(01-28-2019 04:43 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:44 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:57 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 12:41 PM)No Bull Wrote:  wtf is VT thinking?

Dispute over the ECU@VT game being cancelled due to Hurricane Florence led VT to cancel the rest of the series.

Wrong, they canceled their 3 remaining trips to Greenville. They still expect us to make our 3 remaining trips to Blacksburg.

I think we should go, proving we did not breach the contract, beat them on the road 3 times, and sue them for not fulfilling their end of the contract.

I'm 100% on board with keeping those games. If the guys ever needed a chip on their shoulder...

(01-28-2019 01:57 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Where did you hear/see we were adding W&M?

It's been floating around on Boneyard Banter.

(01-28-2019 04:10 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 03:58 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:55 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:53 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:44 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  Wrong, they canceled their 3 remaining trips to Greenville. They still expect us to make our 3 remaining trips to Blacksburg.

or what? VT sucks.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...126767714/

Quote:Hokies’ athletic director Whit Babcock publicly stated in a rare Christmas weekend Saturday morning release before 9 a.m. that Virginia Tech would not be playing its scheduled 2019 game in Greenville, and has also opted out of games in 2023 and 2025 at ECU. Babcock said the Hokies would still welcome ECU to Lane Stadium in Blacksburg for scheduled games in 2020, 2022 and 2024.

Virginia Tech declared ECU was in breach of the non-conference football contract in a formal letter dated Nov. 28, 2018, for failing to pay VT $250,000 as a result of cancelling the game. Virginia Tech also suggested moving the scheduled 2019 game to Charlotte where the two sides would split the revenue, an offer ECU rejected, along with the $250,000 payment.

USFFan

I read the article. VT does not give a Shiite about ECU's student athlete's.. the are cancelling the series because ECU always beats them...

I think ECU should sure...


VT's action respresnet everything that is wrong with college football these days.

The Hokies are my new least favorite team.

Fvck the Hokies.

I’m curious to know what the Bearcat fans on the board thought of Babcock. Didn’t he bail on Cincy when the Big East folded? I’m genuinely curious. He seems like a real elitist tool.

At first, Babcock came across as the perfect guy for UC-- a young, energetic AD who had a plan to improve facilities and take the department to new heights. However, in retrospect he was a dud. His legacy at UC will forever be defined by the terrible decision to hire his old friend from Auburn, Tommy Tuberville. Babcock did not even formerly vet him or look at other candidates-- hiring the washed up Riverboat Gambler a day after Butch Jones left.

Whit Babcock will forever be a piece of **** to me for hiring Tubs. Don't miss him one bit. Our current AD Mike Bohn was a major upgrade.

(01-28-2019 01:57 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 12:41 PM)No Bull Wrote:  wtf is VT thinking?

Dispute over the ECU@VT game being cancelled due to Hurricane Florence led VT to cancel the rest of the series.

They wanted to cancel ever since ECU started beating them

I say this in all seriousness: it benefits them to play in Greenville way more than it benefits us to play in Blacksburg, mainly for recruiting reasons.

We also got the better end of the short stick: W&M will travel well to Greenville, much more so than Rhode Island will to Blacksburg.

VPI handled this very poorly. They not only demanded payment for a game that was canceled due to an act of nature (that was headed our way until it veered south, after destroying New Bern... which is only 45 minutes from Greenville) but they also attempted to move next year’s ECU home game to Charlotte, negotiating with BoA Stadium officials without speaking with us first.

I know a lot of really, really awesome Tech fans but in all honesty, their AD and their athletic department look like asses right now.

(01-28-2019 07:04 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  I say this in all seriousness: it benefits them to play in Greenville way more than it benefits us to play in Blacksburg, mainly for recruiting reasons.

We also got the better end of the short stick: W&M will travel well to Greenville, much more so than Rhode Island will to Blacksburg.

VPI handled this very poorly. They not only demanded payment for a game that was canceled due to an act of nature (that was headed our way until it veered south, after destroying New Bern... which is only 45 minutes from Greenville) but they also attempted to move next year’s ECU home game to Charlotte, negotiating with BoA Stadium officials without speaking with us first.

I know a lot of really, really awesome Tech fans but in all honesty, their AD and their athletic department look like asses right now.

I feel like this is a really accurate assessment of what happened and how it looks from the outside.

VT and ECU was a great series. Good games. Big crowds. This is a bad look for VT.... They will regret this.

(01-28-2019 04:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 04:10 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 03:58 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:55 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:53 PM)No Bull Wrote:  or what? VT sucks.

https://247sports.com/college/east-carol...126767714/

Quote:Hokies’ athletic director Whit Babcock publicly stated in a rare Christmas weekend Saturday morning release before 9 a.m. that Virginia Tech would not be playing its scheduled 2019 game in Greenville, and has also opted out of games in 2023 and 2025 at ECU. Babcock said the Hokies would still welcome ECU to Lane Stadium in Blacksburg for scheduled games in 2020, 2022 and 2024.

Virginia Tech declared ECU was in breach of the non-conference football contract in a formal letter dated Nov. 28, 2018, for failing to pay VT $250,000 as a result of cancelling the game. Virginia Tech also suggested moving the scheduled 2019 game to Charlotte where the two sides would split the revenue, an offer ECU rejected, along with the $250,000 payment.

USFFan

I read the article. VT does not give a Shiite about ECU's student athlete's.. the are cancelling the series because ECU always beats them...

I think ECU should sure...


VT's action respresnet everything that is wrong with college football these days.

The Hokies are my new least favorite team.

Fvck the Hokies.

I’m curious to know what the Bearcat fans on the board thought of Babcock. Didn’t he bail on Cincy when the Big East folded? I’m genuinely curious. He seems like a real elitist tool.

At first, Babcock came across as the perfect guy for UC-- a young, energetic AD who had a plan to improve facilities and take the department to new heights. However, in retrospect he was a dud. His legacy at UC will forever be defined by the terrible decision to hire his old friend from Auburn, Tommy Tuberville. Babcock did not even formerly vet him or look at other candidates-- hiring the washed up Riverboat Gambler a day after Butch Jones left.

Roger that. Thanks

(01-28-2019 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 04:43 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 02:44 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:57 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 12:41 PM)No Bull Wrote:  wtf is VT thinking?

Dispute over the ECU@VT game being cancelled due to Hurricane Florence led VT to cancel the rest of the series.

Wrong, they canceled their 3 remaining trips to Greenville. They still expect us to make our 3 remaining trips to Blacksburg.

I think we should go, proving we did not breach the contract, beat them on the road 3 times, and sue them for not fulfilling their end of the contract.

I'm 100% on board with keeping those games. If the guys ever needed a chip on their shoulder...

The Pirates would definitely have some extra ammo going to Blacksburg. Only problem is it would be 3 road trips with no return. We really need good teams who will schedule a home and home. Otherwise we could end up with something stupid like 2 FCS games or 5 home games. I know that's improbable, but it really monkeys up the schedule. South Carolina is already messing with us.

We don't currently have any FCS games for 2021, 2023 (the years we should be hosting VT) and the years we are currently supposed to go to VT are full:

2020 - Norfolk State, Marshall, at South Carolina, at VT
2022 - Campbell, NC State, at BYU, at VT
2024 - Appalachian State, BYU, at Charlotte, at VT

So we could definitely swing it without having 5 home games or 2 FCS games. However, we've only got the South Carolina game as a big-name opponent, though I'm sure Marshall will bring fans:

2021 - South Carolina, Appalachian State (BofA Stadium), at Marshall
2023 - Marshall, at Appalachian State, at Georgia State
2025 - Charlotte, at Marshall, at NC State

There's also the question of whether that South Carolina game ever happens... it seems to keep moving back.

Amazing how South Carolina doesn't want to play us, if they would have kept to the original contract the series would be over and they would be free to play whoever they want.

Looks worse for VT than it does ECU IMO. Another win for ECU which helps the AAC in the grand scheme of things.

(01-29-2019 06:33 AM)Chappy Wrote:  We don't currently have any FCS games for 2021, 2023 (the years we should be hosting VT) and the years we are currently supposed to go to VT are full:

2020 - Norfolk State, Marshall, at South Carolina, at VT
2022 - Campbell, NC State, at BYU, at VT
2024 - Appalachian State, BYU, at Charlotte, at VT

So we could definitely swing it without having 5 home games or 2 FCS games. However, we've only got the South Carolina game as a big-name opponent, though I'm sure Marshall will bring fans:

2021 - South Carolina, Appalachian State (BofA Stadium), at Marshall
2023 - Marshall, at Appalachian State, at Georgia State
2025 - Charlotte, at Marshall, at NC State

There's also the question of whether that South Carolina game ever happens... it seems to keep moving back.

Most years you have a P5 school on the schedule with South Carolina, NC State, and BYU who is considered a P5 for P5 conference scheduling like Army. There is also time to line up another P5 school scheduling out 6 years:

2020 - one P5 - SC if you don't play at VT. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Get a H& H further out if you can.

2021 - one P5 - SC - switch that game to BofA and play App. St at home plus an opening for another P5 team, G4 team or FCS team.

2022 - P5 NC St and BYU - replace VT with another P5, G4, or FCS team. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Schedule a H&H further out.

2023 - This is the only year you need a P5 school on the schedule unless things can get worked out with VT. Four years out ECU should be able to get a H&H with a P5 school returning the away game further out. If not replace the VT game with a G4 or FCS one and done.

2024 - You have BYU at home which is considered P5 for P5 scheduling. Pick up another P5, G5, or FCS. VT was on the road anyway.

2025 is far enough out to schedule another H&H with a P5, with P5 NC St on the schedule. if ECU can't get a game once again a G4 or FCS one and done.

There is only one year where ECU doesn't have at least one P5 school on the schedule OOC besides 2019. ECU will be scheduling like P5 conferences - SEC and the B-10 - those years if the school cannot replace VT with a P5 school.

(01-28-2019 12:41 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 12:35 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  At least that's word on the street.

Seems a little ridiculous since VT themselves will also be playing 2 FCS opponents (Furman & Rhode Island) now that they've backed out of this game. Really unfortunate for a lot of reasons but particularly in light of the newly renovated and expanded DF stadium.

ECU has historically had some of the toughest OOC schedules in nation but the 2019 campaign will be as follows:

@ NCSU
Gardner Webb
William & Mary
@ODU

On the bright side this should help in the effort to get to 6 wins but per NCAA rules, ECU will likely need to win 7 now to go bowling. I believe we could petition if stuck at 6 wins and perhaps we'd get consideration since this was out of our control. Obviously, VT's SOS & bowl eligibility will be affected as well.

wtf is VT thinking?

Fear

(01-28-2019 07:04 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  I say this in all seriousness: it benefits them to play in Greenville way more than it benefits us to play in Blacksburg, mainly for recruiting reasons.

We also got the better end of the short stick: W&M will travel well to Greenville, much more so than Rhode Island will to Blacksburg.

VPI handled this very poorly. They not only demanded payment for a game that was canceled due to an act of nature (that was headed our way until it veered south, after destroying New Bern... which is only 45 minutes from Greenville) but they also attempted to move next year’s ECU home game to Charlotte, negotiating with BoA Stadium officials without speaking with us first.

I know a lot of really, really awesome Tech fans but in all honesty, their AD and their athletic department look like asses right now.

Agree and my daughter attends VT so I am a quasi fan. Such is life in the non-P5; must deal with arrogant asses if you want big games.

(01-29-2019 07:16 AM)panite Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 06:33 AM)Chappy Wrote:  We don't currently have any FCS games for 2021, 2023 (the years we should be hosting VT) and the years we are currently supposed to go to VT are full:

2020 - Norfolk State, Marshall, at South Carolina, at VT
2022 - Campbell, NC State, at BYU, at VT
2024 - Appalachian State, BYU, at Charlotte, at VT

So we could definitely swing it without having 5 home games or 2 FCS games. However, we've only got the South Carolina game as a big-name opponent, though I'm sure Marshall will bring fans:

2021 - South Carolina, Appalachian State (BofA Stadium), at Marshall
2023 - Marshall, at Appalachian State, at Georgia State
2025 - Charlotte, at Marshall, at NC State

There's also the question of whether that South Carolina game ever happens... it seems to keep moving back.

Most years you have a P5 school on the schedule with South Carolina, NC State, and BYU who is considered a P5 for P5 conference scheduling like Army. There is also time to line up another P5 school scheduling out 6 years:

2020 - one P5 - SC if you don't play at VT. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Get a H& H further out if you can.

2021 - one P5 - SC - switch that game to BofA and play App. St at home plus an opening for another P5 team, G4 team or FCS team.

2022 - P5 NC St and BYU - replace VT with another P5, G4, or FCS team. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Schedule a H&H further out.

2023 - This is the only year you need a P5 school on the schedule unless things can get worked out with VT. Four years out ECU should be able to get a H&H with a P5 school returning the away game further out. If not replace the VT game with a G4 or FCS one and done.

2024 - You have BYU at home which is considered P5 for P5 scheduling. Pick up another P5, G5, or FCS. VT was on the road anyway.

2025 is far enough out to schedule another H&H with a P5, with P5 NC St on the schedule. if ECU can't get a game once again a G4 or FCS one and done.

There is only one year where ECU doesn't have at least one P5 school on the schedule OOC besides 2019. ECU will be scheduling like P5 conferences - SEC and the B-10 - those years if the school cannot replace VT with a P5 school.

This is terrible. I would only be down to drop VT is we can pick up another P5 (and no, BYU is not a P5). All of your proposed years have 1 (at most) P5 team on the schedule. Have you been watching UCF the past 2 years? 1 P5 opponent doesn't cut it, and you still need to be lucky enough that your 2 P5 opponents happen to be good that year.

(01-29-2019 12:33 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 07:16 AM)panite Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 06:33 AM)Chappy Wrote:  We don't currently have any FCS games for 2021, 2023 (the years we should be hosting VT) and the years we are currently supposed to go to VT are full:

2020 - Norfolk State, Marshall, at South Carolina, at VT
2022 - Campbell, NC State, at BYU, at VT
2024 - Appalachian State, BYU, at Charlotte, at VT

So we could definitely swing it without having 5 home games or 2 FCS games. However, we've only got the South Carolina game as a big-name opponent, though I'm sure Marshall will bring fans:

2021 - South Carolina, Appalachian State (BofA Stadium), at Marshall
2023 - Marshall, at Appalachian State, at Georgia State
2025 - Charlotte, at Marshall, at NC State

There's also the question of whether that South Carolina game ever happens... it seems to keep moving back.

Most years you have a P5 school on the schedule with South Carolina, NC State, and BYU who is considered a P5 for P5 conference scheduling like Army. There is also time to line up another P5 school scheduling out 6 years:

2020 - one P5 - SC if you don't play at VT. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Get a H& H further out if you can.

2021 - one P5 - SC - switch that game to BofA and play App. St at home plus an opening for another P5 team, G4 team or FCS team.

2022 - P5 NC St and BYU - replace VT with another P5, G4, or FCS team. VT was on the road so a P5 school looking for a home game will schedule you. Schedule a H&H further out.

2023 - This is the only year you need a P5 school on the schedule unless things can get worked out with VT. Four years out ECU should be able to get a H&H with a P5 school returning the away game further out. If not replace the VT game with a G4 or FCS one and done.

2024 - You have BYU at home which is considered P5 for P5 scheduling. Pick up another P5, G5, or FCS. VT was on the road anyway.

2025 is far enough out to schedule another H&H with a P5, with P5 NC St on the schedule. if ECU can't get a game once again a G4 or FCS one and done.

There is only one year where ECU doesn't have at least one P5 school on the schedule OOC besides 2019. ECU will be scheduling like P5 conferences - SEC and the B-10 - those years if the school cannot replace VT with a P5 school.

This is terrible. I would only be down to drop VT is we can pick up another P5 (and no, BYU is not a P5). All of your proposed years have 1 (at most) P5 team on the schedule. Have you been watching UCF the past 2 years? 1 P5 opponent doesn't cut it, and you still need to be lucky enough that your 2 P5 opponents happen to be good that year.

P5 conferences allow Army and BYU to be scheduled as P5 opponents. The SEC did it for Vandy and the B-10 did it for schools who had them on their schedule after Delaney put out his OOC P5 only edict for at least one game. The B-10 has to give its blessing for those games to count as P5 opponents while most B-10 teams play whack a MAC for 2 weeks a season.

We should cancel our games with VT each year, the day before the game. Screw'em.

I was smoking with the boys upstairs when I
Heard about the whole affair, I said oh no
William and Mary won't do