(03-12-2019 11:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 08:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 08:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  So where are the deal details?

Aresco muzzled the Memphis administration - I'm sure to control the message.

He can't actually do that, you know.

Anyway, the wait goes on.

Pro sports commissioners enforce gag orders with six and seven digit fines to owners, usually Mark Cuban, JErry Jones (what is it with DAllas) or Raiders ownership

That's a situation where the other owners have given the commissioner that authority, and they can do *that* because all owners have their franchises via the league. The league, the NFL, has ultimate authority.

That's not the case with college conference commissioners. No conference can dictate to a university what it can and can't say. The universities create the conference, not vice-versa.

(03-12-2019 12:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 08:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 08:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  So where are the deal details?

Aresco muzzled the Memphis administration - I'm sure to control the message.

He can't actually do that, you know.

Anyway, the wait goes on.

Pro sports commissioners enforce gag orders with six and seven digit fines to owners, usually Mark Cuban, JErry Jones (what is it with DAllas) or Raiders ownership

That's a situation where the other owners have given the commissioner that authority, and they can do *that* because all owners have their franchises via the league. The league, the NFL, has ultimate authority.

That's not the case with college conference commissioners. No conference can dictate to a university what it can and can't say. The universities create the conference, not vice-versa.

That depends on the bylaws written by the schools involved. But to go further, I'd be speculating based on even less information than we usually have on this board about documents (new AAC bylaws, Aresco's contract) I'll probably never see.

(03-12-2019 02:49 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 12:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 08:36 AM)usffan Wrote:  Aresco muzzled the Memphis administration - I'm sure to control the message.

He can't actually do that, you know.

Anyway, the wait goes on.

Pro sports commissioners enforce gag orders with six and seven digit fines to owners, usually Mark Cuban, JErry Jones (what is it with DAllas) or Raiders ownership

That's a situation where the other owners have given the commissioner that authority, and they can do *that* because all owners have their franchises via the league. The league, the NFL, has ultimate authority.

That's not the case with college conference commissioners. No conference can dictate to a university what it can and can't say. The universities create the conference, not vice-versa.

That depends on the bylaws written by the schools involved. But to go further, I'd be speculating based on even less information than we usually have on this board about documents (new AAC bylaws, Aresco's contract) I'll probably never see.

I agree with you about the speculative nature of this exchange. But let me ask you - whereas we all know about cases where commissioners of sports leagues have fined or otherwise publicly sanctioned owners of franchises, can you recall a single case where a commissioner of a conference has been able to fine or otherwise muzzle under the threat of fines and the like a member university?

I can't.

(03-13-2019 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 02:49 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 12:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 10:07 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  He can't actually do that, you know.

Anyway, the wait goes on.

Pro sports commissioners enforce gag orders with six and seven digit fines to owners, usually Mark Cuban, JErry Jones (what is it with DAllas) or Raiders ownership

That's a situation where the other owners have given the commissioner that authority, and they can do *that* because all owners have their franchises via the league. The league, the NFL, has ultimate authority.

That's not the case with college conference commissioners. No conference can dictate to a university what it can and can't say. The universities create the conference, not vice-versa.

That depends on the bylaws written by the schools involved. But to go further, I'd be speculating based on even less information than we usually have on this board about documents (new AAC bylaws, Aresco's contract) I'll probably never see.

I agree with you about the speculative nature of this exchange. But let me ask you - whereas we all know about cases where commissioners of sports leagues have fined or otherwise publicly sanctioned owners of franchises, can you recall a single case where a commissioner of a conference has been able to fine or otherwise muzzle under the threat of fines and the like a member university?

I can't.

Schools pay conferences fines for storming the court. Link

Conferences fine coaches for criticizing officials. Link from 2009

Is fining school presidents for talking out-of-turn about the league's media contract negotiations really that different than fining coaches for talking out-of-turn about the league's game-day officials?

Well, we may know sooner the MW TV deal before the AAC.

(03-13-2019 12:03 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Well, we may know sooner the MW TV deal before the AAC.

I believe your right, especially if the AAC is currently shopping second and third tier rights around right now. However no one really knows what is going on at this point since Aresco told the Memphis President and AD to zip it while the contract / contracts are being hashed out.

(03-13-2019 11:10 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-13-2019 09:10 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 02:49 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 12:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  Pro sports commissioners enforce gag orders with six and seven digit fines to owners, usually Mark Cuban, JErry Jones (what is it with DAllas) or Raiders ownership

That's a situation where the other owners have given the commissioner that authority, and they can do *that* because all owners have their franchises via the league. The league, the NFL, has ultimate authority.

That's not the case with college conference commissioners. No conference can dictate to a university what it can and can't say. The universities create the conference, not vice-versa.

That depends on the bylaws written by the schools involved. But to go further, I'd be speculating based on even less information than we usually have on this board about documents (new AAC bylaws, Aresco's contract) I'll probably never see.

I agree with you about the speculative nature of this exchange. But let me ask you - whereas we all know about cases where commissioners of sports leagues have fined or otherwise publicly sanctioned owners of franchises, can you recall a single case where a commissioner of a conference has been able to fine or otherwise muzzle under the threat of fines and the like a member university?

I can't.

Schools pay conferences fines for storming the court. Link

Conferences fine coaches for criticizing officials. Link from 2009

Is fining school presidents for talking out-of-turn about the league's media contract negotiations really that different than fining coaches for talking out-of-turn about the league's game-day officials?

Not fining coaches, but i thought the issue here was the Memphis president or other high official was making the comments.

Conferences can fine athletic personnel - coaches, because the conference is an athletic entity. But academic officials? I don't think so.