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(02-12-2019 01:22 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At the end of this................

Now I am being dead serious here. Why do I post here? Do any of you even have the ability to understand that the statement of. Scientific Fact. We have two genders.

Did I make any headway with any of you. At the very beginning I was upset with Badger for such abject stupidity and my comments to him reflect that, but you yourself. I a moment of true reflection. Do you understand why I would think that that idea is complete and utter bull****? Do we even have the ability to look at that comment in a different light when presented with another viewpoint?

and none of you will answer my question?

Is a picked apple alive.........

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(02-12-2019 01:22 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At the end of this................

Now I am being dead serious here. Why do I post here? Do any of you even have the ability to understand that the statement of. Scientific Fact. We have two genders.

Did I make any headway with any of you. At the very beginning I was upset with Badger for such abject stupidity and my comments to him reflect that, but you yourself. I a moment of true reflection. Do you understand why I would think that that idea is complete and utter bull****? Do we even have the ability to look at that comment in a different light when presented with another viewpoint?

and none of you will answer my question?

Is a picked apple alive.........
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You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.


This is such an absolute devastatingly stupid argument to put forth........... I'm sorry my friends it just is.

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria. The criteria can at times be ambiguous and may or may not define viruses, viroids, or potential synthetic life as "living". Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

There is currently no consensus regarding the definition of life. One popular definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve. However, several other definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases of life, such as viruses or viroids.





DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

I am giving you irrefutable evidence that at the very least Badger's comment was on shaking ground. It's not bedrock.
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(02-12-2019 01:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

Mach has a Point.

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(02-12-2019 12:48 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:25 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
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(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

Explain the bold please. From what I've read those are abnormalities, which means something went wrong. Klinefelter results in male hypogonadism and infertility. Nondisjunction, in geneeral, leads to down syndrome. BTW, I have a biology degree as well.

Nondisjunction is when the tetrads do not separate during meiosis 1. Thereby putting two chromosomes in the egg or sperm during gamete formation. If someone is XXY they are going to get both testerone and estrogen. Your testicles and ovaries are the same organ. That organ will develop into testicles in the presence of testerone. That organ will develop into ovaries in the presence estrogen. With Klinefelter's that organ will be in the stomach but it will not be an ovary or testicle. Gender is assigned at birth on the absence or presence of a p en is. The clitoris and p en is are the same organ. The Dr. assigns gender at birth by the size of that organ. Many people with Klinefelters are assigned the gender male because that organ looks more like a p en is than a clitoris but it is neither a clitoris nor a *****. That's why people like our friend Bucky the Badger here are so sadly mistaken when they say.

Muhhhh two genders

You can have monosomy or trisomies on any chromosome. Trisomies on chromosomes 18 and lower are always fatal.
Again. You are confusing "gender" and "sex". Gender is a Psychological term. Sex is a biological term. Tighten up.

Pretty sure they do that on purpose.
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I’m not reading 4 pages to discuss livelihoods of apples
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(02-12-2019 02:16 PM)gdunn Wrote:  I’m not reading 4 pages to discuss livelihoods of apples

No need. You can see all he said on the wiki page.
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(02-12-2019 01:22 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At the end of this................

Now I am being dead serious here. Why do I post here? Do any of you even have the ability to understand that the statement of. Scientific Fact. We have two genders.

Did I make any headway with any of you. At the very beginning I was upset with Badger for such abject stupidity and my comments to him reflect that, but you yourself. I a moment of true reflection. Do you understand why I would think that that idea is complete and utter bull****? Do we even have the ability to look at that comment in a different light when presented with another viewpoint?

and none of you will answer my question?

Is a picked apple alive.........

A picked apple is basically like the babies the VA Gov. wants to murder.
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No it’s not. Some of the apples are. Some are not.

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(02-12-2019 01:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.


This is such an absolute devastatingly stupid argument to put forth........... I'm sorry my friends it just is.

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria. The criteria can at times be ambiguous and may or may not define viruses, viroids, or potential synthetic life as "living". Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

There is currently no consensus regarding the definition of life. One popular definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve. However, several other definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases of life, such as viruses or viroids.





DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

I am giving you irrefutable evidence that at the very least Badger's comment was on shaking ground. It's not bedrock.

When is a person legally dead? Seems to me the same deciding factor would consider a person legally alive as well.
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Social construct theory comes into play here also
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(02-12-2019 02:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 01:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.


This is such an absolute devastatingly stupid argument to put forth........... I'm sorry my friends it just is.

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria. The criteria can at times be ambiguous and may or may not define viruses, viroids, or potential synthetic life as "living". Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

There is currently no consensus regarding the definition of life. One popular definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve. However, several other definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases of life, such as viruses or viroids.





DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

I am giving you irrefutable evidence that at the very least Badger's comment was on shaking ground. It's not bedrock.

When is a person legally dead? Seems to me the same deciding factor would consider a person legally alive as well.

What about cryogenics? You can’t answer for that either. At the end. Don’t judge.. that simple
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Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 02:31 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 01:30 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.


This is such an absolute devastatingly stupid argument to put forth........... I'm sorry my friends it just is.

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria. The criteria can at times be ambiguous and may or may not define viruses, viroids, or potential synthetic life as "living". Biology is the science concerned with the study of life.

There is currently no consensus regarding the definition of life. One popular definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve. However, several other definitions have been proposed, and there are some borderline cases of life, such as viruses or viroids.





DO ANY OF YOU HAVE THE COURAGE to go against your pack and say. You know. Mach has a point.

I am giving you irrefutable evidence that at the very least Badger's comment was on shaking ground. It's not bedrock.

When is a person legally dead? Seems to me the same deciding factor would consider a person legally alive as well.

What about cryogenics? You can’t answer for that either. At the end. Don’t judge.. that simple

Cryogenics is pseudoscience. Why even bring that into the conversation?
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?

It's simple. The media sells it and he plays the role.
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(02-12-2019 01:22 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  At the end of this................

Now I am being dead serious here. Why do I post here? Do any of you even have the ability to understand that the statement of. Scientific Fact. We have two genders.

Did I make any headway with any of you. At the very beginning I was upset with Badger for such abject stupidity and my comments to him reflect that, but you yourself. I a moment of true reflection. Do you understand why I would think that that idea is complete and utter bull****? Do we even have the ability to look at that comment in a different light when presented with another viewpoint?

and none of you will answer my question?

Is a picked apple alive.........


To the former,

I’m guessing snow day?
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It was.... ICE storm.....

Are the rest of you retired????
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Bullet.

That life begins at conception is a belief. An opinion. No consensus on when life begins.
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(02-12-2019 02:35 PM)bullet Wrote:  Mach claims to be a biologist and won't acknowledge that life begins at conception. That is an undeniable biological fact.

Is it cognitive dissonance? He wants laws that ignore that fact. Its typical of the left. They want something so they totally deny science and common sense.

If the left was halfway honest, they would try the argument that it is a balance between the woman and the new life. At some point it must tip to the new life. That is what the abortion debate is about. When does it tip?

Ohhhhhh. BB

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After reading this thread, I wish I hadn't. I am really sad for some schoolkids somewhere. I am also convinced that TDS can destroy people.
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