hot seats in da hawse...

I've had a few people recently try to convince me that Trump was "boxed in" and should "cut his losses" on the wall

Perhaps they are wrong?

LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

Hold onto your butts...............

Quote:Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall
By Priscilla Alvarez and Tammy Kupperman, CNN

Updated 5:57 PM ET, Thu January 24, 2019

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/24/politics/...index.html

Boxed in, indeed.

(01-24-2019 06:39 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Hold onto your butts...............

Quote:Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall
By Priscilla Alvarez and Tammy Kupperman, CNN

Updated 5:57 PM ET, Thu January 24, 2019

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/24/politics/...index.html

Boxed in, indeed.

I can only hope fake news got this one right....

(01-24-2019 06:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

nobody cares about ewe're bs semantics....

(01-24-2019 06:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

Interesting. Let's cut the $hit and get real about this. IMHO, we have an illegal immigration problem. Do you agree or disagree? If you agree, then what alternatives do you suggest that would tangibly reduce illegal immigration? One thing that is objectively undeniable is this: The poorest and most vulnerable American citizens are hurt by illegal immigration due to the fact that a lot of downward pressure on wages occur among the least skilled American workers.

(01-24-2019 07:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

Interesting. Let's cut the $hit and get real about this. IMHO, we have an illegal immigration problem. Do you agree or disagree? If you agree, then what alternatives do you suggest that would tangibly reduce illegal immigration? One thing that is objectively undeniable is this: The poorest and most vulnerable American citizens are hurt by illegal immigration due to the fact that a lot of downward pressure on wages occur among the least skilled American workers.

So you're in favor of raising the minimum wage?

(01-24-2019 07:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

Interesting. Let's cut the $hit and get real about this. IMHO, we have an illegal immigration problem. Do you agree or disagree? If you agree, then what alternatives do you suggest that would tangibly reduce illegal immigration? One thing that is objectively undeniable is this: The poorest and most vulnerable American citizens are hurt by illegal immigration due to the fact that a lot of downward pressure on wages occur among the least skilled American workers.

So you're in favor of raising the minimum wage?

(01-24-2019 07:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 07:41 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 06:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. You have 1 Democratic Congressman, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire House delegation, representing the most Trumpian district in the entire nation with a Democratic Congressman, calling for a cave-in to Trump. That's it. 1 out of 235 Democrats

You have 1 out of 47 Democratic Senators, who happens to be the most conservative Dem in the entire Senate delegation, representing the most Trumpian electorate in the nation with a Democratic Senator. calling for a cave-in to Trump. 1 out of 47.

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How many Republican Senators voted to reopen the government without wall funding? Six.

Interesting. Let's cut the $hit and get real about this. IMHO, we have an illegal immigration problem. Do you agree or disagree? If you agree, then what alternatives do you suggest that would tangibly reduce illegal immigration? One thing that is objectively undeniable is this: The poorest and most vulnerable American citizens are hurt by illegal immigration due to the fact that a lot of downward pressure on wages occur among the least skilled American workers.

So you're in favor of raising the minimum wage?

You avoiding my questions?

This thread aged well.......

(01-25-2019 02:26 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  This thread aged well.......

About as well as the majority of yours.

At least the OP didn't use a message board as a source.

I have a thought. Sanctuary cities violate federal law. Suppose Trump directed DOJ to start arresting and prosecuting mayors and police chiefs of sanctuary cities. What would be the reaction? How would that change the debate?

(01-28-2019 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I have a thought. Sanctuary cities violate federal law. Suppose Trump directed DOJ to start arresting and prosecuting mayors and police chiefs of sanctuary cities. What would be the reaction? How would that change the debate?

Ohhhhh, the Demons would have a cow and shiating like one too. There'd be protests and shouts of "dictator" by the Leftists. My opinion is, they need to be arrested and when they find out they will be just watch how fast they do that U-Turn and stop with the sanctuary BS. Now, Crimson's favorite state ala their governor want to make the WHOLE state a sanctuary state. As it is they can't even support their own people, their second favorite school Enemas U. has to ask their fans to chip in for snacks for the football team, etc.

That place is a mess and if you'd ask me if I wanted El Paso to become a New Mexico city I'd say, "shut the heck up"...born a Texan and will die one.

(01-28-2019 04:22 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I have a thought. Sanctuary cities violate federal law. Suppose Trump directed DOJ to start arresting and prosecuting mayors and police chiefs of sanctuary cities. What would be the reaction? How would that change the debate?

I am not sure I want to encourage the Federal government to arrest elected State officials. If the locals don't like sanctuary cities then they should vote the jamokes out of office.