(01-27-2019 09:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The far left is a lot of heat and light. Kamala is going to be the front runner for a while. I'll let the mainstream African American community sort out the BLM folks. I've seen enough Democratic Primaries to see how that turns out.
Right now its Kamala and Warren that are out front. If Beto and Klobachar get in, they'll probably be in the top four as well.
Hickenlooper, Inslee, Brown and Biden have a path, but its going to take some luck and probably Beto taking a pass. Gillibrand might get there.
Bernie and Trumpsi have no shot at all.

Nobody on that list that I could even consider voting for.

I take that back a bit. If Hickenlooper ran as VP on a ticket with Kasich, as has been rumored, I'd consider them.

But otherwise, if that's the field then I'll register democrat for the primary and write in Hillary.

If one of them wins the presidency, well then, I can't imagine I would be more depressed than I was when Obama won. And we survived that.

(01-27-2019 09:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 09:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The far left is a lot of heat and light. Kamala is going to be the front runner for a while. I'll let the mainstream African American community sort out the BLM folks. I've seen enough Democratic Primaries to see how that turns out.
Right now its Kamala and Warren that are out front. If Beto and Klobachar get in, they'll probably be in the top four as well.
Hickenlooper, Inslee, Brown and Biden have a path, but its going to take some luck and probably Beto taking a pass. Gillibrand might get there.
Bernie and Trumpsi have no shot at all.

Nobody on that list that I could even consider voting for.

I take that back a bit. If Hickenlooper ran as VP on a ticket with Kasich, as has been rumored, I'd consider them.

But otherwise, if that's the field then I'll register democrat for the primary and write in Hillary.

If one of them wins the presidency, well then, I can't imagine I would be more depressed than I was when Obama won. And we survived that.

Participation by non-Democratic voters isn't going to be effective in the Democratic Party this time around. Especially not in Montgomery County Texas (the most Trumpian County in the nation). I would imagine that there would be more action in the Republican Primary up there as the far, far, far, far, right all try to out right wing Cecil Bell in a truly sickening display of right wing one upmanship.

So after you throw away your vote in the Democratic Primary for President, are you even going to have any candidates to vote for in the other races up there? Why not just vote against Trump in the Republican Primary and then vote for the less crazy Republican in the primary? If you don't like Trump, that seems like the smarter move, especially if you don't have anyone to vote for in the Democratic primary for President.

If Beto runs, he'll win Texas. If he doesn't, it will probably be a fight between Castro, Harris, Warren and one of Klobachar/Brown/Hickenlooper/Inslee/Gillibrand

This is the worst political speech I've ever heard. She just doesn't have it.

(01-27-2019 09:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Participation by non-Democratic voters isn't going to be effective in the Democratic Party this time around. Especially not in Montgomery County Texas (the most Trumpian County in the nation). I would imagine that there would be more action in the Republican Primary up there as the far, far, far, far, right all try to out right wing Cecil Bell in a truly sickening display of right wing one upmanship.
So after you throw away your vote in the Democratic Primary for President, are you even going to have any candidates to vote for in the other races up there? Why not just vote against Trump in the Republican Primary and then vote for the less crazy Republican in the primary? If you don't like Trump, that seems like the smarter move, especially if you don't have anyone to vote for in the Democratic primary for President.

If there were anything I could do that would have a material impact on any other election, then your advice might make some sense. But there's not. There's no more helpless feeling on election day than to have nobody worth voting for. Usually, if you have nobody to vote for, at least you have somebody to vote against. It's looking like the only way to that in 2020 will be to do what I am doing.

Yeah I'm punting local elections, But if I can't have any impact, then the best thing is the satisfaction of knowing that I voted against every one of those worthless a-holes. And having my two-doors-down neighbor, the democrat poll watcher, tell me how happy she is to know that there is another democrat in our subdivision.

(01-27-2019 09:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  This is the worst political speech I've ever heard. She just doesn't have it.

Wait, I thought dems were all about separation of church and state? Is a leftist actually trying to quote scripture?

(01-27-2019 09:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  This is the worst political speech I've ever heard. She just doesn't have it.

How did she get elected Senator?

She looks like she was doing an acting job of what a bad speaker would do.

She's got a persona that might work for mayor, but not for president.

(01-27-2019 09:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 09:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Participation by non-Democratic voters isn't going to be effective in the Democratic Party this time around. Especially not in Montgomery County Texas (the most Trumpian County in the nation). I would imagine that there would be more action in the Republican Primary up there as the far, far, far, far, right all try to out right wing Cecil Bell in a truly sickening display of right wing one upmanship.
So after you throw away your vote in the Democratic Primary for President, are you even going to have any candidates to vote for in the other races up there? Why not just vote against Trump in the Republican Primary and then vote for the less crazy Republican in the primary? If you don't like Trump, that seems like the smarter move, especially if you don't have anyone to vote for in the Democratic primary for President.

If there were anything I could do that would have a material impact on any other election, then your advice might make some sense. But there's not. There's no more helpless feeling on election day than to have nobody worth voting for. Usually, if you have nobody to vote for, at least you have somebody to vote against. It's looking like the only way to that in 2020 will be to do what I am doing.

Yeah I'm punting local elections, But if I can't have any impact, then the best thing is the satisfaction of knowing that I voted against every one of those worthless a-holes. And having my two-doors-down neighbor, the democrat poll watcher, tell me how happy she is to know that there is another democrat in our subdivision.

Good thing she doesn't know how you vote in general elections....LOL. I'd let her pretend. Because being a Democratic election judge in Montgomery County has to be a miserable job.

(01-27-2019 11:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Good thing she doesn't know how you vote in general elections....LOL. I'd let her pretend. Because being a Democratic election judge in Montgomery County has to be a miserable job.

That's kind of been my thinking. She may have figured me out when she put a "Beto" sign in her yard and I didn't.

(01-16-2019 11:48 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(01-16-2019 11:37 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Jeb!

I miss Jeb. He had enough energy.

(01-27-2019 10:10 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 09:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  This is the worst political speech I've ever heard. She just doesn't have it.

Wait, I thought dems were all about separation of church and state? Is a leftist actually trying to quote scripture?

Not the black Dems. Church is state.

(01-27-2019 10:10 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 09:43 PM)Kronke Wrote:  This is the worst political speech I've ever heard. She just doesn't have it.

Wait, I thought dems were all about separation of church and state? Is a leftist actually trying to quote scripture?

To the leftists the state is their church.