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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
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(02-12-2019 01:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.


This is such an absolute devastatingly stupid argument to put forth........... I'm sorry my friends it just is.

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria. The criteria can at times be ambiguous and may or may not define viruses, viroids, or potential synthetic life as "living". Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

There is currently no consensus regarding the definition of life. One popular definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve. However, several other definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases of life, such as viruses or viroids.





DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

I am giving you irrefutable evidence that at the very least Badger's comment was on shaking ground. It's not bedrock.

When is a person legally dead? Seems to me the same deciding factor would consider a person legally alive as well.

What about cryogenics? You can’t answer for that either. At the end. Don’t judge.. that simple

Cryogenics is pseudoscience. Why even bring that into the conversation?
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?

It's simple. The media sells it and he plays the role.
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(02-12-2019 01:22 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At the end of this................

Now I am being dead serious here. Why do I post here? Do any of you even have the ability to understand that the statement of. Scientific Fact. We have two genders.

Did I make any headway with any of you. At the very beginning I was upset with Badger for such abject stupidity and my comments to him reflect that, but you yourself. I a moment of true reflection. Do you understand why I would think that that idea is complete and utter bull****? Do we even have the ability to look at that comment in a different light when presented with another viewpoint?

and none of you will answer my question?

Is a picked apple alive.........


To the former,

I’m guessing snow day?
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It was.... ICE storm.....

Are the rest of you retired????
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Bullet.

That life begins at conception is a belief. An opinion. No consensus on when life begins.
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?

Ohhhhhh. BB

Pot meet kettle.
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After reading this thread, I wish I hadn't. I am really sad for some schoolkids somewhere. I am also convinced that TDS can destroy people.
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?


When do the “personhood” laws kick in? The double homicide laws?
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(02-12-2019 02:55 PM)appst89 Wrote:  After reading this thread, I wish I hadn't. I am really sad for some schoolkids somewhere. I am also convinced that TDS can destroy people.


Awwww, cmon. You can’t tell me you haven’t gotten a hearty chuckle or two outta this one!
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(02-12-2019 02:59 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 02:55 PM)appst89 Wrote:  After reading this thread, I wish I hadn't. I am really sad for some schoolkids somewhere. I am also convinced that TDS can destroy people.


Awwww, cmon. You can’t tell me you haven’t gotten a hearty chuckle or two outta this one!

Absolutely busted a gut a couple of times, but I don't think any of it was meant to be humorous.
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The Kelly twins are great. My twin brother and I met them years ago when the Astros hosted the Twins in an interleague game. The Astros needed our help in getting some twins to show up for the game and we reached out to them to show up and they did, sitting quietly with us and some other twins in the outfield. It turns out they are a day older than my brother and I, and were born in the next city over from us.

My twin brother has twin boys of his own, and it turns out they might go to the University of Arizona for college. Maybe his boys can help volunteer for Kelly over the next year or so.
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(02-12-2019 12:07 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
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(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

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(02-12-2019 12:08 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:05 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

serious question. are you drunk? I mean, it's not even lunchtime.

1. That's not a serious question.

2. When one is taking a beating. Admit it. When you are wrong. You are WRONG! You guys never admit to that. DON"T WRITE CHECKS YOUR ASS CAN'T CASH. That simple. Feeling froggy Eagle Jump in. Big Boys get in a line small boys get in a group. I'm handing out ass kickings and chewing bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum.

And off your meds it would appear. Or did you mistake the pink pills for bubble gum?
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(02-12-2019 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No it’s not. Some of the apples are. Some are not.

Not all buds become flowers. Not all flowers become seeds. Not all seeds become trees.

All human embryo's become human babies.

Edit: Unless someone mercilessly rips them from the womb and tosses them aside.
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(02-12-2019 02:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Bullet.

That life begins at conception is a belief. An opinion. No consensus on when life begins.

Is there a consensus on when it ends?
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(02-12-2019 02:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Bullet.

That life begins at conception is a belief. An opinion. No consensus on when life begins.

Is there a consensus on when it ends?

Last i heard it's when brain function ceases. I was getting at the in an earlier reply to Mach but he ignored it.
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(02-12-2019 02:49 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Bullet.

That life begins at conception is a belief. An opinion. No consensus on when life begins.

Again, denying science.

There is no other line but fertilization.

When it becomes "human" is an opinion.
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(02-12-2019 05:01 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No it’s not. Some of the apples are. Some are not.

Not all buds become flowers. Not all flowers become seeds. Not all seeds become trees.

All human embryo's become human babies.

Edit: Unless someone mercilessly rips them from the womb and tosses them aside.

Wrong......

1 out of 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. Look it up.
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(02-12-2019 11:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Lesson number 3.


Notice how the educated say. Science & Facts. Notice how the uneducated say "scientific fact". Therein lies a lesson here that over the many years I have frequented this very place a new crop of undereducated pop up. I get to pull this one out of my tool belt about every four years. The guys who have been around for awhile know it well and have witnessed the pelts that I have on my wall. They never quote scientific facts because they have chose to become educated on this very topic. Hopefully you to Badger can rise from your lowly state. When we know better we do better.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. This isn't math. There are no scientific proofs. The gold standard is the "Theory". That is the absolute best you can do. A scientific theory has never been disproven. Theories have been revised and reworded yes but a scientific theory has never been disproven or it is no longer a theory. The undereducated who Trump so dearly loves get this word confused with hypothesis because of cop shows on TV. The detective says. "I have a theory on who committed the crime" If I could go back in time I would go to Hollywood and tell every creative writer on every TV show to use the word. Hypothesis. Hypotheses can be wrong.

Did that clear that up Badger? Be better.

Believe it or not, I completely agree with you.

There is no such thing as scientific fact or proofs, only theories.

So I'll remember you think this way the next time one of the global/climate/warming/change people INSIST that it's "settled science" and that there's no room for discussion or debate.

It's only a theory, not a fact.
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(02-13-2019 05:53 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 05:01 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 02:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No it’s not. Some of the apples are. Some are not.

Not all buds become flowers. Not all flowers become seeds. Not all seeds become trees.

All human embryo's become human babies.

Edit: Unless someone mercilessly rips them from the womb and tosses them aside.

Wrong......

1 out of 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. Look it up.

I havent wasted my time going back thru this thread, but I' mgoing to assume you STILL.......CANT........DO.......IT? amirite?
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