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This culture of living and dying be every Congressional seat as if the world depends on it is fk'in' toxic and needs to end.

I browsed alt-left twitter on nights when there were special elections for fk'in' House seats (that would be up for reelection in a couple months), and verified blue check marks would joke about how they needed to drink the stress away as they watched and documented every slight change in the NYT's probability meter.

That shite isn't normal or healthy.
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(02-12-2019 11:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Lesson number 3.


Notice how the educated say. Science & Facts. Notice how the uneducated say "scientific fact". Therein lies a lesson here that over the many years I have frequented this very place a new crop of undereducated pop up. I get to pull this one out of my tool belt about every four years. The guys who have been around for awhile know it well and have witnessed the pelts that I have on my wall. They never quote scientific facts because they have chose to become educated on this very topic. Hopefully you to Badger can rise from your lowly state. When we know better we do better.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. This isn't math. There are no scientific proofs. The gold standard is the "Theory". That is the absolute best you can do. A scientific theory has never been disproven. Theories have been revised and reworded yes but a scientific theory has never been disproven or it is no longer a theory. The undereducated who Trump so dearly loves get this word confused with hypothesis because of cop shows on TV. The detective says. "I have a theory on who committed the crime" If I could go back in time I would go to Hollywood and tell every creative writer on every TV show to use the word. Hypothesis. Hypotheses can be wrong.

Did that clear that up Badger? Be better.

ok, let's see you twist and contort yourself with your vast knowledge of your masters degree.

1. If a single cell organism on Mars is found, is that a form of life?
2. Would an unborn baby be considered a form of life?

Now ,I know this is going to be hard for you, because you like to get diarrhea of the mouth and go off on a tangent. I dont need a soap box. A simple yes or no next to each will suffice.
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(02-12-2019 11:54 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I woke up feeling dangerous.......


You need to stop while you are not as far behind.
1. I'm sure you know "gender" is a psychological term and "sex" is a biological term.
2. I'm sure you also know that theories become a "scientific" or "natural" law after repetitious experimentation. Theories are "mathematical predictions" and laws are the "explanation".
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(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

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(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.
what is your gender Mach? are you genderless? on a sliding scale... is gender even real?

I am interested. Tell me all you know and believe.

Then lets discuss race. You can tell me what you believe about racial constructs.
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(02-12-2019 12:05 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

serious question. are you drunk? I mean, it's not even lunchtime.

1. That's not a serious question.

2. When one is taking a beating. Admit it. When you are wrong. You are WRONG! You guys never admit to that. DON"T WRITE CHECKS YOUR ASS CAN'T CASH. That simple. Feeling froggy Eagle Jump in. Big Boys get in a line small boys get in a group. I'm handing out ass kickings and chewing bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum.
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(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

If you really want to play the 'Argument from authority' game...

I see you and raise you a PhD in Biology: Bret Weinstein



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(02-12-2019 12:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Lesson number 3.


Notice how the educated say. Science & Facts. Notice how the uneducated say "scientific fact". Therein lies a lesson here that over the many years I have frequented this very place a new crop of undereducated pop up. I get to pull this one out of my tool belt about every four years. The guys who have been around for awhile know it well and have witnessed the pelts that I have on my wall. They never quote scientific facts because they have chose to become educated on this very topic. Hopefully you to Badger can rise from your lowly state. When we know better we do better.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. This isn't math. There are no scientific proofs. The gold standard is the "Theory". That is the absolute best you can do. A scientific theory has never been disproven. Theories have been revised and reworded yes but a scientific theory has never been disproven or it is no longer a theory. The undereducated who Trump so dearly loves get this word confused with hypothesis because of cop shows on TV. The detective says. "I have a theory on who committed the crime" If I could go back in time I would go to Hollywood and tell every creative writer on every TV show to use the word. Hypothesis. Hypotheses can be wrong.

Did that clear that up Badger? Be better.

ok, let's see you twist and contort yourself with your vast knowledge of your masters degree.

1. If a single cell organism on Mars is found, is that a form of life?
2. Would an unborn baby be considered a form of life?

Now ,I know this is going to be hard for you, because you like to get diarrhea of the mouth and go off on a tangent. I dont need a soap box. A simple yes or no next to each will suffice.



1. It's called a sign of life. A potential for life. No "scientist" would call it living.

2. I'm not giving my shellacking here away for free. A need my pound of flesh first. Since you want to step up for it UofM. Answer my picked apple is alive.
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(02-12-2019 12:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Lesson number 3.


Notice how the educated say. Science & Facts. Notice how the uneducated say "scientific fact". Therein lies a lesson here that over the many years I have frequented this very place a new crop of undereducated pop up. I get to pull this one out of my tool belt about every four years. The guys who have been around for awhile know it well and have witnessed the pelts that I have on my wall. They never quote scientific facts because they have chose to become educated on this very topic. Hopefully you to Badger can rise from your lowly state. When we know better we do better.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. This isn't math. There are no scientific proofs. The gold standard is the "Theory". That is the absolute best you can do. A scientific theory has never been disproven. Theories have been revised and reworded yes but a scientific theory has never been disproven or it is no longer a theory. The undereducated who Trump so dearly loves get this word confused with hypothesis because of cop shows on TV. The detective says. "I have a theory on who committed the crime" If I could go back in time I would go to Hollywood and tell every creative writer on every TV show to use the word. Hypothesis. Hypotheses can be wrong.

Did that clear that up Badger? Be better.

ok, let's see you twist and contort yourself with your vast knowledge of your masters degree.

1. If a single cell organism on Mars is found, is that a form of life?
2. Would an unborn baby be considered a form of life?

Now ,I know this is going to be hard for you, because you like to get diarrhea of the mouth and go off on a tangent. I dont need a soap box. A simple yes or no next to each will suffice.



1. It's called a sign of life. A potential for life. No "scientist" would call it living.

2. I'm not giving my shellacking here away for free. A need my pound of flesh first. Since you want to step up for it UofM. Answer my picked apple is alive.

Couldnt do it, could you? Even with that "Master's" degree. Just couldnt do it.
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3. why are you numbering things when there are only two things?
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1. there is no number 2.
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(02-12-2019 12:07 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.
what is your gender Mach? are you genderless? on a sliding scale... is gender even real?

I am interested. Tell me all you know and believe.

Then lets discuss race. You can tell me what you believe about racial constructs.

Oh my God........

This could really lead to a great discussion. It really could. I am well aware of the social construct theory and I feel it's a great topic to discuss. I have spent many miles of travel discussing it.
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(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

So your point is that the (fill in the blank) genders are the result of a biological defect.

I couldn't help but notice that even when the studies were discussing the effects, they STILL used two gender pronouns, either the male or the female. They never claimed that ANY of those conditions resulted in another gender.

I think you're confusing biology with PSYCHOLOGY. "Identifying" is noting more than a psychological condition, one that can be influenced by outside stimulus such as being drilled about there being "dozens" of genders. It's almost as if they were making it up along the way. Have mental issues, blame a "defect", create a new gender that happens to fit your "issues".

You're free to believe the BS, some of us just call BS.

As for the second, you're REALLY going to compare a 8 month old fetus to an apple? A fetus, which BTW, can easily survive outside the womb, something a biology expert should know to be common knowledge. Unless you're making the argument that the fetus isn't "alive" until it's born "naturally" after 9 months?
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(02-12-2019 11:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

Badger do you really want to argue the two genders with a man with a Masters in Biology? Do you really want that public spanking?

Step up Cowboy! Get your beating. This is precisely the problem. I can shred your two arguments. The two genders one with two hands behind my back. The second is more of an ethical issue.

First one- Look up nondisjunction during synapsis. Then after you have that under your belt look up effects of nondisjunction of the 23rd chromosome. Then after that look up Klinefelter's. Now how silly and stupid do you feel?
Now if you have any shred of empathy in that pea sized brain of yours look up suicide rates among those with that chromosomal disorder from the likes of pea brained individuals that grunt. Look, "There are only two genders Cletus."

Second one- Answer this. Is a picked apple alive? Once you attempt this I can see where you fall and can pick apart either answer. Try this one.

Explain the bold please. From what I've read those are abnormalities, which means something went wrong. Klinefelter results in male hypogonadism and infertility. Nondisjunction, in geneeral, leads to down syndrome. BTW, I have a biology degree as well.
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Race:

Polygenic Inheritance.

In humans at least three different genes at three different locations control skin color. The allele for black skin is dominant over the allele for white skin. The genotypes are listed below.
d1d1
D1d1
D1D1

d2d2
D2d2
D2D2

d3d3
D3d3
D3D3

so you have nine different loci on seperate chromosomes that determine the amount of melanin in your skin.

There's your races.........

That's all it is. Collection of melanin
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(02-12-2019 11:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:18 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  ...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science.

You mean like the scientific fact that there are only 2 genders and not a dozen or so?

How about the scientific fact that a single cell organism found on Mars would be considered life but a 8 month old fetus is not?

Guess it's OK to retreat from "Facts & Science" when it fits the narrative.

This deserved some special sauce........................

He was being a little condescending himself here too. He was he was. A lil bit. A lil bit.


Now go get your shine box...................

Oh really?

And I suppose saying something as smarmy as "...there has been a retreat from Facts and Science." isn't condescending?

The point which seemed to escape you while you were preparing your biology lecture was that "facts & science" seem to be fluid depending on WHO'S giving the lesson and what agenda that lesson is attempting to push. Whether it be gender, Algore's hockey stick graph, vaccinations, "facts & science" seem to be a matter of opinion.
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As for the second, you're REALLY going to compare a 8 month old fetus to an apple? A fetus, which BTW, can easily survive outside the womb, something a biology expert should know to be common knowledge. Unless you're making the argument that the fetus isn't "alive" until it's born "naturally" after 9 months?

Where did I make a comparison? I am asking for a belief. Make A CLAIM. Show Evidence of that claim. Then support it. Is a picked apple alive. Either way you go I am going to shred you. Just so you know. I haven't made any claim that's why I won't answer the #2 above. I can make an effective claim opposite of your point of wherever you want to stand.
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Algore's hockey stick graph.......................


oh man you want to dig deeper heh.

I realize you want to attempt to pivot away. Let's first slap you around in your initial comments though. Do you really want to concede those two so fast? If so we can take apart your other drivel but I would love to hear your answer. Is a picked apple aliv?. Either way you go I am going to make a very compelling argument against you so you can understand the folly of your original neanderthal statement.
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(02-12-2019 12:34 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Algore's hockey stick graph.......................


oh man you want to dig deeper heh.

I realize you want to attempt to pivot away. Let's first slap you around in your initial to. Do you really want to concede those two so fast? If so we can take aprt these other three but I would love to hear your answer. Is a picked apple alive. Either way you go I am going to make a very compelling argument against you.

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(02-12-2019 12:13 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:11 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 12:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2019 11:45 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Lesson number 3.


Notice how the educated say. Science & Facts. Notice how the uneducated say "scientific fact". Therein lies a lesson here that over the many years I have frequented this very place a new crop of undereducated pop up. I get to pull this one out of my tool belt about every four years. The guys who have been around for awhile know it well and have witnessed the pelts that I have on my wall. They never quote scientific facts because they have chose to become educated on this very topic. Hopefully you to Badger can rise from your lowly state. When we know better we do better.

There is NO SUCH THING AS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. This isn't math. There are no scientific proofs. The gold standard is the "Theory". That is the absolute best you can do. A scientific theory has never been disproven. Theories have been revised and reworded yes but a scientific theory has never been disproven or it is no longer a theory. The undereducated who Trump so dearly loves get this word confused with hypothesis because of cop shows on TV. The detective says. "I have a theory on who committed the crime" If I could go back in time I would go to Hollywood and tell every creative writer on every TV show to use the word. Hypothesis. Hypotheses can be wrong.

Did that clear that up Badger? Be better.

ok, let's see you twist and contort yourself with your vast knowledge of your masters degree.

1. If a single cell organism on Mars is found, is that a form of life?
2. Would an unborn baby be considered a form of life?

Now ,I know this is going to be hard for you, because you like to get diarrhea of the mouth and go off on a tangent. I dont need a soap box. A simple yes or no next to each will suffice.



1. It's called a sign of life. A potential for life. No "scientist" would call it living.

2. I'm not giving my shellacking here away for free. A need my pound of flesh first. Since you want to step up for it UofM. Answer my picked apple is alive.

Couldnt do it, could you? Even with that "Master's" degree. Just couldnt do it.

still.....cant...do.....it..........
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