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mbb vs Ball State (Welcome to bizarro world)
Check out the common opponents (conclusion - DON'T BET ON THIS GAME):
Ohio: NIU sweeps, BSU losses both
CMU: BSU wins at CMU, NIU losses at home
Toledo: BSU wins at Toledo, NIU losses at home
Miami: NIU wins at Miami, BSU losses at home.

They both did lose to Kent.

NET ranking: BSU 104 NIU 130
KenPom: BSU 112 NIU 117

Huskie shooting percentages are tanking. Will they bounce back. Game Tue at Convo and I don't know what time or what ESPN network. Kind of bummed after Toledo.

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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In the roller coaster fashion that this season has turned into, I predict that the Huskies will win.

NIU 67
BSU 62
02-04-2019 10:26 AM
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What's the status of Arkansas transfer Brachen Hazen or Ishmael El-Amin? They've missed like 10 games but are expected to return and key a late-season push for BSU.
02-04-2019 12:26 PM
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(02-04-2019 12:26 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  What's the status of Arkansas transfer Brachen Hazen or Ishmael El-Amin? They've missed like 10 games but are expected to return and key a late-season push for BSU.

There were 3 or 4 guys in some form of casts on Saturday, I assume they were some of them.
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(02-04-2019 09:53 AM)pantone1935 Wrote:  Check out the common opponents (conclusion - DON'T BET ON THIS GAME):
Ohio: NIU sweeps, BSU losses both
CMU: BSU wins at CMU, NIU losses at home
Toledo: BSU wins at Toledo, NIU losses at home
Miami: NIU wins at Miami, BSU losses at home.

They both did lose to Kent.

NET ranking: BSU 104 NIU 130
KenPom: BSU 112 NIU 117

Huskie shooting percentages are tanking. Will they bounce back. Game Tue at Convo and I don't know what time or what ESPN network. Kind of bummed after Toledo.

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BSU has 2 MAC wins. They lost to EMU at home. They lost to Ohio at home by 18 points. They lost to M-OH at home. The above 3 teams all have losing MAC records (combined 10-17 record).
The BAD news for NIU: BSU's 2 MAC wins came on the road against teams with a combined 11-7 record. They beat CMU by 11 points and Toledo by 15 points ON THE ROAD!
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NIU favorite by 2.
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(02-04-2019 07:30 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  
(02-04-2019 09:53 AM)pantone1935 Wrote:  Check out the common opponents (conclusion - DON'T BET ON THIS GAME):
Ohio: NIU sweeps, BSU losses both
CMU: BSU wins at CMU, NIU losses at home
Toledo: BSU wins at Toledo, NIU losses at home
Miami: NIU wins at Miami, BSU losses at home.

They both did lose to Kent.

NET ranking: BSU 104 NIU 130
KenPom: BSU 112 NIU 117

Huskie shooting percentages are tanking. Will they bounce back. Game Tue at Convo and I don't know what time or what ESPN network. Kind of bummed after Toledo.

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BSU has 2 MAC wins. They lost to EMU at home. They lost to Ohio at home by 18 points. They lost to M-OH at home. The above 3 teams all have losing MAC records (combined 10-17 record).
The BAD news for NIU: BSU's 2 MAC wins came on the road against teams with a combined 11-7 record. They beat CMU by 11 points and Toledo by 15 points ON THE ROAD!

Any time you're playing a team that is severely underperforming expectations, there is a "BAD news" component. Basically, in any game, they can put it together and play considerably better than they have in the season or than they will the rest of the season.

Tbh, I've been dreading this game.
02-05-2019 07:00 AM
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BSU has swept Toledo the last 2 or 3 seasons. Persons and Moses is deadly to us. It's a match up thing. We have no real center. Knapke is a long 4 who'd rather shoot. Sanford also gets trashed by the top 3 or 4 PGs in the league. I wouldn't put any stock in common opponents. This is a matchup league.
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So how does NIU match up? Apparently we matched up well with Buffalo (I missed that game due to weather). CMU flat out out-hustled us. Toledo completely shut down our inside game.
Is BSU under performing or just not matching up well?

Looks like I not going to this this game either: >>Ice Storm Warning in effect from 6:00 PM CST until Wednesday, 6:00 AM CST. Source: An Ice Storm Warning means significant amounts of ice accumulation will make travel dangerous or impossible. Travel is strongly discouraged.
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500 attendance might be a stretch for tonight, doh. I hate the third of 3 game home stands. I just worry that complacency can set in when you are home that long. No numbers to back that up
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(02-05-2019 02:47 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  500 attendance might be a stretch for tonight, doh. I hate the third of 3 game home stands. I just worry that complacency can set in when you are home that long. No numbers to back that up

I am concerned the impending ice storm will do what the deep freeze did home vs. Ohio. According to NBC, the last official ice storm warning was in 2009. The weather is turning into a sixth man this year ... and it's not wearing Cardinal and Black.

But Northern did beat Ohio anyway.
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NIU has to sweep these next 3 games to have any shot at a bye. 3 worst teams in the West.
02-05-2019 03:50 PM
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(02-05-2019 03:50 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU has to sweep these next 3 games to have any shot at a bye. 3 worst teams in the West.

That's probably right. The way I see it, NIU has to go 6-3 in its final 9 to have a shot, and 7-2 in the final 9 to be in very high likelihood. The loss to Kent State could be a killer in tie-break as NIU's most likely competition for that 4th seed will be Kent and CMU. A month ago I would have been very comfortable with 10 wins as getting a 4 seed, but the rise of Kent has elevated the requirements a bit. So to get to that 6 additional wins, saying you sweep rest of season at home, you have to take 2 of the following remaining road games (or 3 of the remaining road games if you drop 1 more at home)

@ EMU
@ WMU
@ Toledo
@ CMU
@ Ball State

Taking 2 of these above is a tough task and taking 3 would be monumentally hard. The game that sort of stands out to me on the road as important to win is @ CMU. That would give NIU a split with the Chips , but assuming Buffalo gets the 1 seed, that would give NIU the 2nd tiebreak vs CMU. The Toledo loss really just means NIU is going to have win one on the road it should not win. Not much faith in that. EMU is the 2nd easiest remaining road contest, but even that is pretty close to a 50/50 game. Right now Id put my money on NIU ending up in the 5 or 6 seed position, but at least hosting a first round tourney game vs WMU, EMU, or Ohio.

Bottom line if I was an oddsmaker id say 12-6 gives you an 85 percent chance at a 4 seed, 11-7 gives you 50/50 shot, and 10-8 gives you a 20 percent chance. Id say 10-8 is the most likely final record right now. Outside of Ball State, NIU has the easiest remaining schedule in the MAC
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(02-05-2019 01:44 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  So how does NIU match up? Apparently we matched up well with Buffalo (I missed that game due to weather). CMU flat out out-hustled us. Toledo completely shut down our inside game.
Is BSU under performing or just not matching up well?

Looks like I not going to this this game either: >>Ice Storm Warning in effect from 6:00 PM CST until Wednesday, 6:00 AM CST. Source: An Ice Storm Warning means significant amounts of ice accumulation will make travel dangerous or impossible. Travel is strongly discouraged.
I'm trying to get there now. Missed the buffalo game cause of a storm and I need to get out of the house. Just can't tell if tollway will be driveable on the way home.

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(02-05-2019 05:11 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 01:44 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  So how does NIU match up? Apparently we matched up well with Buffalo (I missed that game due to weather). CMU flat out out-hustled us. Toledo completely shut down our inside game.
Is BSU under performing or just not matching up well?

Looks like I not going to this this game either: >>Ice Storm Warning in effect from 6:00 PM CST until Wednesday, 6:00 AM CST. Source: An Ice Storm Warning means significant amounts of ice accumulation will make travel dangerous or impossible. Travel is strongly discouraged.
I'm trying to get there now. Missed the buffalo game cause of a storm and I need to get out of the house. Just can't tell if tollway will be driveable on the way home.

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Thank you for your Huskie support. Drive safely.

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(02-05-2019 05:24 PM)pantone1935 Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 05:11 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  
(02-05-2019 01:44 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  So how does NIU match up? Apparently we matched up well with Buffalo (I missed that game due to weather). CMU flat out out-hustled us. Toledo completely shut down our inside game.
Is BSU under performing or just not matching up well?

Looks like I not going to this this game either: >>Ice Storm Warning in effect from 6:00 PM CST until Wednesday, 6:00 AM CST. Source: An Ice Storm Warning means significant amounts of ice accumulation will make travel dangerous or impossible. Travel is strongly discouraged.
I'm trying to get there now. Missed the buffalo game cause of a storm and I need to get out of the house. Just can't tell if tollway will be driveable on the way home.

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Thank you for your Huskie support. Drive safely.

GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Thanks. I counted 21 cars one south east side 30 minutes to tipoff. Maybe 100 here 6 minutes to tip.

Actually treacherous driving out there 2nite.

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I really wanted to go to this game...but not smart to drive 25 miles with young kids in the car. Weather has been a bummer for attendance
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Huskies offense looking worse with each game
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Unwatchable, horrid horrid shot selection.
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German does not get calls
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