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RE: [news]Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump when filing taxes
(02-08-2019 10:43 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  All of this so the rich can get richer and the poor poorer. We will remember..........................

The CEO of Starbucks is rich but started out poor. He's living the American dream that anybody can make a success of themselves in this country if they work hard enough and smart enough to succeed.

To the crazy Democrats, "rich" is ANYBODY that has more money than they do. When that happens, as it often does, they want to then take some of your money away from you and give it to themselves so that you both then have an equal amount. That's not the American way. Just look at AOC's crazy "Green Deal" that she is promoting which allows for money to be given to people that "don't want to work". Wow!!!

"Income inequality" is one of the main buzz phrases that they throw out that is in line with this Socialist line of thinking. These people along with those that would vote for that are both crazy and against some of the very principals that this country was founded upon. If you want to live in a Socialist country then move to one. Don't try to push it on the rest of us.
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(02-08-2019 11:11 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Mods, please close this trash thread.

It's literal propaganda.

Most of this board is propaganda.
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This thread is bogus sh*t.
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RE: [news]Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump when filing taxes
(02-08-2019 10:52 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 10:39 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 07:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 07:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I made more money last year than the previous year. Paid in less to the state and got s bigger federal refund. I don’t itemize.

I'll never understand why getting a bigger refund is a good thing....

I stopped loaning at zero interest moons ago....

I just set a rate and go. Usually that refund goes into a slush fund and if something comes up or we take a nice vacation we have it.

while I understand the 'no see, no spend' attitude, there are better options....

#discipline

viewed longer term, it's a gimme...

I agree. My wife does that. So all the federal money is based on my salary. However facts remain that we made more and we’re getting more back unlike what Mr. Mach is claiming. One has to wonder how Mach’s taxes went.
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(02-08-2019 11:39 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 10:52 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 10:39 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 07:47 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 07:35 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I made more money last year than the previous year. Paid in less to the state and got s bigger federal refund. I don’t itemize.

I'll never understand why getting a bigger refund is a good thing....

I stopped loaning at zero interest moons ago....

I just set a rate and go. Usually that refund goes into a slush fund and if something comes up or we take a nice vacation we have it.

while I understand the 'no see, no spend' attitude, there are better options....

#discipline

viewed longer term, it's a gimme...

I agree. My wife does that. So all the federal money is based on my salary. However facts remain that we made more and we’re getting more back unlike what Mr. Mach is claiming. One has to wonder how Mach’s taxes went.

his should be simple to counteract regardless of any change....

in his enviro, one can manipulate withholding during the course of the year.....
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RE: [news]Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump when filing taxes
(02-08-2019 11:08 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Mach.

Dude, wtf. The guy that posted that picture himself knows they're fake. He's laughing about it in the comments, about how he baited some real people with it and retweeted them.



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Point taken, as there’s always people upset about political decisions that impact them negatively.

But these accts appear to all be fake.

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@Tide46 - 17
@deeebeeezz - 41
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Did you notice all the actual real people who replied to my tweet though? I retweeted some of them.

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Yeah, just continually disappointed in how many fake and trolling accts here - both sides. But you know that. :)

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I’m just waiting for those fake accts to start protesting how real they are. Lol ?

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Just A Girl ? ?


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Omg I have one lady already doing that to me haha. Says she lost her account. Smh

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These look like bot tweets. Russians trying to stir up civil discord? ??‍♀️ They are all too similar.

links?
I cannot find this in the thread OP posted.
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RE: [news]Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump when filing taxes
(02-08-2019 12:02 PM)q5sys Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 11:08 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Mach.

Dude, wtf. The guy that posted that picture himself knows they're fake. He's laughing about it in the comments, about how he baited some real people with it and retweeted them.



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Point taken, as there’s always people upset about political decisions that impact them negatively.

But these accts appear to all be fake.

@Amuddrslr - 6 followers
@MattDav72811123 - 1
@distorion12345 - 30
@ShelbyKuh - 5
@Tide46 - 17
@deeebeeezz - 41
‘Yankees’ - no tweet found


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Did you notice all the actual real people who replied to my tweet though? I retweeted some of them.

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Yeah, just continually disappointed in how many fake and trolling accts here - both sides. But you know that. :)

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I’m just waiting for those fake accts to start protesting how real they are. Lol ?

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Just A Girl ? ?


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Omg I have one lady already doing that to me haha. Says she lost her account. Smh

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These look like bot tweets. Russians trying to stir up civil discord? ??‍♀️ They are all too similar.

links?
I cannot find this in the thread OP posted.

Here. The tweet in the OP is a reply to the original tweet. Click the picture, and scroll down the comments.

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RE: [news]Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump when filing taxes
(02-08-2019 10:43 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  All of this so the rich can get richer and the poor poorer. We will remember..........................

You so full of ****...no one poor is paying more taxes. NO ONE! Most poor people have at least one child and that alone reduces your taxes by up to $2000 with the Child Tax Credit. Then there's the EIC that adds THOUSANDS with a credit. Plus I believe another $6,000 bump on HOH from last year.

stop playing that bull**** of the poor being hurt with taxes. Stupid ass.
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Notice they tagged the alt-leftists most likely to be duped by their bias and run to report this as fact on TV or in print -- ana navarro, bakari sellers, a Vox contributor, and an "Essence" contributor.

They're baiting people for the LOLs. This is 4chan shite.
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(02-08-2019 12:10 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 12:02 PM)q5sys Wrote:  links?
I cannot find this in the thread OP posted.

Here. The tweet in the OP is a reply to the original tweet. Click the picture, and scroll down the comments.



Awesome, thanks buddy!
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In the past 2/3 of tax returns were NOT itemized, the vast majority of those folks will be realizing a tax cut. The remaining 1/3 most likely saw a decrease unless like me they live in a high tax state.

Myself, I saw a 10% increase in federal income taxes paid, the result of living in a high tax state and my income.
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(02-08-2019 06:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  They messed with the withholding tables too

Which only demonstrates that these people are not telling the truth.

There is a difference between having 10,000 withheld from your 50,000 paycheck... owing 8,000 in taxes and getting a 2,000 refund and having 8,000 withheld from your 50,000 paycheck and getting zero refund.

And only an idiot calls that a tax hike. Not saying that this represents every situation, but you're saying it's because of withholding, which doesn't have anything to do with the amount of taxes you pay.

Just whether you pay it every paycheck or in April.


(02-08-2019 07:03 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

Middle class feeling betrayed by Trump.


Lol

Did you read those?

So, some high school “civics” teacher got her students to make up a bunch of “I voted for Trump, but won’t next time” boiler plate Twitter posts.

Like, that’s like awesome, right?

Put down the glass, push away from the table, stand up, take a breath.

It’s gonna be a loooong 6 years for you otherwise 04-coffee

There are just as many 'I didn't vote for him and I'm better off' memes that are just as valid.

For the left to argue that Trump has been smart enough to collude with Russia to pull off the greatest scam in the history of the world and go virtually undetected in terms of hard evidence or even a clear trail... and yet the withholding tables are going to bring him down because people who voted for him don't like keeping more of their money and not giving the government an interest free loan is ridiculous. I could be wrong but I believe he literally campaigned on this. I know lots who voted for him support that idea
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(02-08-2019 10:32 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Oh, well if a bunch of faceless twitter accounts (likely bots) said so..

Mach doesn't realize he's being lied to again....
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(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.

I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.
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(02-08-2019 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 10:32 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Oh, well if a bunch of faceless twitter accounts (likely bots) said so..

Mach doesn't realize he's being lied to again....

Let the tendies hit the floor
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(02-08-2019 01:09 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 04:05 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.

I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.

And yet I dont believe you. The only way you have a $2K flip on the same income is that you werent paying your fair share to begin with.
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(02-08-2019 01:09 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 04:05 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.

I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.

"here here" hoping you graduate....

you'll continue to make my job less painful....
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(02-08-2019 01:09 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 04:05 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.

I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.


So did your make essentially the same this year as last and did your tax burden actually go up? Or was less merely withheld and thus instead of getting back, you owe?
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(02-08-2019 01:09 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 04:05 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.
I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.

Then unless you've seen a significant uptick in income (thank you, Trump), or there was a major mistake somewhere, your story is difficult to believe. Perhaps it could happen if you had a large charitable or medical or other itemized deductions last year but not repeated this year. But absent some major change in income or deductions, your story seems very unlikely. The dynamics of tax determination simply don't work that way.

Anybody can say anything on a message board, whether true or not. In order to make me believe that your story is true, you'd have to provide more details about your tax situation, and frankly I would not recommend providing that information in this kind of forum.
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(02-08-2019 02:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 01:09 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 04:05 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  
(02-08-2019 02:55 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/...32057.html
I wonder how many of these people live in high tax states like California, or have large mortgage balances? Those are the only ways I could see these scenarios realistically happening.
I'm neither of those and have seen a near $2k flip from last year. But, c'est la vie. I'm a progressive and taxes be taxes.

Then unless you've seen a significant uptick in income (thank you, Trump), or there was a major mistake somewhere, your story is difficult to believe. Perhaps it could happen if you had a large charitable or medical or other itemized deductions last year but not repeated this year. But absent some major change in income or deductions, your story seems very unlikely. The dynamics of tax determination simply don't work that way.

Anybody can say anything on a message board, whether true or not. In order to make me believe that your story is true, you'd have to provide more details about your tax situation, and frankly I would not recommend providing that information in this kind of forum.


Well he could have had gambling debts he wrote off last year....

but this year he failed to pay them so he couldn't write it off? Could be, we seen that action before. But then again his word is not very reliable so thats very possible
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