There's a lot that could be said about this game..................and/or there's not much to say about this game. Either way is just as valid. In some ways this may be good for us, come tournament time. We (apparently) needed a serious, extended, visit to ye old woodshed. And hopefully now that's out of the way. And I don't care who says that there wasn't going to be a mental let-down after the Wofford game. Even tho the coaching staff I'm sure tried hard not to focus on that game, the players *had* to do so, pychologically. That's just the way humans work. They could see the standings; they knew what was at stake; and they knew they came up *EVER* so close but failed. Kids that age traditionally bounce back quickly from things, and they do, but this was a big deal, whether the coaches wanted to admit it or not. Most of us knew Thursday night that almost certainly the season was going to boil down to those most dreaded words for ETSU basketball fans to hear: "Three days in March." To recall my words from the UNC-G thread after that loss 2.5 weeks ago:

GoBucsGo Wrote:
"There's a whole lot of basketball left to play."

posterformerlyknownasthedoctor:
"True dat. And while I'm not totally fatalistic on the "3 days in March" mantra/philosophy turning out favorably, I think it likely that we'll see CBI/CIT/whatever action this year. I think, since we won't have folded at the end like last year, Forbes and the team will want to play more."
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Now, though...........all (hopefully) the skeletons are out of the closet. I wouldn't have wanted to be in that dressing room, or on that bus on the way back tonight, or in the gym at 6:30 Monday AM. We'll soon know what capabilities we actually have, and what capabilities we actually don't have. There could even be "casualities" as Forbes was that mad and disgusted. I agree with Rod - it *did* sound sorta "next level".

It may or may not matter whether we finish 3rd or 4th. We'll now just have to play the games as they come and suck it up. As if we didn't have to do that, anyway. But now we can have sort of an existentialist, zen-like sense of purpose(?): just go about the job without complaining, in a nose-to-the-grindstone sort of way. Less joy - it's now just a job to do. Easy for me to say, I know.... Point being, I actually think our chances of winning the tournament went *up* a slight amount after that butt-kicking. (But still long odds.)

Some (one person in particular) has been saying this is one year too early, and that next year will be our year. Maybe, and the cards/stars may line up that way. But I personally still think *last* year should have been "our year". (And not that we can't have more than one "our year".) I think our team last year was mentally stronger and tougher, but wore down with the pressure of "the streak", and peaked too early - not to mention uber-critical injuries. But that's water under the bridges of Pirate Creek now.

ETSUfan1 says: "I just don’t think this team has good chemistry sometimes." I sort or think they *do* have "good chemistry" - and that's the problem. I several times pointed out both year-before-last, and last year how great our chemistry was - almost off the charts - definitely better than "good". "Good chemistry" is a notch down from where we've been, and that's not unexpected with all the new and faces. The loss of A.J. and Bradford were utterly key in this regard. There's been nobody to serve in that "wily old veteran" role. Who has 'great' chemistry this year? Wofford, UNC-G, and Furman. They've got the veterans; they've got the maturity; they've got the cohesiveness to weather storms. Bluntly, we don't. We've got good team chemistry, but that of all those teams is superior, because of the leadership on those teams. It's more focused and harness-able.

Now............to the mechanics.............

Who could have predicted Armus + N'Guessan = 1 point; 3 boards?

Our best penetrator/driver is neither of our PGs, but Boyd. And while he was only 1/4 from deep, he was 4/7 "inside" on a series of slashes, floaters in the lane, etc. He also is really good at sniffing out passing lanes for steals. On the flip side, yes, he'll turn the ball over on ocassion with overly-aggressive passes. Kinda like Jerome Long last year, but not nearly to that degree. He only had one TO tonight with considerable action and the ball in his hands a lot. I'm not saying we should make him the PG, as his handle isn't as steady, but I've been enjoying his aggressiveness taking it to the hole in clever, non-Hodges fashion. Further..........I've been telling you all all year that we don't really have a 'great' PG in terms of having someone who can create for others. That's become more and more obvious as the year wears on, and as opponents see that same weakness. Both our PGs tonight, and against Wofford, seemed many times helpless against that jump double-team. Yes, both Tisdale and Williamson can deliver on occasion, but not on a regular basis. Williamson could become a very good or great one, but he's not there yet. Tisdale is adequate at the point, but has considerable value on the other side of things.

Ok, so Furple hit 12/18 from deep. I almost want to torture myself and replay the game to see how many of those 18 shots were unguarded, or nearly so. Just from memory, it seemed like about 15 of them, altho that's probably an exaggeration.
On the other side of the ball, I think it's easy to think it was more our failures than their D, but their D was excellent, certainly out on the perimeter when we had shooters trying to shake loose. Just as certainly, Rodriguez was eating their lunch in the paint. Which is not to imply their D won them the game; we mostly imploded, as Forbes just might tell us.

It's really rather stunning that we could win the rebounding battle (even with their hot shooting), and yet botch virtually every other aspect to the degree that we lose by 30. That's hard to do. Makes one almost want to celebrate our extraordinary achievement of making 69% of our FTs.

It's not easy to see if this was a season-high for Brown, but I kinda think it was. It *was* a season-high for both shooting percentage (6/6), and shooting percentage from 3 (5/5).

Ok, enough about all that. We got whupped ever which way, and the nuances have little intrinsic value - as far as this game, at least.

(02-10-2019 04:13 AM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  There's a lot that could be said about this game..................and/or there's not much to say about this game. Either way is just as valid. In some ways this may be good for us, come tournament time. We (apparently) needed a serious, extended, visit to ye old woodshed. And hopefully now that's out of the way. And I don't care who says that there wasn't going to be a mental let-down after the Wofford game. Even tho the coaching staff I'm sure tried hard not to focus on that game, the players *had* to do so, pychologically. That's just the way humans work. They could see the standings; they knew what was at stake; and they knew they came up *EVER* so close but failed. Kids that age traditionally bounce back quickly from things, and they do, but this was a big deal, whether the coaches wanted to admit it or not. Most of us knew Thursday night that almost certainly the season was going to boil down to those most dreaded words for ETSU basketball fans to hear: "Three days in March." To recall my words from the UNC-G thread after that loss 2.5 weeks ago:

GoBucsGo Wrote:
"There's a whole lot of basketball left to play."

posterformerlyknownasthedoctor:
"True dat. And while I'm not totally fatalistic on the "3 days in March" mantra/philosophy turning out favorably, I think it likely that we'll see CBI/CIT/whatever action this year. I think, since we won't have folded at the end like last year, Forbes and the team will want to play more."
----------------------------

Now, though...........all (hopefully) the skeletons are out of the closet. I wouldn't have wanted to be in that dressing room, or on that bus on the way back tonight, or in the gym at 6:30 Monday AM. We'll soon know what capabilities we actually have, and what capabilities we actually don't have. There could even be "casualities" as Forbes was that mad and disgusted. I agree with Rod - it *did* sound sorta "next level".

It may or may not matter whether we finish 3rd or 4th. We'll now just have to play the games as they come and suck it up. As if we didn't have to do that, anyway. But now we can have sort of an existentialist, zen-like sense of purpose(?): just go about the job without complaining, in a nose-to-the-grindstone sort of way. Less joy - it's now just a job to do. Easy for me to say, I know.... Point being, I actually think our chances of winning the tournament went *up* a slight amount after that butt-kicking. (But still long odds.)

Some (one person in particular) has been saying this is one year too early, and that next year will be our year. Maybe, and the cards/stars may line up that way. But I personally still think *last* year should have been "our year". (And not that we can't have more than one "our year".) I think our team last year was mentally stronger and tougher, but wore down with the pressure of "the streak", and peaked too early - not to mention uber-critical injuries. But that's water under the bridges of Pirate Creek now.

ETSUfan1 says: "I just don’t think this team has good chemistry sometimes." I sort or think they *do* have "good chemistry" - and that's the problem. I several times pointed out both year-before-last, and last year how great our chemistry was - almost off the charts - definitely better than "good". "Good chemistry" is a notch down from where we've been, and that's not unexpected with all the new and faces. The loss of A.J. and Bradford were utterly key in this regard. There's been nobody to serve in that "wily old veteran" role. Who has 'great' chemistry this year? Wofford, UNC-G, and Furman. They've got the veterans; they've got the maturity; they've got the cohesiveness to weather storms. Bluntly, we don't. We've got good team chemistry, but that of all those teams is superior, because of the leadership on those teams. It's more focused and harness-able.

Now............to the mechanics.............

Who could have predicted Armus + N'Guessan = 1 point; 3 boards?

Our best penetrator/driver is neither of our PGs, but Boyd. And while he was only 1/4 from deep, he was 4/7 "inside" on a series of slashes, floaters in the lane, etc. He also is really good at sniffing out passing lanes for steals. On the flip side, yes, he'll turn the ball over on ocassion with overly-aggressive passes. Kinda like Jerome Long last year, but not nearly to that degree. He only had one TO tonight with considerable action and the ball in his hands a lot. I'm not saying we should make him the PG, as his handle isn't as steady, but I've been enjoying his aggressiveness taking it to the hole in clever, non-Hodges fashion. Further..........I've been telling you all all year that we don't really have a 'great' PG in terms of having someone who can create for others. That's become more and more obvious as the year wears on, and as opponents see that same weakness. Both our PGs tonight, and against Wofford, seemed many times helpless against that jump double-team. Yes, both Tisdale and Williamson can deliver on occasion, but not on a regular basis. Williamson could become a very good or great one, but he's not there yet. Tisdale is adequate at the point, but has considerable value on the other side of things.

Ok, so Furple hit 12/18 from deep. I almost want to torture myself and replay the game to see how many of those 18 shots were unguarded, or nearly so. Just from memory, it seemed like about 15 of them, altho that's probably an exaggeration.
On the other side of the ball, I think it's easy to think it was more our failures than their D, but their D was excellent, certainly out on the perimeter when we had shooters trying to shake loose. Just as certainly, Rodriguez was eating their lunch in the paint. Which is not to imply their D won them the game; we mostly imploded, as Forbes just might tell us.

It's really rather stunning that we could win the rebounding battle (even with their hot shooting), and yet botch virtually every other aspect to the degree that we lose by 30. That's hard to do. Makes one almost want to celebrate our extraordinary achievement of making 69% of our FTs.

It's not easy to see if this was a season-high for Brown, but I kinda think it was. It *was* a season-high for both shooting percentage (6/6), and shooting percentage from 3 (5/5).

Ok, enough about all that. We got whupped ever which way, and the nuances have little intrinsic value - as far as this game, at least.

Phew that was a long read but spot on! I agree that Bucs do not have a true point guard and it showed up big time yesterday. As for next year being our year, I am forward looking not looking in rear view mirror. If this years team played last years team I think this years team wins 8/10 (unless of course it came down to free throw contest). The last two games show the ceiling and floor of this team. Question is which team shows up in Asheville?

My take.

The offense is stagnant. No hard screens to get open shots. Our bigs constantly clog up the middle which keeps the guards from being able to drive to middle and kick out to shooters. Spend most if the clock passing ball around the perimeter hoping someone gets an open shot, if no is one open, Bo or Tray tries to drive or some one tries a pass to the bigs or they have to force a shot.

Where is the screen game?
Where are the back door layup/dunk plays?
Where are our inbound plays?

Every opponent doubles our bigs as soon as they catch the ball. Their guards drop down and dig at the ball. This causes confusion, turnovers and bad shots.

The defense is totally predictable. Everyone is left one on one. Armus has only played 1 1/2 years of D1 ball. He cannot be expected to handle 4th and 5th yr players by himself. He and Jerromy get no help and anyone can see the results. The bigs of Wofford, Furman, Samford and Uncg kill us.They can go left or right because there is no offside help or guards dropping down. Even when they can't get off a clear shot, they have a easy outlet pass to their three point shooters, plus by playing them one on one, our bigs pick up fouls early in the game, forcing the Bucs to go small.

Where is the sideline/inbounds trapping defense?
Where is the offside and guard defensive help?

The coaches need to retool the offense and the defense.

Every coach in the league knows how to defend us and attack us. It's time for some changes.

The Bucs have the talent but it's not being utilized to its potential.

(02-10-2019 11:45 AM)Buc76 Wrote:  My take.

The offense is stagnant. No hard screens to get open shots. Our bigs constantly clog up the middle which keeps the guards from being able to drive to middle and kick out to shooters. Spend most if the clock passing ball around the perimeter hoping someone gets an open shot, if no is one open, Bo or Tray tries to drive or some one tries a pass to the bigs or they have to force a shot.

Where is the screen game?
Where are the back door layup/dunk plays?
Where are our inbound plays?

Every opponent doubles our bigs as soon as they catch the ball. Their guards drop down and dig at the ball. This causes confusion, turnovers and bad shots.

The defense is totally predictable. Everyone is left one on one. Armus has only played 1 1/2 years of D1 ball. He cannot be expected to handle 4th and 5th yr players by himself. He and Jerromy get no help and anyone can see the results. The bigs of Wofford, Furman, Samford and Uncg kill us.They can go left or right because there is no offside help or guards dropping down. Even when they can't get off a clear shot, they have a easy outlet pass to their three point shooters, plus by playing them one on one, our bigs pick up fouls early in the game, forcing the Bucs to go small.

Where is the sideline/inbounds trapping defense?
Where is the offside and guard defensive help?

The coaches need to retool the offense and the defense.

Every coach in the league knows how to defend us and attack us. It's time for some changes.

The Bucs have the talent but it's not being utilized to its potential.

Is it then totally on the coaches? Someone like me who does not know the inside details of basketball just saw a a horrible, uncalled for performance. My other question is can the coaches fix it? I guess we will find out Thursday...

ETSU had a pretty good turnout at the game, about a 100 or so fans, but obviously a non-factor in the crowd. Furman's arena is nice but very high-school, and the crowd was quiet, only standing to cheer one time when Furman went up by 30.

However they know the very simple art of putting the student section floor-level along the sideline, and they were obnoxious and messed with our bench nonstop. I wish ETSU would employ that same scheme.

In the four year's I've watched Forbes, I've never seen him as angry as I did this game. More than one time he got into the faces of his players wagging his finger and yelling during timeouts. He lost it on the refs a couple times, resulting in that frustration technical.

N'Guessan was obsolete, and seemed indifferent throughout the entire game.

(02-10-2019 12:34 PM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  However they know the very simple art of putting the student section floor-level along the sideline, and they were obnoxious and messed with our bench nonstop. I wish ETSU would employ that same scheme.

Of course agree about ETSU needing to up the student factor. But........Furple WAY over-hyped the crowd predictions. They officially listed it as a sell-out well in advance because they held back too many student tickets, resulting in an arena that was NOT full, or really close to it. Good crowd, but they blew it in terms of maximizing the potential.

(02-10-2019 01:14 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote:  

(02-10-2019 12:34 PM)ForbesSalary Wrote:  However they know the very simple art of putting the student section floor-level along the sideline, and they were obnoxious and messed with our bench nonstop. I wish ETSU would employ that same scheme.

Of course agree about ETSU needing to up the student factor. But........Furple WAY over-hyped the crowd predictions. They officially listed it as a sell-out well in advance because they held back too many student tickets, resulting in an arena that was NOT full, or really close to it. Good crowd, but they blew it in terms of maximizing the potential.

There are several “high school gyms” that Bucs have to play in, Furman being one of them. Seems to be only one TV camera to cover whole court.

(02-10-2019 11:51 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  Is it then totally on the coaches? Someone like me who does not know the inside details of basketball just saw a a horrible, uncalled for performance. My other question is can the coaches fix it? I guess we will find out Thursday...

I agree with Buc76's take on the offense. It's staid and predictable. The bigs handle the ball too much on the perimeter, where they are simply no threat. We don't clear the lanes for our best drivers, Hodges and Boyd. Basically, our offense is not very good at putting each player in position to maximize his advantages. When our offense does do well, it's largely because we field superior athletes.

On defense, I think the staff does a good job of identifying and attacking the other team's offensive strengths. When we struggle, I think it is usually a matter of player effort (or, rather, the lack of it). Last night, time after time, Furman players simply drove right by our defenders. That's just poor effort on the part of the players.

Coach Forbes told us in the beginning that he recruits offense and teaches defense. I agree that it's easier to teach the latter, and I think our coaches are good at it. But, in the future, I think the team would benefit greatly if the staff added a knowledgable, innovative, offense-minded coach.

Wonder how practice went this morning? I dare say there were some suicides involved.

(02-11-2019 09:27 AM)Bucfreak23 Wrote:  Wonder how practice went this morning? I dare say there were some suicides involved.

Coach Forbes was on the radio this morning. I was on the road and couldn't make any notes, but here is the gist of what I remember hearing.

-Practice this morning was at 6 AM. He called it "Boot Camp." There was no ball involved. They will practice today again at 3:30. They will probably go again 2 times tomorrow, but without the "Boot Camp" as he said he needs to be smart about that this time of year and not make 2 losses into 3. When asked how the team took to the practice, he said he wasn't really sure, but felt that they got his point. His tone suggested that he wasn't particularly concerned with how they viewed it.

-He said that he regretted calling the team's performance "disgraceful," wishing that he had had another 10 minutes to calm down after the game. He was still disappointed and said that there would not be a repeat of the lack of effort in that game. He said that regardless of what he might say about or to the team, he still liked coaching them, but wasn't going to tolerate what he saw Saturday.

-He said that he felt that the Wofford game had aggravated Good's injury and that limited him against Furman.

-He had called Coach Marshall and Coach Gillespie on Sunday to try and "talk himself off of the ledge." Apparently he calls various coaches all the time; he mentioned a high school coach, a JUCO coach and a retired D-1 coach that he speaks to frequently (all unnamed) in order to get advice and to balance out his own view of the game and season.

-He expressed especial disappointment in the last 8 games where ETSU has allowed teams to shoot at too high a rate from 3.

-When asked about Boyd and his defense, he said that neither he nor Tucker were recruited for their defense, though he felt that they were better at this point defensively than when they arrived, but both were going to have to improve a great deal.

-When asked about N'Guessan's lack of impact, he said that he felt that a large part of the problem is guard play. He doesn't feel that guards are getting him the ball in a good position. He said that some of N'Guessan's problem is that he gets knocked off his position at times, but he still feels that the ball needs to go into him, not just once, but multiple times in a possession to take advantage of his size. This, of course, is part of his general complaint this season, which he expressed again, that the guards are taking too many shots from outside without exploring the inside first. He said that was amplified Saturday, by the way that Rodriguez was able to score seemingly every time he got the ball inside, but shots kept being thrown up from outside.

(02-11-2019 10:15 AM)BigIslandBuc Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 09:27 AM)Bucfreak23 Wrote:  Wonder how practice went this morning? I dare say there were some suicides involved.

Coach Forbes was on the radio this morning. I was on the road and couldn't make any notes, but here is the gist of what I remember hearing.

-Practice this morning was at 6 AM. He called it "Boot Camp." There was no ball involved. They will practice today again at 3:30. They will probably go again 2 times tomorrow, but without the "Boot Camp" as he said he needs to be smart about that this time of year and not make 2 losses into 3. When asked how the team took to the practice, he said he wasn't really sure, but felt that they got his point. His tone suggested that he wasn't particularly concerned with how they viewed it.

-He said that he regretted calling the team's performance "disgraceful," wishing that he had had another 10 minutes to calm down after the game. He was still disappointed and said that there would not be a repeat of the lack of effort in that game. He said that regardless of what he might say about or to the team, he still liked coaching them, but wasn't going to tolerate what he saw Saturday.

-He said that he felt that the Wofford game had aggravated Good's injury and that limited him against Furman.

-He had called Coach Marshall and Coach Gillespie on Sunday to try and "talk himself off of the ledge." Apparently he calls various coaches all the time; he mentioned a high school coach, a JUCO coach and a retired D-1 coach that he speaks to frequently (all unnamed) in order to get advice and to balance out his own view of the game and season.

-He expressed especial disappointment in the last 8 games where ETSU has allowed teams to shoot at too high a rate from 3.

-When asked about Boyd and his defense, he said that neither he nor Tucker were recruited for their defense, though he felt that they were better at this point defensively than when they arrived, but both were going to have to improve a great deal.

-When asked about N'Guessan's lack of impact, he said that he felt that a large part of the problem is guard play. He doesn't feel that guards are getting him the ball in a good position. He said that some of N'Guessan's problem is that he gets knocked off his position at times, but he still feels that the ball needs to go into him, not just once, but multiple times in a possession to take advantage of his size. This, of course, is part of his general complaint this season, which he expressed again, that the guards are taking too many shots from outside without exploring the inside first. He said that was amplified Saturday, by the way that Rodriguez was able to score seemingly every time he got the ball inside, but shots kept being thrown up from outside.

Excellent summary for those of us who can’t listen. I’ve said all along Bucs have no point guard. Maybe what I should have said is Bucs have no point guard play. I think only person on team who should have green light to jack up an early three is Good. Other than that the ball needs to go inside first. Subsequently once bigs get ball they need to stop dribbling around so much. Maybe they should watch game film of what other teams are doing to us. Inside/out would actually improve Bucs three shooting.

I heard that the Boot Camp practice went well. Forbes always says that he likes this team so lets see where this goes. It's good timing for the end of our season into the tournament for a check from the neck up kinda reality.....Go Bucs

It's always tough for me to get info way down in Florida, but thanks to this blog and all the great smart diciples on it I've really enjoyed the info. Being a fan for well over 40 years from the outside, I am now able to feel closer....

(02-11-2019 08:20 PM)James Wilson Wrote:  I heard that the Boot Camp practice went well. Forbes always says that he likes this team so lets see where this goes. It's good timing for the end of our season into the tournament for a check from the neck up kinda reality.....Go Bucs

Down the homestretch — who can now get it done through tourney? How can Wofford and Greensboro keep this pace? Will one or both burn out, hit a slump? Will these last two outings be the Bucs’ slump and they have learned a lesson to turn it back on for the final run?

(02-11-2019 11:30 AM)Bucfreak23 Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 10:15 AM)BigIslandBuc Wrote:  

(02-11-2019 09:27 AM)Bucfreak23 Wrote:  Wonder how practice went this morning? I dare say there were some suicides involved.

Coach Forbes was on the radio this morning. I was on the road and couldn't make any notes, but here is the gist of what I remember hearing.

-Practice this morning was at 6 AM. He called it "Boot Camp." There was no ball involved. They will practice today again at 3:30. They will probably go again 2 times tomorrow, but without the "Boot Camp" as he said he needs to be smart about that this time of year and not make 2 losses into 3. When asked how the team took to the practice, he said he wasn't really sure, but felt that they got his point. His tone suggested that he wasn't particularly concerned with how they viewed it.

-He said that he regretted calling the team's performance "disgraceful," wishing that he had had another 10 minutes to calm down after the game. He was still disappointed and said that there would not be a repeat of the lack of effort in that game. He said that regardless of what he might say about or to the team, he still liked coaching them, but wasn't going to tolerate what he saw Saturday.

-He said that he felt that the Wofford game had aggravated Good's injury and that limited him against Furman.

-He had called Coach Marshall and Coach Gillespie on Sunday to try and "talk himself off of the ledge." Apparently he calls various coaches all the time; he mentioned a high school coach, a JUCO coach and a retired D-1 coach that he speaks to frequently (all unnamed) in order to get advice and to balance out his own view of the game and season.

-He expressed especial disappointment in the last 8 games where ETSU has allowed teams to shoot at too high a rate from 3.

-When asked about Boyd and his defense, he said that neither he nor Tucker were recruited for their defense, though he felt that they were better at this point defensively than when they arrived, but both were going to have to improve a great deal.

-When asked about N'Guessan's lack of impact, he said that he felt that a large part of the problem is guard play. He doesn't feel that guards are getting him the ball in a good position. He said that some of N'Guessan's problem is that he gets knocked off his position at times, but he still feels that the ball needs to go into him, not just once, but multiple times in a possession to take advantage of his size. This, of course, is part of his general complaint this season, which he expressed again, that the guards are taking too many shots from outside without exploring the inside first. He said that was amplified Saturday, by the way that Rodriguez was able to score seemingly every time he got the ball inside, but shots kept being thrown up from outside.

Excellent summary for those of us who can’t listen. I’ve said all along Bucs have no point guard. Maybe what I should have said is Bucs have no point guard play. I think only person on team who should have green light to jack up an early three is Good. Other than that the ball needs to go inside first. Subsequently once bigs get ball they need to stop dribbling around so much. Maybe they should watch game film of what other teams are doing to us. Inside/out would actually improve Bucs three shooting.

This AP Poll as Wofford in 28th spot.

If Wofford makes it to the SOCON final, loses, and doesn't get an at large, then the system really is broken.

(02-14-2019 10:39 AM)Running_Fool15 Wrote:  If Wofford makes it to the SOCON final, loses, and doesn't get an at large, then the system really is broken.

But we all know the ratings go up if the 18th place team in the Big10 is in the dance and Wofford isn't.

(02-14-2019 10:39 AM)Running_Fool15 Wrote:  If Wofford makes it to the SOCON final, loses, and doesn't get an at large, then the system really is broken.

Not broken —- it’s RIGGED.

(02-14-2019 11:35 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 10:39 AM)Running_Fool15 Wrote:  If Wofford makes it to the SOCON final, loses, and doesn't get an at large, then the system really is broken.

Not broken —- it’s RIGGED.

I wouldn’t say it’s rigged. It’s unfair. Everyone knows going into every season that the winner of SoCon gets in and that’s it. While unfair, it is what it is. What it does do however is give hope to teams like ETSU who are in reality a 3rd-4th place team this year. If a team other than Wofford wins SoCon, they are looking at a very low seed. While UMBC’s do happen, the odds are very slim.