Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Toledo vs. CMU game thread
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
RocketBBallFan Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,192
Joined: Feb 2010
Reputation: 4
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #141
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
(01-28-2019 07:55 PM)Screwball Wrote:  He had two nice games. I think that is about matchups more than things to expect.

He has actually had 3 straight nice games going back to the Ohio game. He had 16 points and 9 rebounds in that game prior to the two 20+ point games. Going back even further, he had 11 points, 7 rebounds against Miami and 10 points, 9 rebounds against WMU, so he has been on the upswing the last 5 games.
(This post was last modified: 01-28-2019 08:34 PM by RocketBBallFan.)
01-28-2019 08:31 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
H2Oville Rocket Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,401
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 127
I Root For: Toledo R0ckets
Location:
Post: #142
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
(01-28-2019 08:31 PM)RocketBBallFan Wrote:  
(01-28-2019 07:55 PM)Screwball Wrote:  He had two nice games. I think that is about matchups more than things to expect.

He has actually had 3 straight nice games going back to the Ohio game. He had 16 points and 9 rebounds in that game prior to the two 20+ point games. Going back even further, he had 11 points, 7 rebounds against Miami and 10 points, 9 rebounds against WMU, so he has been on the upswing the last 5 games.

I’m eager to see how he does vs. EMU with a veteran post player who has given him trouble. Should be a good gauge of his improvement.
01-28-2019 08:49 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Screwball Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,532
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 10
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #143
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
I want Luke on the floor, but he's not a legit 5. I think that disadvantage will be the difference this year.

But I'm from the camp that loves beef in the low post.

But if they keep swatting those shots around...
01-28-2019 08:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
pono Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,395
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 94
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #144
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
Luke is as legit a modern 5 as there is in the league. does a bit of everything and has added the ability to dribble drive under control. i think even more of the offense should run through him.
01-30-2019 05:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
utrocks84 Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 933
Joined: Jul 2005
Reputation: 6
I Root For: Toledo Rockets
Location:
Post: #145
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
(01-30-2019 05:27 AM)pono Wrote:  Luke is as legit a modern 5 as there is in the league. does a bit of everything and has added the ability to dribble drive under control. i think even more of the offense should run through him.

I agree on both accounts. Luke and Edu provide good rim protection also that a plodding type center wouldn't. We do need a 6'6" or 6'7" 240/250 lb athletic rebounder and defensive stopper though
01-30-2019 07:51 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
H2Oville Rocket Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,401
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 127
I Root For: Toledo R0ckets
Location:
Post: #146
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
(01-30-2019 05:27 AM)pono Wrote:  Luke is as legit a modern 5 as there is in the league. does a bit of everything and has added the ability to dribble drive under control. i think even more of the offense should run through him.

That move and drive from the top of the key against Miami showed just what you’re saying, even though at full speed it appeared to be a slowmo replay. Drove the length of the lane and banked a runner from about five feet over some hapless defender. But again, he disappeared in the second half. Teams seem to be paying much more attention to him on D. Central was often getting backside help and dropping a guard down as well. Navi should have scored 100.
01-30-2019 07:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Screwball Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,532
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 10
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #147
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
I see Luke as a guy who is more comfortable facing the basket. He needs to improve posting up down low and becoming a dormant scorer with his back to the basket. Moses of BS held him to 10 points (6 in the paint) and 5 boards, along with 3 fouls. Moses had 17. I'm not convinced he goes 245 either.
01-30-2019 09:06 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
eastisbest Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,590
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 42
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #148
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
Does anyone actually put their back to the basket on college offense anymore? Thought hadn't occurred to me until I read it.

I really don't see a purpose in Knapke backing down anyone or even attempting against a 250lber. Passing out of the post can be a feature I suppose but I don't think any team anymore is desperate for a traditional post. The game is more passing the perimeter and driving into open spaces. If Knapke's game is naturally on the perimeter and outside the paint, use that difficult match-up. In the paint, Knapke will fair well against similarly leveraged guys, which are rare in this league but he's never going to win the push battle against a stocky 250lber so why play that guy's game? Make the 250lber play Knapke's game or sit lonely in the paint being non-functional.
01-30-2019 09:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Screwball Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,532
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 10
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #149
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
The game has changed it seems, and I'm older than dirt. :-)

To me a true big guy it the guy you can feed inside and he will deliver time after time after time. I did find this article which is rather interesting; How to Post Up in Basketball (12 Tips to Dominate Inside)
01-30-2019 09:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
eastisbest Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,590
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 42
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #150
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
A team that has that player has a rare diversity. The new normal I guess. Knapke would have to roid to get enough weight to back down Moses or others like him but the article does bring back a memory of how Jabbar dealt with that. Why not a jump hook? I don't know. Rules are different in college, you're not going to clear out the post but Knapke seems to have enough ball skills he might be able to shoot before off-side help arrives to grab the ball low. Be fun to see it just to see it.

The other day I was thinking, if I was playing today's game and was DI capable, I could see me going old school. Practicing different iconic moves just to put them in play in a game.
01-30-2019 09:44 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Screwball Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,532
Joined: Feb 2015
Reputation: 10
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #151
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
Navi has kind of developed a fade-away, but I don't see Luke with much of a hook. I think that would aid him greatly given his height.

Boothe and Steve Tayler were more of a post up type guys IMO.
01-30-2019 11:50 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
eastisbest Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 14,590
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 42
I Root For: Toledo
Location:
Post: #152
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
I figure as long as Knapke is changing shots, he's doing ok on D. How he gets his points, I don't think it needs to be in the paint. But having that passing presence there is certainly a plus and that does require back to the net. I see your point. It would be a good role for the Fr to build that skill as he grows to see the floor and game.
01-30-2019 12:37 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
pono Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 8,395
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 94
I Root For:
Location:
Post: #153
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
he needs the ball to make plays. seems like the offense doesn't get him the ball in good places enough.
01-30-2019 04:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
H2Oville Rocket Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 26,401
Joined: Jun 2005
Reputation: 127
I Root For: Toledo R0ckets
Location:
Post: #154
RE: Toledo vs. CMU game thread
(01-30-2019 04:59 PM)pono Wrote:  he needs the ball to make plays. seems like the offense doesn't get him the ball in good places enough.

The last couple games follow a pattern-big Knapke first half, fewer touches/points in the second half. CMU clearly made some defensive adjustments but he should have gotten the ball more in half 2. Neither team had a guy big enough or good enough to defend him.
01-30-2019 05:16 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.