(02-18-2019 10:37 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 02:09 AM)Claw Wrote:  I have pondered this a bit.

If she were not alive, I think the justices would have gone public. Even if she were non-responsive, I think the justices would have gone public.

Politics aside, I think the justices are not talking out of decorum. That makes me believe she is well enough to interact, but is not mentally competent to serve. Given the silence, I suspect she is unable to serve but not mentally acute enough to realize it.

I think the justices and everyone else are trying to keep her from publicly embarrassing herself. I think it is that simple. No one wants a career jurist like her to show up in public a blithering idiot. It's a bad thing for her and for the court.

I think this is the real lay of the land. Something will be quietly done and she will resign at that time.

Something is definitely going on, there is no reason to not let her be seen if she is well and healthy.
While I would like a more centrist judge than RBG in that seat, I don't wish death on her. But as the highest court in the land, we the American people are owed some transparency. And the silence and secrecy around how she is doing is very very troubling.

ya think?

it's mind-boggling at this point....

(02-18-2019 02:09 AM)Claw Wrote:  I have pondered this a bit.

If she were not alive, I think the justices would have gone public. Even if she were non-responsive, I think the justices would have gone public.

Politics aside, I think the justices are not talking out of decorum. That makes me believe she is well enough to interact, but is not mentally competent to serve. Given the silence, I suspect she is unable to serve but not mentally acute enough to realize it.

I think the justices and everyone else are trying to keep her from publicly embarrassing herself. I think it is that simple. No one wants a career jurist like her to show up in public a blithering idiot. It's a bad thing for her and for the court.

I think this is the real lay of the land. Something will be quietly done and she will resign at that time.

About where I am on this.

I think the others are “protecting” her out of professional courtesy . She’s likely in chambers, but confined to a WC and hooked up to oxygen.

Communicates with other justices through clerks, which after all this time they likely have a pretty damn good idea how she’d view things, so they fill in the blanks.

Anything that hasn’t or won’t go too far afield is enough to keep anyone from speaking up/ objecting.

She’ll hang in for this last term, done in June/July.

(02-18-2019 10:37 AM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 02:09 AM)Claw Wrote:  I have pondered this a bit.

If she were not alive, I think the justices would have gone public. Even if she were non-responsive, I think the justices would have gone public.

Politics aside, I think the justices are not talking out of decorum. That makes me believe she is well enough to interact, but is not mentally competent to serve. Given the silence, I suspect she is unable to serve but not mentally acute enough to realize it.

I think the justices and everyone else are trying to keep her from publicly embarrassing herself. I think it is that simple. No one wants a career jurist like her to show up in public a blithering idiot. It's a bad thing for her and for the court.

I think this is the real lay of the land. Something will be quietly done and she will resign at that time.

Something is definitely going on, there is no reason to not let her be seen if she is well and healthy.
While I would like a more centrist judge than RBG in that seat, I don't wish death on her. But as the highest court in the land, we the American people are owed some transparency. And the silence and secrecy around how she is doing is very very troubling.

Complete black out by the media too.

Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

Not a WORD. Someone’s been told to dummy-up and look the other way.

“ Cat stuck in tree, rescue squad responds” stories instead...

(02-18-2019 12:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Complete black out by the media too.
Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

It seems journalism is changed now. It used to be that if you wanted to get ahead you had to show your skill, find the story, research it, and then release it. Now you get ahead by towing the line and doing what you're told. You get ahead by being a talking head and being dependable to tow the line and give the proper approved responses.

Why else do you think you can watch a news story across all the major platforms and they're ALL using the same exact phrases and wording.
There's an understood rule of how you are supposed to say things and what you are supposed to say. At the end of the day, they're punching the clock and protecting that paycheck. They dont care about truth or upsetting anyone anymore... it's about acting the way they are supposed to so that they can climb the journalism ladder.

(02-18-2019 12:25 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Complete black out by the media too.
Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

It seems journalism is changed now. It used to be that if you wanted to get ahead you had to show your skill, find the story, research it, and then release it. Now you get ahead by towing the line and doing what you're told. You get ahead by being a talking head and being dependable to tow the line and give the proper approved responses.

Why else do you think you can watch a news story across all the major platforms and they're ALL using the same exact phrases and wording.
There's an understood rule of how you are supposed to say things and what you are supposed to say. At the end of the day, they're punching the clock and protecting that paycheck. They dont care about truth or upsetting anyone anymore... it's about acting the way they are supposed to so that they can climb the journalism ladder.

Well duh? Every media outlet of note is corporately owned. If you've worked within the mind hive of a corporate giant then you already know that editing is top down and stories are ground level up. If somebody bucks the system they are out. Our local newspaper does not go to press until every page layout is reviewed at the corporate top where it is edited for a wide array of things. Then the sanitized version is returned to the room that runs the plates and it goes to print.

I'm sure there are reporters out there chomping at the bit to get ahead. But none of them are going to risk a bad letter in their file to be passed along to other future corporate employers. It's a professional death sentence and one they won't have access to and therefore can't refute.

(02-18-2019 12:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:25 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Complete black out by the media too.
Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

It seems journalism is changed now. It used to be that if you wanted to get ahead you had to show your skill, find the story, research it, and then release it. Now you get ahead by towing the line and doing what you're told. You get ahead by being a talking head and being dependable to tow the line and give the proper approved responses.

Why else do you think you can watch a news story across all the major platforms and they're ALL using the same exact phrases and wording.
There's an understood rule of how you are supposed to say things and what you are supposed to say. At the end of the day, they're punching the clock and protecting that paycheck. They dont care about truth or upsetting anyone anymore... it's about acting the way they are supposed to so that they can climb the journalism ladder.

Well duh? Every media outlet of note is corporately owned. If you've worked within the mind hive of a corporate giant then you already know that editing is top down and stories are ground level up. If somebody bucks the system they are out. Our local newspaper does not go to press until every page layout is reviewed at the corporate top where it is edited for a wide array of things. Then the sanitized version is returned to the room that runs the plates and it goes to print.

I'm sure there are reporters out there chomping at the bit to get ahead. But none of them are going to risk a bad letter in their file to be passed along to other future corporate employers. It's a professional death sentence and one they won't have access to and therefore can't refute.

Hence why I respect Tim Pool. He decided he wanted to report the news without it being reviewed and edited by some faceless corp manager.

(02-18-2019 01:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:25 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Complete black out by the media too.
Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

It seems journalism is changed now. It used to be that if you wanted to get ahead you had to show your skill, find the story, research it, and then release it. Now you get ahead by towing the line and doing what you're told. You get ahead by being a talking head and being dependable to tow the line and give the proper approved responses.

Why else do you think you can watch a news story across all the major platforms and they're ALL using the same exact phrases and wording.
There's an understood rule of how you are supposed to say things and what you are supposed to say. At the end of the day, they're punching the clock and protecting that paycheck. They dont care about truth or upsetting anyone anymore... it's about acting the way they are supposed to so that they can climb the journalism ladder.

Well duh? Every media outlet of note is corporately owned. If you've worked within the mind hive of a corporate giant then you already know that editing is top down and stories are ground level up. If somebody bucks the system they are out. Our local newspaper does not go to press until every page layout is reviewed at the corporate top where it is edited for a wide array of things. Then the sanitized version is returned to the room that runs the plates and it goes to print.

I'm sure there are reporters out there chomping at the bit to get ahead. But none of them are going to risk a bad letter in their file to be passed along to other future corporate employers. It's a professional death sentence and one they won't have access to and therefore can't refute.

Hence why I respect Tim Pool. He decided he wanted to report the news without it being reviewed and edited by some faceless corp manager.

Roger that!

However since the Occupy Wall Street reporting how many other voices have had their Twitter and Facebook accounts pulled. Tim hit them in a vulnerability they have since covered. It's going to be a lot like the Free France movement or the Philippines Eagle from here on out.

(02-18-2019 02:09 AM)Claw Wrote:  I have pondered this a bit.

If she were not alive, I think the justices would have gone public. Even if she were non-responsive, I think the justices would have gone public.

Politics aside, I think the justices are not talking out of decorum. That makes me believe she is well enough to interact, but is not mentally competent to serve. Given the silence, I suspect she is unable to serve but not mentally acute enough to realize it.

I think the justices and everyone else are trying to keep her from publicly embarrassing herself. I think it is that simple. No one wants a career jurist like her to show up in public a blithering idiot. It's a bad thing for her and for the court.

I think this is the real lay of the land. Something will be quietly done and she will resign at that time.

If she is not in her seat tomorrow, when the court meets, than I would have to agree with the core of your assessment, and the media will delinquent in their duty of reporting actual news.

TMZ to the rescue - you even get video. You've got your photos now be an adult and finally close this pointless thread.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/18/ruth-bade...ry-cancer/

(02-18-2019 07:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  TMZ to the rescue - you even get video. You've got your photos now be an adult and finally close this pointless thread.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/18/ruth-bade...ry-cancer/

Thank you for posting. She seems more frail than usual, but well enough to be at work tomorrow.

(02-18-2019 07:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  TMZ to the rescue - you even get video. You've got your photos now be an adult and finally close this pointless thread.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/18/ruth-bade...ry-cancer/

Only took 74 days, why?

Who cares. Now close this thread as you promised, or else you're no different than JD Tulane.

(02-18-2019 08:00 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Who cares. Now close this thread as you promised, or else you're no different than JD Tulane.

Those of us who want the truth care. Clearly RBG, her handlers, the left and the media felt the need to keep her out of the public eye for some reason.

My mod powers do not work on this board, so technically I can't close it. Also I never promised to close it.

(02-05-2019 06:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 06:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  So, RBG went to a theatrical performance about her life, and those in charge didn't stop to recognize or highlight her attendance at the event? That makes absolutely no sense.

A public appearance implies that the public actually get to see the individual in question. Apparently, no one thought to snag a photo or video of her at this event. I find that hard to believe. She could have been there, but this report is far from proof. I say keep the count in the title going.

Till there is visual proof, it will keep going.

You absolutely promised to change the title (and that is something you can do as a non-mod). I'll have to look through the entire thread again (sigh) to find out where you said you would close the thread itself.

(02-18-2019 08:00 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Who cares. Now close this thread as you promised, or else you're no different than JD Tulane.

Typical Leftist... they read words and instead of accepting those words for what they mean... they inject the meaning they want into them and then try to hold people accountable to that 'unspoken meaning'.

Read the words he used. Accept those words as they are defined in the dictionary.
Dont redefine what people have said based on your wants/opinions.

(02-05-2019 06:28 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Till there is visual proof, it will keep going.

(02-15-2019 12:44 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  Public has still not laid eyes on her, this thread continues.

This thread continuing because no one has seen her does not equal: "This thread will be closed when she's seen publicly."

Thats what you wanted him to say... that's not what he said. Stop injecting personal desires into the meaning of what other people say.

This thread is a joke, and the longer it stays active, the more of a circus you guys are running. There were coma rumors, a link to a Ruth Ginsberg death notice, and all sorts of cruel memes about a very sick woman who has given a lifetime of service on the court or in the classroom.

I said almost a month ago in this thread TMZ would break the real story and lo and behold they did. I also predicted she would show up at the Oscars, and I still think that will happen next weekend.

Crimson absolutely said he would change the title of this thread and he can do that now on his own without the help of mods. To not do so would be akin in my eyes to anything that some of you like to continually throw in the face of JD Tulane. Hell, one of you has a sig which is a direct and constant slap in his face.

Okay he didn't say he would close this thread. I'm wrong about that. I can't believe he would want to keep it open at this point though. Looking at the video, you will all get your wish soon enough. That should be enough of a victory, and you would think a mod would show some human dignity and close the thread on their own.

(02-18-2019 12:38 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:25 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(02-18-2019 12:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Complete black out by the media too.
Wouldn’t you think some enterprising young reporter trying to cut their teeth would be chasing this story down?

It seems journalism is changed now. It used to be that if you wanted to get ahead you had to show your skill, find the story, research it, and then release it. Now you get ahead by towing the line and doing what you're told. You get ahead by being a talking head and being dependable to tow the line and give the proper approved responses.

Why else do you think you can watch a news story across all the major platforms and they're ALL using the same exact phrases and wording.
There's an understood rule of how you are supposed to say things and what you are supposed to say. At the end of the day, they're punching the clock and protecting that paycheck. They dont care about truth or upsetting anyone anymore... it's about acting the way they are supposed to so that they can climb the journalism ladder.

Well duh? Every media outlet of note is corporately owned. If you've worked within the mind hive of a corporate giant then you already know that editing is top down and stories are ground level up. If somebody bucks the system they are out. Our local newspaper does not go to press until every page layout is reviewed at the corporate top where it is edited for a wide array of things. Then the sanitized version is returned to the room that runs the plates and it goes to print.

I'm sure there are reporters out there chomping at the bit to get ahead. But none of them are going to risk a bad letter in their file to be passed along to other future corporate employers. It's a professional death sentence and one they won't have access to and therefore can't refute.

that's why my 'exit interview was 'da finga'....

nuts zongo no longer play rx bendover....

NO MAS

(02-18-2019 08:35 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  This thread is a joke, and the longer it stays active, the more of a circus you guys are running. There were coma rumors, a link to a Ruth Ginsberg death notice, and all sorts of cruel memes about a very sick woman who has given a lifetime of service on the court or in the classroom.

I said almost a month ago in this thread TMZ would break the real story and lo and behold they did. I also predicted she would show up at the Oscars, and I still think that will happen next weekend.

Crimson absolutely said he would change the title of this thread and he can do that now on his own without the help of mods. To not do so would be akin in my eyes to anything that some of you like to continually throw in the face of JD Tulane. Hell, one of you has a sig which is a direct and constant slap in his face.

Okay he didn't say he would close this thread. I'm wrong about that. I can't believe he would want to keep it open at this point though. Looking at the video, you will all get your wish soon enough. That should be enough of a victory, and you would think a mod would show some human dignity and close the thread on their own.

not one live shot....she's (it's) 1 of 9....kinda impo®tant...

[quote='Fort Bend Owl' pid='15915006' dateline='1550540137']
Crimson absolutely said he would change the title of this thread and he can do that now on his own without the help of mods.
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Citation needed. If he said that, I'll agree that he should stand by his word. I scanned through the thread and didn't find it, but perhaps I missed it. If he did say it, please link it.

[quote='Fort Bend Owl' pid='15915006' dateline='1550540137']
Okay he didn't say he would close this thread. I'm wrong about that. I can't believe he would want to keep it open at this point though. Looking at the video, you will all get your wish soon enough. That should be enough of a victory, and you would think a mod would show some human dignity and close the thread on their own.
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Ok, but now you're projecting your views and opinions onto him and expecting that he should behave the way YOU want him to.
Bringing up 'dignity' really? You want to make this a moral argument against the mods for keeping the thread open?
There are tons of threads in this forum that anger and upset a ton of people. But that's not a reason to close them if they are not a violation of the rules and/or will cause an issue for the site.

Personally I think allowing people to talk about an issue, even one that makes people angry and uncomfortable is of higher importance than closing a thread based on some moral opinion of what is and is not ok to talk about.

No one here is the Moral Police of society, and CSNBBS does not have a moral code of behavior that everyone has to follow and the mods have to enforce.

If anyone (including myself) doesn't like that... he/she/it can use the logout button.