Former Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto accepted a $100m (£77m) bribe from drug cartel kingpin Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, a witness has testified.

Alex Cifuentes, who says he was a close associate of Guzmán for years, told a New York City courtroom that he had told authorities of the bribe in 2016.

Guzmán is accused of being behind the Sinaloa drug cartel, which prosecutors say was the largest US drug supplier.

Mr Peña Nieto served as the president of Mexico from 2012 to 2018.

Guzmán, 61, has been on trial in Brooklyn since November after he was extradited from Mexico to face charges of trafficking cocaine, heroin and other drugs as leader of what the US has called the world's largest drug cartel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46872414

Corruption in Mexico is news?

(01-16-2019 12:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Corruption in Mexico is news?

This. Plus, this is not the sort of witness whose testimony I would accept at face value.

(01-16-2019 12:56 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 12:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Corruption in Mexico is news?

This. Plus, this is not the sort of witness whose testimony I would accept at face value.

It is well known that politicians, law enforcement, judges take bribes there. And if you don't the Cartels will kill you, which is so many politicians are murdered there. There are thousands of murdered Mexicans buried in mass graves.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

(01-16-2019 05:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

You made that up. Never said anything about leaving it open. I prefer trump’s plans of noninterventionism.

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

Well one big problem is that they come here and kill Americans.

(01-16-2019 05:31 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

You made that up. Never said anything about leaving it open. I prefer trump’s plans of noninterventionism.

So it was some other UCF fan named jaredf29 who created this thread?
https://csnbbs.com/thread-867928.html

You don't want a wall. The experts on securing the border, you know....the Border Patrol, say they need the wall to help secure the border.

Quote:a $100m (£77m) bribe

Now THAT'S a bribe.

(01-16-2019 05:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:31 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 01:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mexico is a failed state and it's only a matter of time before we will be forced to deal with it.

Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

You made that up. Never said anything about leaving it open. I prefer trump’s plans of noninterventionism.

So it was some other UCF fan named jaredf29 who created this thread?
https://csnbbs.com/thread-867928.html

You don't want a wall. The experts on securing the border, you know....the Border Patrol, say they need the wall to help secure the border.

I can see how it’d be confusing for you.

“I believe that several hundred miles exist already. A wall is a stupid and simple minded idea. However, barriers can be placed so as to funnel people into areas where they can be swept up by BP.”
Post 21

(01-16-2019 05:59 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:31 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:20 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Whatever happened to self determination? I’m so tired of our citizens paying the price for some other damn country.

We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

You made that up. Never said anything about leaving it open. I prefer trump’s plans of noninterventionism.

So it was some other UCF fan named jaredf29 who created this thread?
https://csnbbs.com/thread-867928.html

You don't want a wall. The experts on securing the border, you know....the Border Patrol, say they need the wall to help secure the border.

I can see how it’d be confusing for you.

“I believe that several hundred miles exist already. A wall is a stupid and simple minded idea. However, barriers can be placed so as to funnel people into areas where they can be swept up by BP.”
Post 21

Border Patrol doesn't want "barriers". They want a wall. When all is said and done they'll get the wall. Either now or when either the cartels decide they are bad enough to try the US and bring their violence over here or when the terrorists read about this and realize that anything can be had in Mexico for the right price and they kill innocent Americans. When that happens, and it will, you can try to scrub all you want but the blood isn;t coming off your hands.

(01-16-2019 06:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:59 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:44 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:31 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 05:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  We'll have no choice because the violence will spill across the border.

You know the border I'm talking about...the one you want to leave wide ass open so anybody and everybody can just walk across.

You made that up. Never said anything about leaving it open. I prefer trump’s plans of noninterventionism.

So it was some other UCF fan named jaredf29 who created this thread?
https://csnbbs.com/thread-867928.html

You don't want a wall. The experts on securing the border, you know....the Border Patrol, say they need the wall to help secure the border.

I can see how it’d be confusing for you.

“I believe that several hundred miles exist already. A wall is a stupid and simple minded idea. However, barriers can be placed so as to funnel people into areas where they can be swept up by BP.”
Post 21

Border Patrol doesn't want "barriers". They want a wall. When all is said and done they'll get the wall. Either now or when either the cartels decide they are bad enough to try the US and bring their violence over here or when the terrorists read about this and realize that anything can be had in Mexico for the right price and they kill innocent Americans. When that happens, and it will, you can try to scrub all you want but the blood isn;t coming off your hands.

Nice pivot