(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:33 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:20 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:11 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Memphis has wins over two teams likely in the dance, Yale and SDSU. They need a couple more big wins and no bad losses to have a chance.

SMU has a bad loss and a good win as Georgetown continues to look strong and just got some hurt players back. Getting a couple good wins and a 14-4 or better record with no bad losses and they will be squarely on the bubble.

WSU is the least likely but an incredible run and built in excuse of 11 new scholarship players gives them a sliver of hope.

Wins over teams who are getting automatic bids don’t count for much. Yale has to win its league to make it, SDSU has to win its conference tourney.

Smu did nothing besides the George Town won. They need to win the conference tourney or damn near sweep Cincy, Houston and UCF



I’d better every day I have that Memphis nor SMU get auto bids.


I think your miss remembering how little respect the committee has for the league. We always end up having a team or two left out even though they have the resume.




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I dont speak Klingon.

Lol I was multi tasking.

I’d bet everything I have that SMU & Memphis don’t get auto bids.




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I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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(01-13-2019 08:20 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:11 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 07:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 07:16 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Temple doesn't need to kick ass, they just avoid a couple bad losses and they are fine.

Of the four, only UCF looks to be an issue. They have a bad loss and no good wins ooc. Slip ups in conference will get them in trouble but they have been perhaps the most consistent team so I don't see that happening.

Five will be tougher. Tulsa was in decent position but is sucking eggs right now. UConn has the best win of those left. Memphis, SMU, and WSU in order of likelyhood will need a lot of work and key wins with no bad losses. USF is probably looking at a ceiling of the NIT. ECU needs a hell of a conference run, some luck, and probably a couple more top level victories to sniff the NIT. Tulane is right out.

NIT is the ceiling for these teams as well, barring a crazy run in the AACT

Memphis has wins over two teams likely in the dance, Yale and SDSU. They need a couple more big wins and no bad losses to have a chance.

SMU has a bad loss and a good win as Georgetown continues to look strong and just got some hurt players back. Getting a couple good wins and a 14-4 or better record with no bad losses and they will be squarely on the bubble.

WSU is the least likely but an incredible run and built in excuse of 11 new scholarship players gives them a sliver of hope.

Wins over teams who are getting automatic bids don’t count for much. Yale has to win its league to make it, SDSU has to win its conference tourney.

Smu did nothing besides the George Town won. They need to win the conference tourney or damn near sweep Cincy, Houston and UCF



I’d better every day I have that Memphis nor SMU get auto bids.


I think your miss remembering how little respect the committee has for the league. We always end up having a team or two left out even though they have the resume.




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I dont speak Klingon.

This thread will not help our academic standing. #TrumpsAmerica

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:33 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:20 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:11 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Wins over teams who are getting automatic bids don’t count for much. Yale has to win its league to make it, SDSU has to win its conference tourney.

Smu did nothing besides the George Town won. They need to win the conference tourney or damn near sweep Cincy, Houston and UCF



I’d better every day I have that Memphis nor SMU get auto bids.


I think your miss remembering how little respect the committee has for the league. We always end up having a team or two left out even though they have the resume.




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I dont speak Klingon.

Lol I was multi tasking.

I’d bet everything I have that SMU & Memphis don’t get auto bids.




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I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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Oh? Those aren't NET rankings? Which ones are you using?



NET is all that counts. Winning at home against Cincy or UCF is likely a tier 1, as are their road games against UCF, Cincy, Temple, and possibly UConn. That's 6 opportunities go three and three win out and they will have one or two more opportunities in the tourney, which I believe will count as a neutral location even though it isn't. Add in two wins over other NCAA teams and you have a solid resume with a 14-4 conference record.

Is that probable? No, not even likely, but it's still possible. WSU has a similar path but needs more help from some of their ooc.

UConn could probably get in with a 13-5 type conference record and a good conference tourney run. The Syracuse win is helpful, but they still need key wins and to avoid bad losses.

SMU is in a middle area between Memphis and Wichita, so they need a 13-5/14-4 record and a some help from Georgetown. Their ooc schedule will cost them.

Tulsa would need to have SMU perform well and pull their collective heads out of their butts,, rebound and finish 12-6 or better with a good win or two and no bad losses.

Can one of these teams pull that off? I don't know but I don't feel all that good betting on any of then to succeed.

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:33 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:20 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:11 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Wins over teams who are getting automatic bids don’t count for much. Yale has to win its league to make it, SDSU has to win its conference tourney.

Smu did nothing besides the George Town won. They need to win the conference tourney or damn near sweep Cincy, Houston and UCF



I’d better every day I have that Memphis nor SMU get auto bids.


I think your miss remembering how little respect the committee has for the league. We always end up having a team or two left out even though they have the resume.




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I dont speak Klingon.

Lol I was multi tasking.

I’d bet everything I have that SMU & Memphis don’t get auto bids.




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I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

(01-14-2019 01:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:33 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:20 PM)Tigergary Wrote:  ?
I dont speak Klingon.

Lol I was multi tasking.

I’d bet everything I have that SMU & Memphis don’t get auto bids.




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I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

Not if yall could've held on against Tech. That could of been a season changing win.

(01-14-2019 02:14 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 08:33 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Lol I was multi tasking.

I’d bet everything I have that SMU & Memphis don’t get auto bids.




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I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

Not if yall could've held on against Tech. That could of been a season changing win.

My point is, the great majority of Memphis fans didn't expect we would make the NIT, much less the NCAA, before the season started. Either is gravy.

And if you look at our remaining schedule, and the KP predictions, that Tech game wouldn't have made a hill of beans difference, either way.

Next year will be higher expectations.

Personally, my only expectation this year is we will finish higher than 8th.

(01-14-2019 03:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:14 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

Not if yall could've held on against Tech. That could of been a season changing win.

My point is, the great majority of Memphis fans didn't expect we would make the NIT, much less the NCAA, before the season started. Either is gravy.

And if you look at our remaining schedule, and the KP predictions, that Tech game wouldn't have made a hill of beans difference, either way.

Next year will be higher expectations.

Personally, my only expectation this year is we will finish higher than 8th.

For sure. I think anyone who's actually following Memphis hoops knows that this first year is just about establishing a culture. The real expectations start next year, with the arrival of Wiseman.

All I meant was that if yall could've won that game it not only would've provided yall a great non-conf win but might've acted as a major confidence booster going forward. Nevertheless, I wouldn't completely write off this season. 3-1 right now in conference, anything can happen. Plus the AACT is in Memphis, so thats certainly a plus for yall.

(01-14-2019 03:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:14 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 09:15 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  I too was like what???

That's a myth the committee has shorted us. We haven't got great seeding but nobody who has had a resume NCAA capable hasn't made it in since we started. That SMU team who got left out and was ranked just didn't have the type of wins necessary to get in.

I don't think SMU has the bodies to make a autobid run if they don't have a bye, maybe not even if they do have the bye for the conference tourney.

Memphis is a different animal. Home court is proving a huge deal, Memphis will be a threat and is deep enough to make the run. Also those teams who make a tournament and dominated their conference are going to count for important wins.

Finally you seem a bit out of touch with current norm in college basketball. The Ivy league has a tourney for its autobid and has for a couple years.

Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

Not if yall could've held on against Tech. That could of been a season changing win.

My point is, the great majority of Memphis fans didn't expect we would make the NIT, much less the NCAA, before the season started. Either is gravy.

And if you look at our remaining schedule, and the KP predictions, that Tech game wouldn't have made a hill of beans difference, either way.

Next year will be higher expectations.

Personally, my only expectation this year is we will finish higher than 8th.

Yeppers. I gather there's alot of loud-mouth message board banter that goes on around I don't particularly
pay any attention to that leads others to think we're self-proclaimed National Champions since Penny was hired, lol.

NIT post-season competition for Memphis was my hope...not necessarily an expectation. But NCAA appearance was always realistically a pipe dream this season.

I 'think' reasonable WSU and UCONN fans probably feel the same way...this season is about pouring a new foundation for the future. We don't have $30-$40M conference payouts to just push the Nintendo 'Reset' button, lol. 2019 will be much funner.

For now, it looks like Houston's carrying the flag, and 'Festivus for the Restivus' trying to rebuild.

(01-13-2019 06:59 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Finishing in the top half of the league won't matter once we start putting 7 teams in the tourney lol

I don't see any reason why the league can't put 5 or 6 in the tournament next year. Just need to get UCONN and Memphis back to normal.

Yea, I dont think the 99% of sane Memphis fans had any expectations of making the NCAA tourney before the season. Hell we were a 150+ KenPom team last year with basically the same team with a few 100+ ranked freshmen coming in. So far this season we've won the games we shouldve won and lost the games we shouldve lost. We are a borderline 100-ish KenPom team this season(The NET having us in the 70s proves how awful that metric truly is). Its an on the court improvement from last year.

What our goals should be right now for this season:

a first round bye in the AACT(difficult but not impossible)
win at least one game we shouldnt
see improvement of the freshmen.

There is no way for the Tigers to reach the NCAA Tourney without winning the AAC Tourney. Fortunately, the Tigers play well at home and the AAC Tourney is held in Memphis.

(01-14-2019 09:44 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  There is no way for the Tigers to reach the NCAA Tourney without winning the AAC Tourney. Fortunately, the Tigers play well at home and the AAC Tourney is held in Memphis.

Technically this is incorrect. Realistically it is correct.

(01-14-2019 04:36 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 03:59 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 02:14 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(01-14-2019 01:50 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-13-2019 10:43 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  Lol. My point stands. Yale is an auto bid of nothing.

Memphis isn’t making the tourney.


Their best chance at a season defining win was @houston and they lost.

Even if they won every home game they have left, it would leave with zero tier 1 wins still.



This isn’t the old big east. This is the AAC lol

Memphis only gets in if they win the tourney.




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That was true before the season started, lol.

Not if yall could've held on against Tech. That could of been a season changing win.

My point is, the great majority of Memphis fans didn't expect we would make the NIT, much less the NCAA, before the season started. Either is gravy.

And if you look at our remaining schedule, and the KP predictions, that Tech game wouldn't have made a hill of beans difference, either way.

Next year will be higher expectations.

Personally, my only expectation this year is we will finish higher than 8th.

For sure. I think anyone who's actually following Memphis hoops knows that this first year is just about establishing a culture. The real expectations start next year, with the arrival of Wiseman.

All I meant was that if yall could've won that game it not only would've provided yall a great non-conf win but might've acted as a major confidence booster going forward. Nevertheless, I wouldn't completely write off this season. 3-1 right now in conference, anything can happen. Plus the AACT is in Memphis, so thats certainly a plus for yall.

Well, winning the tourney is what we're hanging our hat on for the NCAAT, anyway.

As for 3-1, we struggled with both ECU and Tulane. The schedule gets tougher now: SMU, at Temple, UCF, at Tulsa, at USF, UC, UConn.

We could lose all 7 of those. I think our best possible outcome is 4-3, but that's a stretch in my mind. We just get killed on the boards, which hurts our running game, and we aren't good enough, otherwise.

I watched the east game Friday night. Wiseman & dandridge would far and away be our 2 best bigs right now. They are going to fix a lot of our rebounding problems when they get on campus. These last few games have shown me how far down we were under Tubby and I can’t imagine how bad it would be this season (no Lomax,Harris or Jones) and next year might’ve been a D2 level team had they not pulled the plug on him.