https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

just for you Ollie....

what say you know sir?

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

(01-23-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

(01-23-2019 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Shoot, I cut him some slack. My first huge crush was on the girl next door, literally. She looked so danged cute in her little plaid Catholic School dress with that white blouse and her black Mary Jane's. Here's to you Helen Claire wherever you are!

(01-23-2019 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Shoot, I cut him some slack. My first huge crush was on the girl next door, literally. She looked so danged cute in her little plaid Catholic School dress with that white blouse and her black Mary Jane's. Here's to you Helen Claire wherever you are!

lol....mine was at St. Elizabeth in 3rd grade.....oh yeah, she was the byproduct of legal immigration....

#MariaMesado

(01-23-2019 08:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Shoot, I cut him some slack. My first huge crush was on the girl next door, literally. She looked so danged cute in her little plaid Catholic School dress with that white blouse and her black Mary Jane's. Here's to you Helen Claire wherever you are!

I went to a private school and all my friends in the neighborhood tried to tease me all the time about being a nerd or how I went to a stupid school. That stopped the moment I brought out my yearbook. Their comments went from "haha, you go to a nerd school for losers" to "holy sh*t, the girls dress like that everyday."

Nooooo ooonnnneeee is allowed to immigrate to the Vatican. Irony....

His next trip should be Gaza. Berate the Israelis for their wall.

(01-23-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

The vehicle he used during his Philly visit in 2014 was surprisingly open. Other than the front glass, it was completely open. Here's two of my shots when I was covering the event for the Seattle Times.

(01-23-2019 09:24 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

The vehicle he used during his Philly visit in 2014 was surprisingly open. Other than the front glass, it was completely open. Here's two of my shots when I was covering the event for the Seattle Times.

Did your press credentials get you that close? Nice shots.

(01-23-2019 08:20 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  just for you Ollie....

what say you know sir?

I agree with what you wrote Stinky, I'm not a Pope fancier. I left the church years ago even before I converted. I saw the writing on the wall and I'm not talking about the Vatican murals. Actually, the writing was in a Bible.

The Pope has said too many things to make me think he's a Christian or a Bible reader. You'll probably ask, like what? Well, when he said in an ecumenical gathering that every religion has a path to heaven, that's not something I've read in any Bible.

But, to each his own, it's for them to find out...or listen to others.

(01-23-2019 09:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 09:24 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

The vehicle he used during his Philly visit in 2014 was surprisingly open. Other than the front glass, it was completely open. Here's two of my shots when I was covering the event for the Seattle Times.

Did your press credentials get you that close? Nice shots.

Yea, at that part of his route, they were keeping everyone about 40ft away from the line he was going to be driving, unless you had been issued credentials. And even for us, they were limiting the size lenses we were allowed to use inside the security perimeter. I had to let the Secret Service hold onto my 600mm until I left that area. lol

(01-23-2019 09:57 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 09:30 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 09:24 PM)q5sys Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy


isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Not only walled but guarded and under total video surveillance. They probably even have Zucchetto in the sky (a pope drone). And of course if he is travelling abroad he'll have his bullet proof Popemobile and his own version of the Vatican Secret Service. You would think God should be sufficient?

The vehicle he used during his Philly visit in 2014 was surprisingly open. Other than the front glass, it was completely open. Here's two of my shots when I was covering the event for the Seattle Times.

Did your press credentials get you that close? Nice shots.

Yea, at that part of his route, they were keeping everyone about 40ft away from the line he was going to be driving, unless you had been issued credentials. And even for us, they were limiting the size lenses we were allowed to use inside the security perimeter. I had to let the Secret Service hold onto my 600mm until I left that area. lol

not only am I impressed with responding to relevant subject matter, but those pics were top notch...

fwiw, job well done....

What do you expect? A high % of Catholics live in the countries with highest murder rates on the planet. Pope on the rope soap should say obey laws but how can you blame him if his folks are are safe and have more money in the USA? Keeping Catholics alive is part of the job I would imagine.

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

Pope Francis is clearly wrong about his opinion on this matter. As this issue is not a matter of his church's doctrine, infallibility is not "in play" here, so to speak. The concept of papal infallibility does not mean the Pope never makes mistakes or is never wrong about anything (that is a lie concocted by those whose hatred of the pope and his church approaches or surpasses the level of these who hate President Trump, for example.) Papal infallibility covers an incredibly narrow and extremely specific area of decisions that never includes things like the Pope's personal opinions, especially on subjective issues such as this.

So, despite the mainstream media's attempts to incorrectly conflate papal infallibility with non-applicable decisions, opinions and actions, the infallibility concept does not apply here.

Again, IMHO, Pope Francis is incorrect in his assessment of the situation, no doubt skewed by his upbringing in a socialistic environment, much the same as AOC's opinions on the matter (and the MSM's as well) are patently incorrect and out of line with much of mainstream American opinion and desires on these kinds of issues.

And yes, the Vatican, like many of the Demoncraps own houses and abodes, is walled, with security and doormen/guards. The Vatican also maintains an elaborate scientific astronomical observatory (located on a mountaintop in the western US) dedicated to scientific research and observation, but few wish to acknowledge this fact as it conflicts with their talking points. The hypocrisy of the leftist's position is mind-boggling, for those who have not already let their brains fall out of their heads.

Finally, Pope Francis so far appears to be a less-than stellar pope, in many of his own church's members opinions. Having the previous two Popes be overall above average in that office, a letdown was inevitable. But don't forget how initially this pope was embraced by the leftist media relatively as their darling, so there's that.

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

He's a communist and covered up for the child molesters in the church.

I think God inspired the choice of Pope John Paul and his "legions" in Poland eventually brought down Stalin's legacy.

If God inspired the choice of Francis, I'm definitely not sure of the purpose.

(01-23-2019 11:00 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:28 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/amid-...g-us-crazy

Quote:VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis said Wednesday that fear of migration is “making us crazy” as he began a trip to Central America amid a standoff over President Donald Trump’s promised wall at the U.S.-Mexico border and a new caravan of migrants heading north

isn't the vatican a sovereign walled state within a city???

read the rest if'n ya want.....I wouldn't....

what an infallible hypocrytical idiot that cat is....

He's a communist and covered up for the child molesters in the church.

I think God inspired the choice of Pope John Paul and his "legions" in Poland eventually brought down Stalin's legacy.

If God inspired the choice of Francis, I'm definitely not sure of the purpose.

Sadly, I agree with this post wholeheartedly, and wish that was not the case. Covering for those that abuse the most innocent of us while in a position of authority (and claiming the moral high ground) is as far away from my morality as one can be.

(01-23-2019 08:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

LOL


That is Martin Luther nailing his thesis to the wall for those who don't know. To put it in language non-Christians living in 2019 would understand....

This is when the rebels (protestant church) finally broke away from the Empire (Roman Catholic Church).

That is actually a very accurate analogy. The RCC was an actual Empire that had been putting Christians who rejected the RCC to death for nearly 1000 years. Sometimes torturing them first.

This was the birth of the rebellion against the Empire.

Now before any Catholics out there blow a gasket, we are talking about the power structure as being evil, not the individual Catholics. There are saved Christians within the Catholic Church. And both the Catholic and Protestant church are filled with unsaved people pretending to be Christian.

(01-23-2019 09:32 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 08:20 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  just for you Ollie....

what say you know sir?

I agree with what you wrote Stinky, I'm not a Pope fancier. I left the church years ago even before I converted. I saw the writing on the wall and I'm not talking about the Vatican murals. Actually, the writing was in a Bible.

The Pope has said too many things to make me think he's a Christian or a Bible reader. You'll probably ask, like what? Well, when he said in an ecumenical gathering that every religion has a path to heaven, that's not something I've read in any Bible.

But, to each his own, it's for them to find out...or listen to others.

Christ said He was the ONLY way to the Father and NO MAN could come to the Father except through Him.

The Pope says you don't need Christ at all to be redeemed to the Father, there are many paths.

That's right folks, it wasn't Lucifer who said that, it was the "Pope".

<remembers Superman and Clark Kent>

Come to think of it, you never see Lucifer and the Pope together at the same time.....hey wait a minute