(01-14-2019 03:55 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  If B12 did imploded with OK, Texas and OK St leaving, then this will be the first time traditional Power 5 (football) schools of current big tv money contract will be downgraded to G5/non power five conferences status and money. How is that going to work for them? Could the old theory of 4 sixteen teams power conferences be a reality sooner than we thought?

Four 16 team conferences total 64. There are now 65 P-5 schools (including ND) that include deadweights like Kansas.

IMO, 4 twelve school leagues where the superpowers reign without sharing revenue with the relative deadweights is eventually a viable option.

(01-15-2019 08:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 03:55 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  If B12 did imploded with OK, Texas and OK St leaving, then this will be the first time traditional Power 5 (football) schools of current big tv money contract will be downgraded to G5/non power five conferences status and money. How is that going to work for them? Could the old theory of 4 sixteen teams power conferences be a reality sooner than we thought?

Four 16 team conferences total 64. There are now 65 P-5 schools (including ND) that include deadweights like Kansas.

IMO, 4 twelve school leagues where the superpowers reign without sharing revenue with the relative deadweights is eventually a viable option.

The schools left out would litigate that to high heaven. It would not be worth it. If conferences merge in any form or fashion, I do not see any current P5 schools being left behind.

(01-15-2019 01:29 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 08:45 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 03:55 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  If B12 did imploded with OK, Texas and OK St leaving, then this will be the first time traditional Power 5 (football) schools of current big tv money contract will be downgraded to G5/non power five conferences status and money. How is that going to work for them? Could the old theory of 4 sixteen teams power conferences be a reality sooner than we thought?

Four 16 team conferences total 64. There are now 65 P-5 schools (including ND) that include deadweights like Kansas.

IMO, 4 twelve school leagues where the superpowers reign without sharing revenue with the relative deadweights is eventually a viable option.

The schools left out would litigate that to high heaven. It would not be worth it. If conferences merge in any form or fashion, I do not see any current P5 schools being left behind.

My guess is USF, Cincy, and UConn fans and administration thought they were safe once accepted into the club.

Litigation does not appear an option or it would have worked by now. Political pressure s the only action standing in the way, IMO.

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Mountain West rated top Group of 5 conference by @CFBPlayoff computer rankings, but AAC received more @CFBPlayoff revenue since UCF earned NY6 bowl bid worth $6M. Final @CFBPlayoff Group of 5 revenue:

AAC $24.8M
MWC $20.4M
Sun Belt $17.2M
C-USA $15.6M
MAC $14M

First season the MWC was better than the AAC, but that is only because of how bad the worst teams in our league were.

Not a true reflection of the leagues, really.

Wasn't that long ago that UCF was DII
The Dude said NDSU a probable with UND as a natural rival, Montana a stretch, but they do
Out draw Memphis in attendance

What

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of delusional pricks.

Means maybe those figures for our new deal are a tad inflated.

(01-14-2019 01:56 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:16 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Not a great look for the Big 12, but lots of factors involved:

* Fox was paying $20M each for the odd-numbered years - '19, '21 and '23. ESPN has the even-numbered years.
* Fox explored playing the game on Friday night, but Big 12 wants in on Saturday to make it easier for fan travel. Also issues with AT&T stadium availability that week.
* Fox has the Big 10 championship in prime time on Saturday night. SEC Championship is in the 2:30 window, and Fox and Big 12 didn't want to compete against SEC Championship.
* So Fox can either broadcast the Big 12 game in prime time on FS1, or play at 11:00 on Fox. Game not worth $20M with a 11:00 local time start.
* Fox tried to negotiate a lower rights fee with the Big 12 based on the 11:00 a.m. start, but the two sides couldn't agree on a lower number.
* ESPN will probably get the 3 odd-numbered year games, and flex the ACC/Big 12 Champ games between ABC and ESPN in different parts of the country on Saturday night.

You're kidding me. 20 mil for that thing? And they turned down Fred Smith's willingness to sponsor the whole thing? They deserve to fold.

Fold?

So instead of swimming in money they only get to roll in it. Only way they fold is if other conferences decide to expand.

(01-15-2019 04:49 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Brett McMurphy Verified account
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Mountain West rated top Group of 5 conference by @CFBPlayoff computer rankings, but AAC received more @CFBPlayoff revenue since UCF earned NY6 bowl bid worth $6M. Final @CFBPlayoff Group of 5 revenue:

AAC $24.8M
MWC $20.4M
Sun Belt $17.2M
C-USA $15.6M
MAC $14M

Would love to know what the P5 conference payouts were. The AAC's total bowl revenue equates to $2 million/team and that's before expenses were deducted for travel, etc.. Really a pittance.

(01-16-2019 11:12 AM)ddramone Wrote:  

(01-15-2019 04:49 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Brett McMurphy Verified account
@Brett_McMurphy
10 minutes ago
Mountain West rated top Group of 5 conference by @CFBPlayoff computer rankings, but AAC received more @CFBPlayoff revenue since UCF earned NY6 bowl bid worth $6M. Final @CFBPlayoff Group of 5 revenue:

AAC $24.8M
MWC $20.4M
Sun Belt $17.2M
C-USA $15.6M
MAC $14M

Would love to know what the P5 conference payouts were. The AAC's total bowl revenue equates to $2 million/team and that's before expenses were deducted for travel, etc.. Really a pittance.

https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2018/...youts.html

ACC - $34.8M
B1G - $79.5M
PAC - $65.1M
SEC - $92.8M
XII - $65.6M

Sugar Bowl (Texas v Georgia) payouts were $40M each, so that really boosted the SEC and the Big XII.

One theory is that we're going to see more money going to SEC & B10, while less goes to PAC and BXII (with ACC treading water). A further division of the haves and have nots - similar to what has happened between the P5 and the G5.

It does seem to be happening


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what does this look like per team, all conferences not the same size

“Each of the Southeastern Conference’s 14 members received an average of slightly over $43.1 million in revenue distribution from the league office during the 2017-18 fiscal year.”

What are we getting? 7M?

(01-17-2019 09:33 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  what does this look like per team, all conferences not the same size

Even within the Power 5 conferences, the divide is growing. The SEC and Big 10 are clearly head and shoulders above the ACC, Big 12 and Pac 12. The spread gets bigger with every yearly tv payout. 2024 will be very interesting.

(02-01-2019 10:55 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  What are we getting? 7M?

I haven't seen a breakdown for 2017-18 but below is info for 2016-17 I found:

"In 2016-17, South Florida received $8.877 million from the AAC, followed by UConn ($8.088 million), Cincinnati ($7.659 million), Houston ($5.410 million), Tulsa ($4.937 million) and Temple ($4.920 million). USF, UConn and Cincinnati are still receiving payments as part of the $70 million in exit fees for being former members of the Big East Conference, according to the Hartford Courant.

Memphis ($4.684 million), UCF ($4.042 million) East Carolina ($3.737 million), SMU ($3.701 million), Tulane ($3.587 million) and Navy ($2.623 million) account for the rest of the league’s revenue breakdown."