Quote:During a closed-door interview with Congressional lawmakers in Washington, George Papadopoulos, the former foreign policy advisor to the Donald Trump presidential campaign, revealed the name the man he believes was a spy working on the campaign, according to a transcript of the testimony reviewed by The Epoch Times.
During a day-long session with lawmakers on the House judiciary and oversight committees on October 25 last year, Papadopoulos, under penalty of perjury, detailed a series of what he described as “strange” interactions with a member of the Trump campaign. The timing and content of that person’s communications led Papadopoulos to have suspicions that he was covertly working on behalf of U.S. intelligence.
Papadopoulos previously hinted in public statements and interviews that he knew of a spy in the Trump campaign, but never revealed the name. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson has also said the FBI had a “human source” inside the campaign.

Asked about the person who Papadopoulos alleged is a spy, another former Trump campaign member told The Epoch Times that he has no suspicions about the man in question. The Epoch Times was unable to verify the allegation made by Papadopoulos and is withholding the name he provided to Congress. In this article, we refer to him as Person A.

Quote:The alleged spy began contacting Papadopoulos around the time Papadopoulos met with the foreign minister of Greece in May 2016. Though he is not named in the testimony, Nikos Kotzias was Greece’s minister for foreign affairs at the time. The meeting with Kotzias was significant because Papadopoulos claims it was the only time he told anyone directly that Russia was in possession of thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails, a rumor he learned from Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud.

Quote:The alleged spy then reemerged months later in September 2016 asking Papadopoulos to attend a meeting between the Greek foreign minister and two senior Trump campaign members. Papadopoulos told lawmakers that “it made no sense to me of why this person would want me to join a meeting with the Greek foreign minister, Michael Flynn, and Jeff Sessions unless he potentially was informed of what I told the Greek foreign minister myself.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-...66153.html

Read the article, bizarre stuff:

Remember the sequence of events:

1) Mifsud reaches out to Papa for a meeting, brings along a fake Putin niece, talks about Russians having Hillary's emails

2) Stefan Halper later meets with Papa, tries to get him to talk about it.

That's the classic 'push-pull' intelligence op. 1 operative plants the info with the target, then another approaches to 'prove' the target is dirty by getting them to 'confess'.

In this case, to Russian collusion.

But instead of falling into the trap, when Halper brings it up, Papa says "Hell no I'm not responding that offer, that would be treason." Papa instead strongly DENIED any collusion with the Russians, and Halper returned from that meeting empty handed. So later on, trying to salvage the operation, an FBI agent tries to talk Papa into wearing a wire so he can get Mifsud on audio repeating the Clinton email offer. And Papa shuts this idea down immediately. They have set Mifsud up as a real spy to cover the tracks of being a fake spy?


Only after this push-pull op falls apart because Papa won't cooperate, we get the strange series of events in Israel with the $10,000. Can you imagine Agent A's frustration? They have it all set up, Mifsud got the "Russian" offer about Clinton's emails to Papa, Halper tried to extract the 'confession' from Papa that the offer had been made & he was considering it, and Papa wouldn't walk into the trap. So Papa gets roped into this weird deal where some guy just hands him $10,000. Which he's smart enough to ditch before coming back to the US. And he's intercepted at Dulles by none other than Agent A, looking for that $10k and surprised & mad he can't find it.

(01-16-2019 03:55 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:During a closed-door interview with Congressional lawmakers in Washington, George Papadopoulos, the former foreign policy advisor to the Donald Trump presidential campaign, revealed the name the man he believes was a spy working on the campaign, according to a transcript of the testimony reviewed by The Epoch Times.
During a day-long session with lawmakers on the House judiciary and oversight committees on October 25 last year, Papadopoulos, under penalty of perjury, detailed a series of what he described as “strange” interactions with a member of the Trump campaign. The timing and content of that person’s communications led Papadopoulos to have suspicions that he was covertly working on behalf of U.S. intelligence.
Papadopoulos previously hinted in public statements and interviews that he knew of a spy in the Trump campaign, but never revealed the name. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson has also said the FBI had a “human source” inside the campaign.

Asked about the person who Papadopoulos alleged is a spy, another former Trump campaign member told The Epoch Times that he has no suspicions about the man in question. The Epoch Times was unable to verify the allegation made by Papadopoulos and is withholding the name he provided to Congress. In this article, we refer to him as Person A.

Quote:The alleged spy began contacting Papadopoulos around the time Papadopoulos met with the foreign minister of Greece in May 2016. Though he is not named in the testimony, Nikos Kotzias was Greece’s minister for foreign affairs at the time. The meeting with Kotzias was significant because Papadopoulos claims it was the only time he told anyone directly that Russia was in possession of thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails, a rumor he learned from Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud.

Quote:The alleged spy then reemerged months later in September 2016 asking Papadopoulos to attend a meeting between the Greek foreign minister and two senior Trump campaign members. Papadopoulos told lawmakers that “it made no sense to me of why this person would want me to join a meeting with the Greek foreign minister, Michael Flynn, and Jeff Sessions unless he potentially was informed of what I told the Greek foreign minister myself.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-...66153.html

Read the article, bizarre stuff:

Remember the sequence of events:

1) Mifsud reaches out to Papa for a meeting, brings along a fake Putin niece, talks about Russians having Hillary's emails

2) Stefan Halper later meets with Papa, tries to get him to talk about it.

That's the classic 'push-pull' intelligence op. 1 operative plants the info with the target, then another approaches to 'prove' the target is dirty by getting them to 'confess'.

In this case, to Russian collusion.

But instead of falling into the trap, when Halper brings it up, Papa says "Hell no I'm not responding that offer, that would be treason." Papa instead strongly DENIED any collusion with the Russians, and Halper returned from that meeting empty handed. So later on, trying to salvage the operation, an FBI agent tries to talk Papa into wearing a wire so he can get Mifsud on audio repeating the Clinton email offer. And Papa shuts this idea down immediately. They have set Mifsud up as a real spy to cover the tracks of being a fake spy?


Only after this push-pull op falls apart because Papa won't cooperate, we get the strange series of events in Israel with the $10,000. Can you imagine Agent A's frustration? They have it all set up, Mifsud got the "Russian" offer about Clinton's emails to Papa, Halper tried to extract the 'confession' from Papa that the offer had been made & he was considering it, and Papa wouldn't walk into the trap. So Papa gets roped into this weird deal where some guy just hands him $10,000. Which he's smart enough to ditch before coming back to the US. And he's intercepted at Dulles by none other than Agent A, looking for that $10k and surprised & mad he can't find it.

The question no one is asking is "How did Mifsud know about the emails?"

(01-16-2019 04:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 03:55 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:During a closed-door interview with Congressional lawmakers in Washington, George Papadopoulos, the former foreign policy advisor to the Donald Trump presidential campaign, revealed the name the man he believes was a spy working on the campaign, according to a transcript of the testimony reviewed by The Epoch Times.
During a day-long session with lawmakers on the House judiciary and oversight committees on October 25 last year, Papadopoulos, under penalty of perjury, detailed a series of what he described as “strange” interactions with a member of the Trump campaign. The timing and content of that person’s communications led Papadopoulos to have suspicions that he was covertly working on behalf of U.S. intelligence.
Papadopoulos previously hinted in public statements and interviews that he knew of a spy in the Trump campaign, but never revealed the name. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson has also said the FBI had a “human source” inside the campaign.

Asked about the person who Papadopoulos alleged is a spy, another former Trump campaign member told The Epoch Times that he has no suspicions about the man in question. The Epoch Times was unable to verify the allegation made by Papadopoulos and is withholding the name he provided to Congress. In this article, we refer to him as Person A.

Quote:The alleged spy began contacting Papadopoulos around the time Papadopoulos met with the foreign minister of Greece in May 2016. Though he is not named in the testimony, Nikos Kotzias was Greece’s minister for foreign affairs at the time. The meeting with Kotzias was significant because Papadopoulos claims it was the only time he told anyone directly that Russia was in possession of thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails, a rumor he learned from Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud.

Quote:The alleged spy then reemerged months later in September 2016 asking Papadopoulos to attend a meeting between the Greek foreign minister and two senior Trump campaign members. Papadopoulos told lawmakers that “it made no sense to me of why this person would want me to join a meeting with the Greek foreign minister, Michael Flynn, and Jeff Sessions unless he potentially was informed of what I told the Greek foreign minister myself.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-...66153.html

Read the article, bizarre stuff:

Remember the sequence of events:

1) Mifsud reaches out to Papa for a meeting, brings along a fake Putin niece, talks about Russians having Hillary's emails

2) Stefan Halper later meets with Papa, tries to get him to talk about it.

That's the classic 'push-pull' intelligence op. 1 operative plants the info with the target, then another approaches to 'prove' the target is dirty by getting them to 'confess'.

In this case, to Russian collusion.

But instead of falling into the trap, when Halper brings it up, Papa says "Hell no I'm not responding that offer, that would be treason." Papa instead strongly DENIED any collusion with the Russians, and Halper returned from that meeting empty handed. So later on, trying to salvage the operation, an FBI agent tries to talk Papa into wearing a wire so he can get Mifsud on audio repeating the Clinton email offer. And Papa shuts this idea down immediately. They have set Mifsud up as a real spy to cover the tracks of being a fake spy?


Only after this push-pull op falls apart because Papa won't cooperate, we get the strange series of events in Israel with the $10,000. Can you imagine Agent A's frustration? They have it all set up, Mifsud got the "Russian" offer about Clinton's emails to Papa, Halper tried to extract the 'confession' from Papa that the offer had been made & he was considering it, and Papa wouldn't walk into the trap. So Papa gets roped into this weird deal where some guy just hands him $10,000. Which he's smart enough to ditch before coming back to the US. And he's intercepted at Dulles by none other than Agent A, looking for that $10k and surprised & mad he can't find it.

The question no one is asking is "How did Mifsud know about the emails?"

The emails were being investigated by the FBI as early as July 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Cl...y_referral

Remember, these are not the Podesta emails that Wikileaks released and Crowdstrike claims Russian responsibility. These are the emails about weddings and yoga that were bleached and nobody has seen. It wouldn't have been a stretch for Mifsud to say Russia had them.

(01-16-2019 04:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The questions no one is asking is "How did Mifsud know about the emails?"

https://twitter.com/Brian_Whit/status/10...2634847232

who is joseph mifsud and why did you disappear ...

COME OUT, COME OUT, WHOEVER YOU ARE

It's a sad day when our intelligence agencies can't even figure out how to entrap people properly.

(01-16-2019 04:25 PM)green Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  The questions no one is asking is "How did Mifsud know about the emails?"

https://twitter.com/Brian_Whit/status/10...2634847232

who is joseph mifsud and why did you disappear ...

COME OUT, COME OUT, WHOEVER YOU ARE

He is probably in the Witness Protection Program somewhere in Utah or New Mexico. I doubt the FBI killed him, but I guess you never know anymore.

CIA really wanted Hillary to win.

It's hilarious really.

If you read a Tom Clancy novel you'd think intelligence apparatuses are tech wizards, black-robed nijas, and stone cold efficient killers.

Instead, we get hamfisted meetings with Greek ministers and $10k envelopes. $10k! $10k to try to influence the election of the most powerful country on the planet! $10k!

I remember a conversation once when I was much younger that was about government cover-ups and conspiracies. Real "we never landed on the moon" type of stuff. You think we have alien saucers at Area 51? All I could think of was how the President of the United States of America himself couldn't even keep a ****** affair secret.......

(01-16-2019 04:26 PM)q5sys Wrote:  It's a sad day when our intelligence agencies can't even figure out how to entrap people properly.

Looks like Papadapoulos single handidly thwarted their evil plan.

Papo's attorney should now be sending out subpoenas to Peter Strojk to hand over documents of how he thought he should be searching Papo as he arrived in the US for tat cash.

I would also want to see details of that in the FISA record. I mean, agent Strojk and Lying McCabe certainly would have notified the court that a target of theirs actually refused to be a part of a crime.

(01-16-2019 04:46 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  It's hilarious really.

If you read a Tom Clancy novel you'd think intelligence apparatuses are tech wizards, black-robed nijas, and stone cold efficient killers.

Instead, we get hamfisted meetings with Greek ministers and $10k envelopes. $10k! $10k to try to influence the election of the most powerful country on the planet! $10k!

I remember a conversation once when I was much younger that was about government cover-ups and conspiracies. Real "we never landed on the moon" type of stuff. You think we have alien saucers at Area 51? All I could think of was how the President of the United States of America himself couldn't even keep a ****** affair secret.......

Of course Papadopolous is a blowhard and a liar, so you can't be sure they are really this clownish.

(01-16-2019 04:46 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  hamfisted meetings with Greek ministers and $10k envelopes. $10k! $10k to try to influence the election of the most powerful country on the planet! $10k!

As Christopher Hitchens — wish we still had him around — once said when discussing one of Bill Clinton’s scandals back in the ’90s: “Notice how cheap the whole thing is. And inexpensive, too.”

Trump has been floating us to get out of NATO but you guys believe this crap. Gosh darn it. I’d snap all you freshman with a towel in the nutsack if you were in front of me. We have a compromised individual in the big chair but these are the threads you guys start and believe????


The epoch Times...........

Sounds legit....

Snap snap snap.... all seven of ya and BB would get two snaps.......

(01-16-2019 09:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump has been floating us to get out of NATO but you guys believe this crap. Gosh darn it. I’d snap all you freshman with a towel in the nutsack if you were in front of me. We have a compromised individual in the big chair but these are the threads you guys start and believe????

Do you understand that at our current level of defense spending, we are unable to fulfill our commitments, including those to NATO? There are three options:

1) Get our NATO and other allies to pick up more of the load, so we can cut back our commitments; or
2) Spend more on defense; or
3) Ignore some of out commitments and live with the risks.

Which of those three options would you select?

(01-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump has been floating us to get out of NATO but you guys believe this crap. Gosh darn it. I’d snap all you freshman with a towel in the nutsack if you were in front of me. We have a compromised individual in the big chair but these are the threads you guys start and believe????

Do you understand that at our current level of defense spending, we are unable to fulfill our commitments, including those to NATO? Overwork, under-maintenance, and under-training are the primary causes of two Navy ships getting hit by merchantmen in 2017. There are three options:

1) Get our NATO and other allies to pick up more of the load, so we can cut back; or
2) Spend more on defense; or
3) Ignore some of out commitments and live with the risks.

Which of those three options would you select?

I don’t even recognize you anymore. I really don’t. It’s amazing to me how every single one of you have hopped into a line. Now I’m having a good night and don’t want to argue. I’m just amazed really.

(01-16-2019 10:03 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump has been floating us to get out of NATO but you guys believe this crap. Gosh darn it. I’d snap all you freshman with a towel in the nutsack if you were in front of me. We have a compromised individual in the big chair but these are the threads you guys start and believe????

Do you understand that at our current level of defense spending, we are unable to fulfill our commitments, including those to NATO? Overwork, under-maintenance, and under-training are the primary causes of two Navy ships getting hit by merchantmen in 2017. There are three options:
1) Get our NATO and other allies to pick up more of the load, so we can cut back; or
2) Spend more on defense; or
3) Ignore some of out commitments and live with the risks.
Which of those three options would you select?

I don’t even recognize you anymore. I really don’t. It’s amazing to me how every single one of you have hopped into a line. Now I’m having a good night and don’t want to argue. I’m just amazed really.

Interestingly, I haven't changed one bit. At least not on this issue. I would have asked precisely the same question 10 years ago, except obviously I would not have been able to cite the two China Sea disasters 10 years ago. It's been a problem for some time.

I don't recognize you anymore. I used to think you were a reasonable leftist, who went off on tangents from time to time, but generally was reasonable. Lately, I've seen all tangents and no reasonable from you.

It would really be helpful for meaningful conversation if you would acknowledge reality from time to time.

(01-16-2019 10:03 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 09:23 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Trump has been floating us to get out of NATO but you guys believe this crap. Gosh darn it. I’d snap all you freshman with a towel in the nutsack if you were in front of me. We have a compromised individual in the big chair but these are the threads you guys start and believe????

Do you understand that at our current level of defense spending, we are unable to fulfill our commitments, including those to NATO? Overwork, under-maintenance, and under-training are the primary causes of two Navy ships getting hit by merchantmen in 2017. There are three options:

1) Get our NATO and other allies to pick up more of the load, so we can cut back; or
2) Spend more on defense; or
3) Ignore some of out commitments and live with the risks.

Which of those three options would you select?

I don’t even recognize you anymore. I really don’t. It’s amazing to me how every single one of you have hopped into a line. Now I’m having a good night and don’t want to argue. I’m just amazed really.

He wasn't asking you to argue. He asked you a simple question. Instead of answering and saying I'd rather not get into this tonight.
You choose to say something negative about him.

(01-16-2019 04:19 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 04:10 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 03:55 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Quote:During a closed-door interview with Congressional lawmakers in Washington, George Papadopoulos, the former foreign policy advisor to the Donald Trump presidential campaign, revealed the name the man he believes was a spy working on the campaign, according to a transcript of the testimony reviewed by The Epoch Times.
During a day-long session with lawmakers on the House judiciary and oversight committees on October 25 last year, Papadopoulos, under penalty of perjury, detailed a series of what he described as “strange” interactions with a member of the Trump campaign. The timing and content of that person’s communications led Papadopoulos to have suspicions that he was covertly working on behalf of U.S. intelligence.
Papadopoulos previously hinted in public statements and interviews that he knew of a spy in the Trump campaign, but never revealed the name. Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson has also said the FBI had a “human source” inside the campaign.

Asked about the person who Papadopoulos alleged is a spy, another former Trump campaign member told The Epoch Times that he has no suspicions about the man in question. The Epoch Times was unable to verify the allegation made by Papadopoulos and is withholding the name he provided to Congress. In this article, we refer to him as Person A.

Quote:The alleged spy began contacting Papadopoulos around the time Papadopoulos met with the foreign minister of Greece in May 2016. Though he is not named in the testimony, Nikos Kotzias was Greece’s minister for foreign affairs at the time. The meeting with Kotzias was significant because Papadopoulos claims it was the only time he told anyone directly that Russia was in possession of thousands of Hillary Clinton’s emails, a rumor he learned from Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud.

Quote:The alleged spy then reemerged months later in September 2016 asking Papadopoulos to attend a meeting between the Greek foreign minister and two senior Trump campaign members. Papadopoulos told lawmakers that “it made no sense to me of why this person would want me to join a meeting with the Greek foreign minister, Michael Flynn, and Jeff Sessions unless he potentially was informed of what I told the Greek foreign minister myself.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-...66153.html

Read the article, bizarre stuff:

Remember the sequence of events:

1) Mifsud reaches out to Papa for a meeting, brings along a fake Putin niece, talks about Russians having Hillary's emails

2) Stefan Halper later meets with Papa, tries to get him to talk about it.

That's the classic 'push-pull' intelligence op. 1 operative plants the info with the target, then another approaches to 'prove' the target is dirty by getting them to 'confess'.

In this case, to Russian collusion.

But instead of falling into the trap, when Halper brings it up, Papa says "Hell no I'm not responding that offer, that would be treason." Papa instead strongly DENIED any collusion with the Russians, and Halper returned from that meeting empty handed. So later on, trying to salvage the operation, an FBI agent tries to talk Papa into wearing a wire so he can get Mifsud on audio repeating the Clinton email offer. And Papa shuts this idea down immediately. They have set Mifsud up as a real spy to cover the tracks of being a fake spy?


Only after this push-pull op falls apart because Papa won't cooperate, we get the strange series of events in Israel with the $10,000. Can you imagine Agent A's frustration? They have it all set up, Mifsud got the "Russian" offer about Clinton's emails to Papa, Halper tried to extract the 'confession' from Papa that the offer had been made & he was considering it, and Papa wouldn't walk into the trap. So Papa gets roped into this weird deal where some guy just hands him $10,000. Which he's smart enough to ditch before coming back to the US. And he's intercepted at Dulles by none other than Agent A, looking for that $10k and surprised & mad he can't find it.

The question no one is asking is "How did Mifsud know about the emails?"

The emails were being investigated by the FBI as early as July 2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Cl...y_referral

Remember, these are not the Podesta emails that Wikileaks released and Crowdstrike claims Russian responsibility. These are the emails about weddings and yoga that were bleached and nobody has seen. It wouldn't have been a stretch for Mifsud to say Russia had them.

Those are the same emails on the server Clinton and the FBI claims was never compromised? There are starting to be just too many inconsistencies in the FBI’s claims during this period to ignore.