(01-29-2019 05:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Rules committee will discuss these proposals during the last week in February...

https://apnews.com/899e21e16fc34c58b9b1c9fa4bb1e5d6

Quote:Among the more radical ideas set to be discussed is going to a 2-point-conversion shootout after teams have played two full OT possessions.

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That was my idea. After 20T, stop dragging it out. Just go to alternating 2-point attempts and only 2-point attempts. 1 play for each team. Either they score 2 points or 0 points.

Think about it, by that point the 2 teams have had 60 minutes of regulation and 2OT to break a tie where 1 random play going differently could have broken the tie a long time ago. At that point you might as well just let 2 more plays determine the winner. If teams don't like the OT rules, they should have won the game in regulation.

(01-29-2019 07:07 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  As the article states, on average only 6 games a year got to a 2nd OT or more.

Why really bother?

I guess this is an attempt to show concern over player safety.

Exactly. Who cares?

Sure we get the occasional 7 OT game but that is only about once a decade. What's the big deal?

(01-29-2019 07:56 PM)XLance Wrote:  Bring back the tie.

COMMUNIST!

/not snark

(01-29-2019 05:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Rules committee will discuss these proposals during the last week in February...

https://apnews.com/899e21e16fc34c58b9b1c9fa4bb1e5d6

Quote:Among the more radical ideas set to be discussed is going to a 2-point-conversion shootout after teams have played two full OT possessions.

Quote:There is no support to allow games to end in ties, which were part of college football for decades.

Quote:Shaw said he has received dozens of ideas about how to tweak overtime. The most common have to do with placement of the ball. With offenses operating more efficiently than ever, moving the starting line back 10 or 15 yards could make scoring more difficult. The rules committee will also consider eliminating extra point tries, forcing teams to go for 2 from the very first possession.

Quote:Shaw said eliminating all place kicking in overtime will also be discussed.

The first two OT must try 2 point conversion. If still tied, then just straight 2 point conversion shootout follows.

(01-30-2019 10:00 AM)97App Wrote:  Start possession at the 40 - Must go for 2 after 1st OT - Game ends after 3rd OT.

I'm fine with a tie after 3 OTs.

Agreed. In fact, if a game goes 3 OTs without a clear winner I'd PREFER it end in a tie. After all, isn't it obvious at that point that the teams are equal? If we HAVE to give the victory to one... might as well flip a coin (it's about that random anyway).

Moving the start point back a bit at least makes OT more like REAL FOOTBALL instead of penalty kicks...

(01-30-2019 11:06 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 05:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Rules committee will discuss these proposals during the last week in February...

https://apnews.com/899e21e16fc34c58b9b1c9fa4bb1e5d6

Quote:Among the more radical ideas set to be discussed is going to a 2-point-conversion shootout after teams have played two full OT possessions.

That was my idea. After 20T, stop dragging it out. Just go to alternating 2-point attempts and only 2-point attempts. 1 play for each team. Either they score 2 points or 0 points.

Think about it, by that point the 2 teams have had 60 minutes of regulation and 2OT to break a tie where 1 random play going differently could have broken the tie a long time ago. At that point you might as well just let 2 more plays determine the winner. If teams don't like the OT rules, they should have won the game in regulation.

I like that idea.

It also reduces the inflation of statistics. 72-74 sounds like both teams had no defense, until you realize that it was 31-31 after regulation and there were 214 plays from scrimmage.

(01-30-2019 12:48 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 11:06 AM)goofus Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 05:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Rules committee will discuss these proposals during the last week in February...

https://apnews.com/899e21e16fc34c58b9b1c9fa4bb1e5d6

Quote:Among the more radical ideas set to be discussed is going to a 2-point-conversion shootout after teams have played two full OT possessions.

That was my idea. After 20T, stop dragging it out. Just go to alternating 2-point attempts and only 2-point attempts. 1 play for each team. Either they score 2 points or 0 points.

Think about it, by that point the 2 teams have had 60 minutes of regulation and 2OT to break a tie where 1 random play going differently could have broken the tie a long time ago. At that point you might as well just let 2 more plays determine the winner. If teams don't like the OT rules, they should have won the game in regulation.

I like that idea.

It also reduces the inflation of statistics. 72-74 sounds like both teams had no defense, until you realize that it was 31-31 after regulation and there were 214 plays from scrimmage.

That's another thing I hate but forgot to mention. The stat padding can be ridiculous

(01-29-2019 07:50 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 07:20 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Why bother?

Television.

They’ll say it’s about safety, but, really, there has to be a way the speed up the end of these long drawn out contests when they get to these situations.

And yet, I bet that LSU/A&M game got great ratings at the end.

Great rating yes. But did little for ESPN, as they really can't fit in any commercials during the OT periods. Ever notice there are no breaks between periods?

(01-30-2019 06:38 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Heard an interesting proposal on the radio today...

Instead of trying to rig OT to give an equal shot to both teams one way or the other, just begin the period as though it were a 5th quarter. In other words, begin with the ball placed wherever it was when the 4th quarter ended and the same team maintains possession. Same down and distance, everything. At that point it becomes sudden death.

I don't know if that's the answer, but it was different.

the problem with that, is it takes away the two minute offense at the end of the game, which is an important facet of the game. Also removes some hail mary's, or long game winning kick attempts, if you just give the team with the ball more time.

(01-29-2019 05:43 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Rules committee will discuss these proposals during the last week in February...

https://apnews.com/899e21e16fc34c58b9b1c9fa4bb1e5d6

Quote:Among the more radical ideas set to be discussed is going to a 2-point-conversion shootout after teams have played two full OT possessions.

Quote:There is no support to allow games to end in ties, which were part of college football for decades.

Quote:Shaw said he has received dozens of ideas about how to tweak overtime. The most common have to do with placement of the ball. With offenses operating more efficiently than ever, moving the starting line back 10 or 15 yards could make scoring more difficult. The rules committee will also consider eliminating extra point tries, forcing teams to go for 2 from the very first possession.

Quote:Shaw said eliminating all place kicking in overtime will also be discussed.

Just start the overtime from the 50. At least that way you have to earn a FG. I don't like eliminating the kicking game from the equation. That's not football but some new monstrosity of it.

I really feel that a very high % of games would be decided in the first OT if they just put the ball at the 50. I'm good with having to go for 2 after touchdowns but don't think we should eliminate the field goal. You would probably be dooming yourself to even more overtimes with that rule. If a team holds the opposition drives 25 yards on their possession and ends it with a field goal that's fair enough.