elite, tight ends are good, WRs are below average.

They just don't have a QB.

Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:46 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:40 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-20-2019 07:59 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  There are no elite playmakers, yes. No Golladay’s, Wolfe’s or TommyLee’s, but there are playmakers. Harbs is as good as Stingley. Tears is as good as Moore. There are perfectly capable players at the skill positions, Carey just ran a defunct offense with a QB who held the ball too long and threw the timing of the offense off. You’ll see better results with a new offense in 19.

I would argue the point that there are many playmakers on next years team. Yes an upgrade in coaching, but we are probably 2 years away from NIU having a high functioning offense again. Talent level needs pretty big upgrade and that will take this staff a year or two

Their talent on offense is fine lol. Offense line will be above average, RB group is elite, tight ends are good, WRs are below average.

They just don't have a QB.

Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:46 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:40 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I would argue the point that there are many playmakers on next years team. Yes an upgrade in coaching, but we are probably 2 years away from NIU having a high functioning offense again. Talent level needs pretty big upgrade and that will take this staff a year or two

Their talent on offense is fine lol. Offense line will be above average, RB group is elite, tight ends are good, WRs are below average.

They just don't have a QB.

Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:46 PM)7 Wrote:  Their talent on offense is fine lol. Offense line will be above average, RB group is elite, tight ends are good, WRs are below average.

They just don't have a QB.

Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

If it's worst than last year, I won't survive it.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-21-2019 11:46 PM)7 Wrote:  Their talent on offense is fine lol. Offense line will be above average, RB group is elite, tight ends are good, WRs are below average.

They just don't have a QB.

Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison is the reason I have them at very good. Tre has averaged over 5 ypc while being at NIU. That has been while the offense has had ZERO passing attack. He’s been slamming into stacked boxes for 2 years straight. Also, and this is just me hoping, now that Carey is gone Tre will be the clear lead back. He won’t have to share with Jones at all and share less with Childers. I expect Harbs to go for about 1,600 yds this year.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 10:16 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison is the reason I have them at very good. Tre has averaged over 5 ypc while being at NIU. That has been while the offense has had ZERO passing attack. He’s been slamming into stacked boxes for 2 years straight. Also, and this is just me hoping, now that Carey is gone Tre will be the clear lead back. He won’t have to share with Jones at all and share less with Childers. I expect Harbs to go for about 1,600 yds this year.

I agree, actually all the RBs would have better numbers if we'd had some semblance of a passing attack, especially a deep threat, these past couple years.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 10:16 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison is the reason I have them at very good. Tre has averaged over 5 ypc while being at NIU. That has been while the offense has had ZERO passing attack. He’s been slamming into stacked boxes for 2 years straight. Also, and this is just me hoping, now that Carey is gone Tre will be the clear lead back. He won’t have to share with Jones at all and share less with Childers. I expect Harbs to go for about 1,600 yds this year.

Agreed, and exactly what I am hoping to see also.
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Harbison = Stingley. Between the tackles runner, maybe not gamebreaker. I was hoping Jones and Nettles would break a few more big runs. Maybe next year or maybe a RS Freshman/Freshman will step up.
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Signing a grad transfer QB to compete and potentially start would elevate the Qb position instantly. Players get real coachable when their position Is up for grabs.
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Rbs? Tre can play,the rest are okay. I expect major improvement in the WR group thru hard coaching. Maybe they can learn to run a route. TE? I like Brinkman not sure about others, definitely no playmakers here. OLine have talent here, expecting some surprises on who gets the playing time. Talent here and need some coaching here as well with new scheme.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:03 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Elite running backs? Below average WR and no QB and you think the offensive talent is fine?

Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.
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RE: 2019 OFFENSE
(02-22-2019 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:12 AM)7 Wrote:  Tre, Jones, and Nettles is as good of a backfield they've had since the Wolfe/Harris days. The issue on offense isn't talent across the board, it's simply the QB position.

I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.

Okay, they're somewhat better than average as a unit, but there's nobody like Wolfe or Turner, or Leshon Johnson, or Chad Spann - guys that teams have to game-plan around. Stingily also averaged 5.3 and Adam Dach to name another older one that was easily over 5 ypc. Just out of those I can think of off the top of my head.

It's always hard to score when you get close to the endzone, particularly if the O-line isn't great. With guys like Wolfe, Turner, Leshon or Spann, they often scored from farther out with big plays. We're seriously missing that.

Harbison has broken some tackles but not all that many for somebody his size. I think he's the best of the current crop and could potentially get even better. He's better than some similar (in size) guys we've had like Bouagnon or A.J. Harris.
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(02-22-2019 03:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.

Okay, they're somewhat better than average as a unit, but there's nobody like Wolfe or Turner, or Leshon Johnson, or Chad Spann - guys that teams have to game-plan around. Stingily also averaged 5.3 and Adam Dach to name another older one that was easily over 5 ypc. Just out of those I can think of off the top of my head.

It's always hard to score when you get close to the endzone, particularly if the O-line isn't great. With guys like Wolfe, Turner, Leshon or Spann, they often scored from farther out with big plays. We're seriously missing that.

Harbison has broken some tackles but not all that many for somebody his size. I think he's the best of the current crop and could potentially get even better. He's better than some similar (in size) guys we've had like Bouagnon or A.J. Harris.

Stingliy is best comparison. ACRB did not run hard. A.J Harris had a lot of straight line speed but did not use size.
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(02-22-2019 03:31 PM)klake87 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 03:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.

Okay, they're somewhat better than average as a unit, but there's nobody like Wolfe or Turner, or Leshon Johnson, or Chad Spann - guys that teams have to game-plan around. Stingily also averaged 5.3 and Adam Dach to name another older one that was easily over 5 ypc. Just out of those I can think of off the top of my head.

It's always hard to score when you get close to the endzone, particularly if the O-line isn't great. With guys like Wolfe, Turner, Leshon or Spann, they often scored from farther out with big plays. We're seriously missing that.

Harbison has broken some tackles but not all that many for somebody his size. I think he's the best of the current crop and could potentially get even better. He's better than some similar (in size) guys we've had like Bouagnon or A.J. Harris.

Stingliy is best comparison. ACRB did not run hard. A.J Harris had a lot of straight line speed but did not use size.

He's closer in ability to Stingily I think. He isn't quite as big or as strong, but a little faster.

Almost forgot about Jordan Huff. I don't know about the other stuff, but as a runner, he averaged 6.5 ypc (although it was dropping and his last year it was 5.8, still good though).
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007 hit the nail on the head with this: "...particularly if the O-line isn't great." I think we have some talented backs with different styles of running. Our 2018 line was overrated. Loved Sharping, but he was known as a better pass than run blocker, wasn't he? Shively was tough, but not great. Line needs to improve for all pieces of the offensive puzzle to fit together.
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(02-22-2019 03:28 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 12:27 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I'd have to lean more toward average RB unit as opposed to elite.

I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.

Okay, they're somewhat better than average as a unit, but there's nobody like Wolfe or Turner, or Leshon Johnson, or Chad Spann - guys that teams have to game-plan around. Stingily also averaged 5.3 and Adam Dach to name another older one that was easily over 5 ypc. Just out of those I can think of off the top of my head.

It's always hard to score when you get close to the endzone, particularly if the O-line isn't great. With guys like Wolfe, Turner, Leshon or Spann, they often scored from farther out with big plays. We're seriously missing that.

Harbison has broken some tackles but not all that many for somebody his size. I think he's the best of the current crop and could potentially get even better. He's better than some similar (in size) guys we've had like Bouagnon or A.J. Harris.

Down Memory Lane ... how about ... Stacey Robinson.

At Huskie Stadium vs. then-#24 and undefeated Fresno State, Oct. 6, 1990. In a 73-18 win over the Bulldogs, Robinson gained 308 yards (NIU total yardage 806) on just 22 carries, and scored five touchdowns.

Robinson scored all five touchdown and gained 287 of the 308 yards in the first half. He came out at the end of the third quarter.

I was at the game, and Coach Jerry Pettibone called a time out when the crowd (18,000-plus) gave Robinson a standing ovation. Still have an old photo of the scoreboard, but can't find the damn thing right now, otherwise I'd post it.

That year, Robinson rushed for 1,238 yards (6.4 per carry), and passed for another 861. Adam Dach rushed for 966 (6.8 per carry).

By the way, students took down the north endzone goal post with 5 seconds left.
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(02-22-2019 03:59 PM)pvk75 Wrote:  
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(02-22-2019 02:59 PM)7 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:49 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(02-22-2019 09:24 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  I’d go in between you two and say the RB position is very good. The WR group gets a slightly below average, but I think someone new emerges and gets it up to at least average by years end. TE is average. But all it takes at that position is one guy to make it great. Soragahn, Dehahn, Lersch? Who knows. Any word on Charles Robinson after a year of juco?

QB is below average. Let’s hope Childers fits the new offense better if he’s the guy this year. Some systems are a bad match for some players. 2nd to 3rd year can be a big jump for some qbs. Maybe Marcus surprises us.

I do kinda agree with MD in that the offense may take a year or two to become high powered. But I’d expect it to immediately be better than last year.

I think the RBs are average. Harbison a bit above average. They aren't running around people or over people or making anyone miss, except rarely.

Harbison isn’t running people over? WHAT??

Tre and Jones both averaged 5+ YPC running into 8-9 man fronts all year. Tough crowd if you think that’s an average backfield.

Okay, they're somewhat better than average as a unit, but there's nobody like Wolfe or Turner, or Leshon Johnson, or Chad Spann - guys that teams have to game-plan around. Stingily also averaged 5.3 and Adam Dach to name another older one that was easily over 5 ypc. Just out of those I can think of off the top of my head.

It's always hard to score when you get close to the endzone, particularly if the O-line isn't great. With guys like Wolfe, Turner, Leshon or Spann, they often scored from farther out with big plays. We're seriously missing that.

Harbison has broken some tackles but not all that many for somebody his size. I think he's the best of the current crop and could potentially get even better. He's better than some similar (in size) guys we've had like Bouagnon or A.J. Harris.

Down Memory Lane ... how about ... Stacey Robinson.

At Huskie Stadium vs. then-#24 and undefeated Fresno State, Oct. 6, 1990. In a 73-18 win over the Bulldogs, Robinson gained 308 yards (NIU total yardage 808) on just 22 carries, and scored five touchdowns.

Robinson scored all five touchdown and gained 287 of the 308 yards in the first half. He came out at the end of the third quarter.

I was at the game, and Coach Jerry Pettibone called a time out when the crowd (18,000-plus) gave Robinson a standing ovation. Still have an old photo of the scoreboard, but can't find the damn thing right now, otherwise I'd post it.

That year, Robinson rushed for 1,238 yards (6.4 per carry), and passed for another 861. Adam Dach rushed for 966 (6.8 per carry).

Yea, I was thinking of just RBs but Stacey Robinson was fun to watch too. I missed the game but saw a replay. That was just ridiculous. Fresno State had no idea what to do on defense.
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Let Tre run behind a Kill O-Line with Harnish and his QB and watch the results.
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(02-22-2019 04:05 PM)7 Wrote:  Let Tre run behind a Kill O-Line with Harnish and his QB and watch the results.

That would certainly be easier. Especially if he didn't get yanked out of the game every time he made a good play.
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