https://twitter.com/ARAlvarado13/status/...86624?s=20

Alex on Smith coming to EMU.

What I love about the OL signees is there upside. Three were highly recruited by P5 schools. Eaton had a lot of offers. Rewolinski was recruited late by Syracuse (tried to poach him). Smith had a lot of P5 offers and was going to sign with Indiana.

And we need to see how Dimitri Douglas works out. He obviously was a MSU signee and player.

Eventually this type of recruiting will pay off. As folks are fond of saying: "Talent wins."

(04-16-2020 06:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ARAlvarado13/status/...86624?s=20

Alex on Smith coming to EMU.

What I love about the OL signees is there upside. Three were highly recruited by P5 schools. Eaton had a lot of offers. Rewolinski was recruited late by Syracuse (tried to poach him). Smith had a lot of P5 offers and was going to sign with Indiana.

And we need to see how Dimitri Douglas works out. He obviously was a MSU signee and player.

Eventually this type of recruiting will pay off. As folks are fond of saying: "Talent wins."

TALENT WINS! You nailed it! 17 3 star recruits in this 2020 class, and somehow we weren't in the top 5 in the MAC! E Mich football has never to my knowledge recruited this well!

(04-16-2020 11:30 AM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(04-16-2020 06:00 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/ARAlvarado13/status/...86624?s=20

Alex on Smith coming to EMU.

What I love about the OL signees is there upside. Three were highly recruited by P5 schools. Eaton had a lot of offers. Rewolinski was recruited late by Syracuse (tried to poach him). Smith had a lot of P5 offers and was going to sign with Indiana.

And we need to see how Dimitri Douglas works out. He obviously was a MSU signee and player.

Eventually this type of recruiting will pay off. As folks are fond of saying: "Talent wins."

TALENT WINS! You nailed it! 17 3 star recruits in this 2020 class, and somehow we weren't in the top 5 in the MAC! E Mich football has never to my knowledge recruited this well!

I don't take these star rankings too seriously (247sports has a lot of 'grade inflation.)

THAT SAID, I look at individual recruits and ask is this the type of player we were recruiting 5, 10, or 15 years ago?

There is NO DOUBT in my mind that we have leveled the playing field with a lot of our MAC opponents, something which can not be said of 10 or 20 years ago.

We can legitimately saying that our recruits are at least MAC caliber recruits.

As C.C. has noted, the next class (2021) will be first for which all of the H.S. recruits have been recruited since the SAPC has been completed.

This photo (the SAPC isn't completed yet) shows what the West Campus looks like (and even this photo doesn't show the Convo, a beautiful building).

https://static.emueagles.com/custompages...rson_3.jpg

(04-15-2020 02:31 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 12:13 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Maybe, this is our Lee and JTIV, not for the same reasons obviously, but Creighton taking A chance on someone! I bet he starts in the fall! Those offers aren't where MAC players go.......ala JTIV.........

Doubt he starts. True freshmen OL rarely see the field and I dont think one ever has on an EMU team since CC had been here. There's depth and experience ahead of him.

Nice player to get for the future though. If he had academic issues he could really use a redshirt year so he could learn how to be a college student before worrying about playing on Saturdays.

Great recruit, but I agree in doubting he starts as a freshman. There is a HUGE difference strength-wise between high school O-Linemen and college O-Linemen. When Alex came on board (Class of 2018) he was far and away the strongest guy on his high school team. He was nowhere ready to compete strength-wise with upperclass linemen like Leatiota and Nielsen.

Aside from strength is quickness. Again, there is a huge difference between high school and college. At 340, they will want him to cut a good deal of weight. Alex came in at 6-4 and 320. They are working hard to keep him right around the 295-300 mark, even as he has added considerable muscle mass.

Finally, technique is learned in the first couple of years. Blocking schemes and the skill to work them comes with repetitive practice. An incoming freshman O-Lineman who had the right combination of strength, weight, and technique to start as a freshman would be a very rare creature, and at 6-6, would be a target for the UM's and OSU's of the world (e.g. Michael Jordan who played at OSU and is now in the NFL, having left college early).

I agree that EMU has done a great job recruiting O-Linemen, and that over the next few years will likely have one of the top (if not the top) OLs in the MAC. I am, admittedly, a bit bias on that point, though....

(04-17-2020 12:06 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 02:31 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 12:13 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Maybe, this is our Lee and JTIV, not for the same reasons obviously, but Creighton taking A chance on someone! I bet he starts in the fall! Those offers aren't where MAC players go.......ala JTIV.........

Doubt he starts. True freshmen OL rarely see the field and I dont think one ever has on an EMU team since CC had been here. There's depth and experience ahead of him.

Nice player to get for the future though. If he had academic issues he could really use a redshirt year so he could learn how to be a college student before worrying about playing on Saturdays.

Great recruit, but I agree in doubting he starts as a freshman. There is a HUGE difference strength-wise between high school O-Linemen and college O-Linemen. When Alex came on board (Class of 2018) he was far and away the strongest guy on his high school team. He was nowhere ready to compete strength-wise with upperclass linemen like Leatiota and Nielsen.

Aside from strength is quickness. Again, there is a huge difference between high school and college. At 340, they will want him to cut a good deal of weight. Alex came in at 6-4 and 320. They are working hard to keep him right around the 295-300 mark, even as he has added considerable muscle mass.

Finally, technique is learned in the first couple of years. Blocking schemes and the skill to work them comes with repetitive practice. An incoming freshman O-Lineman who had the right combination of strength, weight, and technique to start as a freshman would be a very rare creature, and at 6-6, would be a target for the UM's and OSU's of the world (e.g. Michael Jordan who played at OSU and is now in the NFL, having left college early).

I agree that EMU has done a great job recruiting O-Linemen, and that over the next few years will likely have one of the top (if not the top) OLs in the MAC. I am, admittedly, a bit bias on that point, though....

You're probably correct, especially since CC likes to redshirt his freshman! But, he played in high school at Belleville which produces a ton of D1 talent, his size 6'6" 340 is ridiculous, and his offers dictate he's not A typical MAC commit, and the only reason he came to EMU is his circumstances! JTIV and Ray Lee in basketball were similar with there offers, size, and talent! This is what PJ Fleck recruited for 3 straight seasons, Big 10 talent! If CC gives this kid a fair shot, and his academic issues are behind him, he should dominate at the MAC level simply with that size, competition in high school, and all those P5 offers! We were his only MAC offer I believe! But, CC will redshirt him! That's his style, and so is his loyalty, and I don't see him changing that in his 7th season!

(04-17-2020 02:41 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 12:06 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 02:31 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 12:13 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Maybe, this is our Lee and JTIV, not for the same reasons obviously, but Creighton taking A chance on someone! I bet he starts in the fall! Those offers aren't where MAC players go.......ala JTIV.........

Doubt he starts. True freshmen OL rarely see the field and I dont think one ever has on an EMU team since CC had been here. There's depth and experience ahead of him.

Nice player to get for the future though. If he had academic issues he could really use a redshirt year so he could learn how to be a college student before worrying about playing on Saturdays.

Great recruit, but I agree in doubting he starts as a freshman. There is a HUGE difference strength-wise between high school O-Linemen and college O-Linemen. When Alex came on board (Class of 2018) he was far and away the strongest guy on his high school team. He was nowhere ready to compete strength-wise with upperclass linemen like Leatiota and Nielsen.

Aside from strength is quickness. Again, there is a huge difference between high school and college. At 340, they will want him to cut a good deal of weight. Alex came in at 6-4 and 320. They are working hard to keep him right around the 295-300 mark, even as he has added considerable muscle mass.

Finally, technique is learned in the first couple of years. Blocking schemes and the skill to work them comes with repetitive practice. An incoming freshman O-Lineman who had the right combination of strength, weight, and technique to start as a freshman would be a very rare creature, and at 6-6, would be a target for the UM's and OSU's of the world (e.g. Michael Jordan who played at OSU and is now in the NFL, having left college early).

I agree that EMU has done a great job recruiting O-Linemen, and that over the next few years will likely have one of the top (if not the top) OLs in the MAC. I am, admittedly, a bit bias on that point, though....

You're probably correct, especially since CC likes to redshirt his freshman! But, he played in high school at Belleville which produces a ton of D1 talent, his size 6'6" 340 is ridiculous, and his offers dictate he's not A typical MAC commit, and the only reason he came to EMU is his circumstances! JTIV and Ray Lee in basketball were similar with there offers, size, and talent! This is what PJ Fleck recruited for 3 straight seasons, Big 10 talent! If CC gives this kid a fair shot, and his academic issues are behind him, he should dominate at the MAC level simply with that size, competition in high school, and all those P5 offers! We were his only MAC offer I believe! But, CC will redshirt him! That's his style, and so is his loyalty, and I don't see him changing that in his 7th season!

He is a good prospect (ranked say 35 - 40) in his MI h.s. senior class.

I would not compare him to JTIV, who easily was a high major talent.

I think he'll need to drop some weight, too.

He is the type of prospect who will need work but can be as good as he wants to be.

(04-17-2020 02:50 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 02:41 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 12:06 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 02:31 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 12:13 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  Maybe, this is our Lee and JTIV, not for the same reasons obviously, but Creighton taking A chance on someone! I bet he starts in the fall! Those offers aren't where MAC players go.......ala JTIV.........

Doubt he starts. True freshmen OL rarely see the field and I dont think one ever has on an EMU team since CC had been here. There's depth and experience ahead of him.

Nice player to get for the future though. If he had academic issues he could really use a redshirt year so he could learn how to be a college student before worrying about playing on Saturdays.

Great recruit, but I agree in doubting he starts as a freshman. There is a HUGE difference strength-wise between high school O-Linemen and college O-Linemen. When Alex came on board (Class of 2018) he was far and away the strongest guy on his high school team. He was nowhere ready to compete strength-wise with upperclass linemen like Leatiota and Nielsen.

Aside from strength is quickness. Again, there is a huge difference between high school and college. At 340, they will want him to cut a good deal of weight. Alex came in at 6-4 and 320. They are working hard to keep him right around the 295-300 mark, even as he has added considerable muscle mass.

Finally, technique is learned in the first couple of years. Blocking schemes and the skill to work them comes with repetitive practice. An incoming freshman O-Lineman who had the right combination of strength, weight, and technique to start as a freshman would be a very rare creature, and at 6-6, would be a target for the UM's and OSU's of the world (e.g. Michael Jordan who played at OSU and is now in the NFL, having left college early).

I agree that EMU has done a great job recruiting O-Linemen, and that over the next few years will likely have one of the top (if not the top) OLs in the MAC. I am, admittedly, a bit bias on that point, though....

You're probably correct, especially since CC likes to redshirt his freshman! But, he played in high school at Belleville which produces a ton of D1 talent, his size 6'6" 340 is ridiculous, and his offers dictate he's not A typical MAC commit, and the only reason he came to EMU is his circumstances! JTIV and Ray Lee in basketball were similar with there offers, size, and talent! This is what PJ Fleck recruited for 3 straight seasons, Big 10 talent! If CC gives this kid a fair shot, and his academic issues are behind him, he should dominate at the MAC level simply with that size, competition in high school, and all those P5 offers! We were his only MAC offer I believe! But, CC will redshirt him! That's his style, and so is his loyalty, and I don't see him changing that in his 7th season!

He is a good prospect (ranked say 35 - 40) in his MI h.s. senior class.

I would not compare him to JTIV, who easily was a high major talent.

I think he'll need to drop some weight, too.

He is the type of prospect who will need work but can be as good as he wants to be.

Who was the left tackle I believe Fleck recruited to W Mich, who was A 2nd or 3rd round draft pick in the NFL draft a few years ago? Very similar to this kid, had numerous P5 offers, but Fleck sold him on being a starter at W Mich, this kid has that same kinda size! I've said this numerous times, you can't teach size, speed, or agility! TALENT wins 95 percent off the time! Why does OHIO ST own MICHIGAN? TALENT, SPEED, AND SIZE!

https://www.mlive.com/highschoolsports/2...higan.html

(04-16-2020 01:55 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Just for reference:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports...663453001/

As h.s. recruits don't need a passing ACT or SAT score for 2020 (because of the problems administering those tests), wonder if we:

1). Have any scholarships open,

2). Interested in recruits who were headed to JUCO. E.g., 40. Joshua Wiley, 6-2, 195, S, River Rouge – Independence Community College (Kansas)

https://247sports.com/college/eastern-mi...Interests/

Wonder if the staff knows of any more players won't be back in 2020? (normally some decide to transfer, etc. after spring ball ends, but this year spring ball ended virtually before it began).

Wonder if we are done recruiting 2020?

Here is an example of who was looking at Wiley, a highly regarded safety who was headed to JUCO.

https://247sports.com/college/eastern-mi...Interests/

This is another example. A very highly regarded dual threat QB EMU recruited who signed to go JUCO.

Once again, if he has grades but not the test scores, he can go D-I this fall.

https://247sports.com/Player/Mekhi-Hagens-46040512/

https://twitter.com/mekhi_hagens/status/...23778?s=20

Will we see a trickle of JUCO signees reverse course and sign D-I?

http://www.easternecho.com/article/2020/...om-indiana

Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

(05-17-2020 02:33 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

(05-17-2020 04:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 02:33 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

(05-17-2020 04:43 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 02:33 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

Who knows. He might end up an OT.

The star receiver on that Fullerton team is Andre Rison's son, Hunter, who transferred there after some problems at Kansas State.

(05-17-2020 06:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:43 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 02:33 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

Who knows. He might end up an OT.

The star receiver on that Fullerton team is Andre Rison's son, Hunter, who transferred there after some problems at Kansas State.

I saw Rison on their 2019 roster. There was even an OL from Whitmer HS in Toledo. I also thought the OT thing about Luft. Wonder if he was able to maintain his 4.9/40 speed with the weight gain? I'm sure he's had some significant strength gains with the growth.

(05-17-2020 06:28 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 06:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:43 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 02:33 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Look like we made a late offer to Lucas Loft a 6'7 250 TE from Fullerton CC who graduates this spring. Maybe someone decided to graduate and not come back or transfer out.

Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

Who knows. He might end up an OT.

The star receiver on that Fullerton team is Andre Rison's son, Hunter, who transferred there after some problems at Kansas State.

I saw Rison on their 2019 roster. There was even an OL from Whitmer HS in Toledo. I also thought the OT thing about Luft. Wonder if he was able to maintain his 4.9/40 speed with the weight gain? I'm sure he's had some significant strength gains with the growth.

Maybe 3 for 2 and use a redshirt year to bulk up for OT? Think Cole Gardner.

I looked at his highlight from the Palomar game. Maybe a TE who is mostly a blocker and catches < 10 passes a year.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/3294047/Lucas-Luft

Don't know how reliable this information is, but here it is. Tons of college and high school player rankings.

https://www.gridironrr.com/teams/default...all&p=home

(05-18-2020 06:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 06:28 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 06:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:43 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Strange. Completely under the radar. No offers.

Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

Who knows. He might end up an OT.

The star receiver on that Fullerton team is Andre Rison's son, Hunter, who transferred there after some problems at Kansas State.

I saw Rison on their 2019 roster. There was even an OL from Whitmer HS in Toledo. I also thought the OT thing about Luft. Wonder if he was able to maintain his 4.9/40 speed with the weight gain? I'm sure he's had some significant strength gains with the growth.

Maybe 3 for 2 and use a redshirt year to bulk up for OT? Think Cole Gardner.

I looked at his highlight from the Palomar game. Maybe a TE who is mostly a blocker and catches < 10 passes a year.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/3294047/Lucas-Luft

I looked at the Jr yr HS highlights. Decent route runner and hands. Made some plays on poorly thrown balls . Alot of times he'll be matched up
on a LB'er, at 6'7" definitely causing a mismatch.

(05-18-2020 08:02 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-18-2020 06:37 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 06:28 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 06:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-17-2020 04:43 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Lucas Luft. Was 6'4" 195 lbs WR in HS. Obviously, physically a late bloomer. TE with some WR skills.

Who knows. He might end up an OT.

The star receiver on that Fullerton team is Andre Rison's son, Hunter, who transferred there after some problems at Kansas State.

I saw Rison on their 2019 roster. There was even an OL from Whitmer HS in Toledo. I also thought the OT thing about Luft. Wonder if he was able to maintain his 4.9/40 speed with the weight gain? I'm sure he's had some significant strength gains with the growth.

Maybe 3 for 2 and use a redshirt year to bulk up for OT? Think Cole Gardner.

I looked at his highlight from the Palomar game. Maybe a TE who is mostly a blocker and catches < 10 passes a year.

https://www.hudl.com/profile/3294047/Lucas-Luft

I looked at the Jr yr HS highlights. Decent route runner and hands. Made some plays on poorly thrown balls . Alot of times he'll be matched up
on a LB'er, at 6'7" definitely causing a mismatch.

I see him as a 'niche' TE. Second TE in running situations for blocking and occasionally leaking out over the middle for that 1st down producing catch.

I saw one such play (vs. Palamor??) where he let the DE rush the QB unblocked while he went over the middle for a nice catch.