When I was in the 5th grade in Science class we learned that plants absorb CO2 and release O2. Doesn't that mean, the more CO2 that is released the more plants will grow and therefore release more O2? Seems like a win win. But if not just Blow China, Russia and India off the map and the problem is solved since they create more than 40% of the Earth's emissions.

(01-22-2019 06:06 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  When I was in the 5th grade in Science class we learned that plants absorb CO2 and release O2. Doesn't that mean, the more CO2 that is released the more plants will grow and therefore release more O2? Seems like a win win. But if not just Blow China, Russia and India off the map and the problem is solved since they create more than 40% of the Earth's emissions.

now you know why I keep using "feeding the trees" as a punchline....

(01-22-2019 06:06 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  When I was in the 5th grade in Science class we learned that plants absorb CO2 and release O2. Doesn't that mean, the more CO2 that is released the more plants will grow and therefore release more O2? Seems like a win win. But if not just Blow China, Russia and India off the map and the problem is solved since they create more than 40% of the Earth's emissions.

That 40% is percentage of man made CO2. The earth itself creates far more than all of man.

(01-22-2019 06:13 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:06 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  When I was in the 5th grade in Science class we learned that plants absorb CO2 and release O2. Doesn't that mean, the more CO2 that is released the more plants will grow and therefore release more O2? Seems like a win win. But if not just Blow China, Russia and India off the map and the problem is solved since they create more than 40% of the Earth's emissions.

That 40% is percentage of man made CO2. The earth itself creates far more than all of man.

that dayum planet....

Tell Ocasio-Cortez to move to China and try to make a difference there instead.

(01-22-2019 06:39 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Tell Ocasio-Cortez to move to China and try to make a difference there instead.

The USA has made some decent reductions by largely swapping to more natural gas usage. We're still pretty bad per capita considering. But yeah, Asia and soon Africa are where you're seeing the huge increases in carbon emissions and where it is going to continue increasing. How we combat that, I have no idea

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(01-22-2019 06:54 PM)Shrack[img' Wrote:  https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-10-2016/wEqYs_.gif[/img]']

(01-22-2019 06:39 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Tell Ocasio-Cortez to move to China and try to make a difference there instead.

The USA has made some decent reductions by largely swapping to more natural gas usage. We're still pretty bad per capita considering. But yeah, Asia and soon Africa are where you're seeing the huge increases in carbon emissions and where it is going to continue increasing. How we combat that, I have no idea

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therefore, if we continue to promote alternatives coupled with maximizing our current resources along the way would make sense, eh?

When all of the libs stop using plastics, stop heating their homes, and start walking to work

Then we can talk and try to keep a straight face.

This girl is in waaaaay over her head

(01-22-2019 05:22 PM)Shrack Wrote:  She's saying it is the beginning of the end of the world as we know it if we do not do anything about it, according to the UN report. You guys talk about misleading headlines a lot and this one is certainly that.

We can debate climate change or global warming or all the different methods used or whatever you want to call it all day long. But increasing CO2 emissions WILL make the planet harsher to live on more quickly over time. If CO2 emissions continue to increase, things are going to get worse. Can anyone specifically say how bad it is going to get? No. We dont know everything and models are very often wrong, but we know something we as a species arent used to is going to happen due to what we are doing. It could potentially be very, very bad due to weather changes, crop yields, and raw temperatures.

I don't see how anyone could honestly think humans just couldn't possibly have a major impact on the planet. There are billions and billions of us and we just keep growing. Its like we all just want to stick our heads in the sand over important issues because of politics or what letter is next to someone's name. We could easily kill nearly every human and animal on the planet right now if we chose to do so. We could easily make gigantic swaths of this planet entirely uninhabitable for years and years simply by dropping a man made bomb. Humans wield ultimate power in context of this planet we live on and at the same time we are apparently unable or unwilling to do simple things to help our species for stupid reasons.

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What would you have us all do? Go back to living in caves?
You, Gore and Ocasio Cortez give up your homes first. Lead by example.

(01-22-2019 08:31 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 05:22 PM)Shrack Wrote:  She's saying it is the beginning of the end of the world as we know it if we do not do anything about it, according to the UN report. You guys talk about misleading headlines a lot and this one is certainly that.

We can debate climate change or global warming or all the different methods used or whatever you want to call it all day long. But increasing CO2 emissions WILL make the planet harsher to live on more quickly over time. If CO2 emissions continue to increase, things are going to get worse. Can anyone specifically say how bad it is going to get? No. We dont know everything and models are very often wrong, but we know something we as a species arent used to is going to happen due to what we are doing. It could potentially be very, very bad due to weather changes, crop yields, and raw temperatures.

I don't see how anyone could honestly think humans just couldn't possibly have a major impact on the planet. There are billions and billions of us and we just keep growing. Its like we all just want to stick our heads in the sand over important issues because of politics or what letter is next to someone's name. We could easily kill nearly every human and animal on the planet right now if we chose to do so. We could easily make gigantic swaths of this planet entirely uninhabitable for years and years simply by dropping a man made bomb. Humans wield ultimate power in context of this planet we live on and at the same time we are apparently unable or unwilling to do simple things to help our species for stupid reasons.

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What would you have us all do? Go back to living in caves?
You, Gore and Ocasio Cortez give up your homes first. Lead by example.

Strawman. No one is saying to give up your home

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(01-22-2019 06:54 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 06:39 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Tell Ocasio-Cortez to move to China and try to make a difference there instead.

The USA has made some decent reductions by largely swapping to more natural gas usage. We're still pretty bad per capita considering. But yeah, Asia and soon Africa are where you're seeing the huge increases in carbon emissions and where it is going to continue increasing. How we combat that, I have no idea

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Look at that list. If those at the bottom continue with what they are doing, what we do in the United States makes no dent in “world” CO2 levels.

Look, I want clean water and air, but am not willing to wreck our economy to do it when the biggest increases of CO2 output don’t have to control what they output.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/clima...-poll.html

Some 73 percent of Americans polled late last year said that global warming was happening, the report found, a jump of 10 percentage points from 2015 and three points since last March.

The rise in the number of Americans who say global warming is personally important to them was even sharper, jumping nine percentage points since March to 72 percent, another record over the past decade.

It's too bad the 28 percenters are so vocal here. But thankfully I can take comfort in the fact that I am part of a vast majority of Americans and that the 10 posters who spend all day and all night repeating the same sentences and memes aren't attracting any new followers.

Do I believe the Earth will end in 12 years? No. Do I feel that we'll pass the point of no return before the end of my lifetime? Sadly, yes.

Global warming is important to me.

But I will only act once those that tell me that global warming is an emergency act like global warming is an emergency.

As others as said, one person can't make a difference so I will continue to live my life like those that claim global warming is an emergency - as I want to, regardless of how that is or is not impactful to the Earth.

Get your shite in order, then come a knocking. Not the other way around.

(01-22-2019 09:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/clima...-poll.html

Some 73 percent of Americans polled late last year said that global warming was happening, the report found, a jump of 10 percentage points from 2015 and three points since last March.

The rise in the number of Americans who say global warming is personally important to them was even sharper, jumping nine percentage points since March to 72 percent, another record over the past decade.

It's too bad the 28 percenters are so vocal here. But thankfully I can take comfort in the fact that I am part of a vast majority of Americans and that the 10 posters who spend all day and all night repeating the same sentences and memes aren't attracting any new followers.

Do I believe the Earth will end in 12 years? No. Do I feel that we'll pass the point of no return before the end of my lifetime? Sadly, yes.

I like confirmation from MUH POLES that 72% are brainwashed and willingly violate the AUP to prove a point......

ya gotta love line 3 ---> line 4

(01-22-2019 09:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/clima...-poll.html

Some 73 percent of Americans polled late last year said that global warming was happening, the report found, a jump of 10 percentage points from 2015 and three points since last March.

The rise in the number of Americans who say global warming is personally important to them was even sharper, jumping nine percentage points since March to 72 percent, another record over the past decade.

It's too bad the 28 percenters are so vocal here. But thankfully I can take comfort in the fact that I am part of a vast majority of Americans and that the 10 posters who spend all day and all night repeating the same sentences and memes aren't attracting any new followers.

Do I believe the Earth will end in 12 years? No. Do I feel that we'll pass the point of no return before the end of my lifetime? Sadly, yes.

I'm surprised only 73% think it's real. Most so-called deniers think it's real. What they doubt varies from the causes to the affects. The climate changes. We affect it. So do volcanoes. If we warm it up enough, maybe we'll survive the next ice age.

(01-22-2019 10:19 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 09:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/clima...-poll.html

Some 73 percent of Americans polled late last year said that global warming was happening, the report found, a jump of 10 percentage points from 2015 and three points since last March.

The rise in the number of Americans who say global warming is personally important to them was even sharper, jumping nine percentage points since March to 72 percent, another record over the past decade.

It's too bad the 28 percenters are so vocal here. But thankfully I can take comfort in the fact that I am part of a vast majority of Americans and that the 10 posters who spend all day and all night repeating the same sentences and memes aren't attracting any new followers.

Do I believe the Earth will end in 12 years? No. Do I feel that we'll pass the point of no return before the end of my lifetime? Sadly, yes.

I'm surprised only 73% think it's real. Most so-called deniers think it's real. What they doubt varies from the causes to the affects. The climate changes. We affect it. So do volcanoes. If we warm it up enough, maybe we'll survive the next ice age.

All of that and hacking down the Rain Forrest and generally "paving over paradise to put up a parking lot" as Joni Mitchell once noted. Cut out the plants that efficiently convert C02 to Oxygen and of course Carbon dioxide rises.

https://goo.gl/images/9xaSxc

Yes, climate is changing. Climate is always changing. The only thing that never changes is the need for man to feel significant and in control of his own destiny. Unfortunately, some things are much larger than man and well beyond his control. Climate is one of those things.

Do you think that when the little ice age was starting to trend the greatest minds of the day sat around saying if we don't start increasing our Co2 output we are all going to freeze to death. We will all be dead in 12 years?

Oh, and if you want to get co2 admissions back to 1900 levels all you have to do is kill about 6 billion people. If you aren't willing to do that, then it's not going to happen. Well, that or everyone can cut their carbon footprint by 80% immediately. Good luck with that.

(01-22-2019 03:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-22-2019 10:55 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Stupid person who knows nothing continues to know nothing...

"Millennials and people, you know, Gen Z and all these folks that will come after us are looking up and we’re like: ‘The world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?'" Ocasio-Cortez said.

The Democratic Socialist said the fight against climate change is war and that it’s “our World War II.”

Well, if all the world is going to see in the next 12 years are more Ocasio-Cortez level leadership then having it end might be a good thing. But if it doesn't she really needs to just go away and take a few more idiots in the House with her.

She is a blithering moron.

If she actually has a degree in economics from BU, a skool my daughter wanted to go to,

Thank the Lord Above that didn't happen.

What in the hell are these "institutions of higher learning" even teaching these kids anymore?

Is it "Teaching"? or rote indoctrination?

Think it may well be time some of us who have played the game, done ok, step back into that cesspool.

Seriously considering it.

(01-22-2019 09:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/clima...-poll.html

Some 73 percent of Americans polled late last year said that global warming was happening, the report found, a jump of 10 percentage points from 2015 and three points since last March.

The rise in the number of Americans who say global warming is personally important to them was even sharper, jumping nine percentage points since March to 72 percent, another record over the past decade.

It's too bad the 28 percenters are so vocal here. But thankfully I can take comfort in the fact that I am part of a vast majority of Americans and that the 10 posters who spend all day and all night repeating the same sentences and memes aren't attracting any new followers.

Do I believe the Earth will end in 12 years? No. Do I feel that we'll pass the point of no return before the end of my lifetime? Sadly, yes.

Errr, wut?

Global warming may well be happening. Warming and COOOLDASSHITTESTNESS been happening too. As recent as 10-15k years ago. You ever seen the Grand Canyon?

So, yea. What to do? Kill peoples pursuits and dreams in real time, in the false hunt for trying to prevent the natural cycles of life and nature on this marble?

Or let this brief, very temporary experiment go on for as long as humanely possible for those we care about?

Like kids, hopefully grandkids and etc.

Pro-tip: We'll be here for a wink and a cup of coffee when it's all said and done. Shouldn't we just enjoy it?

Wish all sides would just knock it off.