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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
(02-11-2019 04:15 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 12:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Raising the minimum wage to $15 will increase demand for illegal immigration... or "under the table" labor for $10/hour.


Raising the minimum wage to $15 will also effectively eliminate teen employment. How is my 14-15 year old son that has never worked a day in his life supposed to land a job for $15/hour?

What no one ever talks about when referring to a $15/hr min. wage is the poor bastard that has worked his/her way up from the bottom at a job for the past 3-4 years and then all of a sudden he/she is making the same as the person working under him/her that was just hired on after dropping out of high school.

yeah, I do....

how do you justify a $10 entry wage going up a MINIMUM OF 50% with the swipe of the pen....

that's just fk'n retarded economics from the exterior design to hammer the interior....

if one hasn't figured that out by now......vote for a liberterian or some other write-in that will never have a fk'n chance....

you have to understand the war to win the battles....
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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.
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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
(02-11-2019 08:00 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.

but we're talking about a federal mandate that would cripple and inflate USD in the center....

if the urban centers want to inflate dollars.....go for it...

watch how that works out....

if one thinks crime is bad now......have fun with that....
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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
(02-11-2019 08:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:00 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.

but we're talking about a federal mandate that would cripple and inflate USD in the center....

if the urban centers want to inflate dollars.....go for it...

watch how that works out....

if one thinks crime is bad now......have fun with that....

That’s why I think it’s lunacy to mandate it at the federal level. Locally, have at it.

$15 an hour in San Fran is a whole lot more justified than Macon Georgia........typical government implementation - pound those square pegs into round holes........
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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
(02-11-2019 08:26 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:00 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.

but we're talking about a federal mandate that would cripple and inflate USD in the center....

if the urban centers want to inflate dollars.....go for it...

watch how that works out....

if one thinks crime is bad now......have fun with that....

That’s why I think it’s lunacy to mandate it at the federal level. Locally, have at it.

$15 an hour in San Fran is a whole lot more justified than Macon Georgia........typical government implementation - pound those square pegs into round holes........

which is why it has no business getting into others business....

let the states decide, eh?

piss on both ways....the coastal fringe can lick my lily white one....
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RE: How do you reconcile demand for higher min wage vs more illegal immigration?
(02-11-2019 08:29 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:26 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:00 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.

but we're talking about a federal mandate that would cripple and inflate USD in the center....

if the urban centers want to inflate dollars.....go for it...

watch how that works out....

if one thinks crime is bad now......have fun with that....

That’s why I think it’s lunacy to mandate it at the federal level. Locally, have at it.

$15 an hour in San Fran is a whole lot more justified than Macon Georgia........typical government implementation - pound those square pegs into round holes........

which is why it has no business getting into others business....

let the states decide, eh?

piss on both ways....the coastal fringe can lick my lily white one....

Yep.....states....and if that states wants to allow cities to have a higher minimum, so be it.
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(02-11-2019 09:19 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:29 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:26 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-11-2019 08:00 PM)Crebman Wrote:  There are actually some places in the country (generally big cities) where a $15 minimum wage is probably appropriate, but trying to force it nationwide is just stupid. Of course, seems like most of those pushing for it ALL come from those same large expensive cities.

This is why I’m way more okay with localities mandating the higher minimums if that’s what they choose. Additionally, if it succeeds or fails......it’s on that locality.

Once the minimum gets raised, if it fails, it would be like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube to lower it back down........until it becomes like another Detroit, but by them it’s too late and the big proponents will have moved away.

but we're talking about a federal mandate that would cripple and inflate USD in the center....

if the urban centers want to inflate dollars.....go for it...

watch how that works out....

if one thinks crime is bad now......have fun with that....

That’s why I think it’s lunacy to mandate it at the federal level. Locally, have at it.

$15 an hour in San Fran is a whole lot more justified than Macon Georgia........typical government implementation - pound those square pegs into round holes........

which is why it has no business getting into others business....

let the states decide, eh?

piss on both ways....the coastal fringe can lick my lily white one....

Yep.....states....and if that states wants to allow cities to have a higher minimum, so be it.

if some are willing to buy overpriced homes in an over taxed state.....go for it....

nuts zongo says, "fk ewe!"

where's a flat market price for any city.....what are the feds....subsidize that shite????

if one wants to talk about real supply and demand, I'm all ears....

the published numbers are an average from dipshites protecting their interests....

it's why I gave the fk'n finga to every libtard econ prof.....

you can't fix a dipshite until their tenure is insolvent or the dwelling is over exaggerated....

what you can do is measure wages vs. demand and adjust accordingly....

that's happening right now....

DJT knows real estate....
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(02-11-2019 09:42 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  1b

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it's that simple in today's 'en macro'...

that's the fk'n battle.....it doesn't matter if one likes it or not....

the question remains, "what do we want to fight for?"
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As we are finding out, the spending bill was a giant FU to normal Americans. Border security is not going to be strengthened, enforcement is being curtailed and everything is pointing towards catch and release being the norm. This is precisely what the donors to both parties wanted. This was a bipartisan effort to increase illegal immigration for wage control. We’re creating a larger black market for labor. Biggest losers in all this? Low skilled Blacks and Hispanics who have legal status. Basically, all low skilled Americans get screwed over. Not everyone can work in high skilled jobs. Great job Congress. And you wonder why socialism is as popular as it is...
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(02-16-2019 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote:  As we are finding out, the spending bill was a giant FU to normal Americans. Border security is not going to be strengthened, enforcement is being curtailed and everything is pointing towards catch and release being the norm. This is precisely what the donors to both parties wanted. This was a bipartisan effort to increase illegal immigration for wage control. We’re creating a larger black market for labor. Biggest losers in all this? Low skilled Blacks and Hispanics who have legal status. Basically, all low skilled Americans get screwed over. Not everyone can work in high skilled jobs. Great job Congress. And you wonder why socialism is as popular as it is...

w/o a wall, it never 'stands' having a chance on a pegleg...

you're XACLY! correct....catch and release is a fk'n scourge...

it's destruction from the inside.....that's what sickens my arse....

people worry about WAY TOO MANY STUPID FRUITY PEBBLES....

PICK UP PENNIES, THUMB TAP PAST THE BENJIS....today's mantra...
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(02-16-2019 08:57 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-16-2019 08:28 AM)miko33 Wrote:  As we are finding out, the spending bill was a giant FU to normal Americans. Border security is not going to be strengthened, enforcement is being curtailed and everything is pointing towards catch and release being the norm. This is precisely what the donors to both parties wanted. This was a bipartisan effort to increase illegal immigration for wage control. We’re creating a larger black market for labor. Biggest losers in all this? Low skilled Blacks and Hispanics who have legal status. Basically, all low skilled Americans get screwed over. Not everyone can work in high skilled jobs. Great job Congress. And you wonder why socialism is as popular as it is...

w/o a wall, it never 'stands' having a chance on a pegleg...

you're XACLY! correct....catch and release is a fk'n scourge...

it's destruction from the inside.....that's what sickens my arse....

people worry about WAY TOO MANY STUPID FRUITY PEBBLES....

PICK UP PENNIES, THUMB TAP PAST THE BENJIS....today's mantra...

A "union yes" guy from a generation ago would see that this is - in reality - a screw job against the unions too. It's actually a highly effective way to bust a union - actually all private sector unions to be precise. The private unions are only worried about today's contracts and seeing that min wage go up. Meanwhile...they're slitting their own throats supporting this illegal immigrant "dash for the cash" in the USA... F'kn morons...
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