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Kept the ship afloat? WT_?
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(01-12-2019 02:22 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Kept the ship afloat? WT_?

I guess it depends on what is important to each fan, if winning bowl games is important, obviously its the Titanic
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(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 01:48 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  MaddDawg, Carey leaving has to have you depressed.
For years, you would find a way to spin negativity his way, no matter the situation. What will you do now that he is gone? Were will all the focus of gloom and doom go to now? and what will you talk about?

I know this is a tough time for people that loved Carey more than NIU football itself, but JK, don't worry, NIU football will move on without him. The program is bigger than one person

Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

STOP. Just stop. He’s gone. Let it go. Move on. YOU ARE OBSESSED with Rod Carey, it’s kinda creepy.
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(01-12-2019 01:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 01:11 PM)HW58 Wrote:  MD, your like a dog with a bone. Either let it go or get some help. Clearly Myers thought a lot of the man and he knew him way better than you did.

I was talking about the former players comment in his post. It was not positive. Hw58 why are you obsessed with making sure no one criticizes Carey? Seems a little odd. He took shots at NIU upon leaving

Let it go and move on. This isn’t healthy. Your opinion of taking shots fits your agenda. Others didn’t see it that way. We are trying to hire a great coach so let’s move on to the search.

I think that's good advice for Carey. Focus on Temple , dont punch down at NIU

One player's story very positive but your insistence on taking one sentence from another player as a negative and imply that it speaks for the entire team!
Why do you continue to do this?
Considering what he was given to work with during his tenure at NIU I think he did a fine job.
Give it up with the negative attitude. Not a single person will ever be able to please everyone...not even Jesus...so for his sake GIVE IT UP!!!!!
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Carey will be fired in 2-3 years.the temple peeps keep talking about Fran brown? Good assistants dont wait around. If that brown is still on staff in 2 years they'll can carey. No way he wins there.
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(01-12-2019 02:59 PM)JoeNovak Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 01:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I know this is a tough time for people that loved Carey more than NIU football itself, but JK, don't worry, NIU football will move on without him. The program is bigger than one person

Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

STOP. Just stop. He’s gone. Let it go. Move on. YOU ARE OBSESSED with Rod Carey, it’s kinda creepy.

Not as creepy as your obsession with every post I make
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(01-12-2019 05:18 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:59 PM)JoeNovak Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:56 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

STOP. Just stop. He’s gone. Let it go. Move on. YOU ARE OBSESSED with Rod Carey, it’s kinda creepy.

Not as creepy as your obsession with every post I make

It's not really that creepy. We are all just disturbed over your obsession with Rod Carey...who are you? The president of Selena's fan club?
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Was in a meeting all afternoon for work and missed all the fun. MD, don't want you to think I threw a haymaker then ducked for cover. Bottom line: I'm not obsessed with making sure no one criticizes Carey. He definitely deserved criticism from time to time, and I've criticized him myself. However, your criticism/dislike for the man borders on unhealthy hatred and it gets really old listening to it all the time. He's not a mass murderer for heaven's sake, he's a football coach. He's moved on. How 'bout you do the same?

On another note, flew into Lafayette, LA this morning for the meeting. Walk in and they started talking about their big member meeting next fall. First thing--first thing--anyone says is "There's an LSU game that Saturday. Are we going to plan a watch party?" Total agreement around the table. I tell you it's a different football universe down here in SEC country. Was kind of refreshing actually.
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Im done with this whole Carey thing, follow the man to Temple, here is their message board for you guys to drool over https://temple.forums.rivals.com/forums/...otball.10/
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(01-12-2019 07:06 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Im done with this whole Carey thing, follow the man to Temple, here is their message board for you guys to drool over https://temple.forums.rivals.com/forums/...otball.10/

You're the only person drooling over him...the fact that you found a source with more Carey material and tracking proves the point
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(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:56 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:48 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  MaddDawg, Carey leaving has to have you depressed.
For years, you would find a way to spin negativity his way, no matter the situation. What will you do now that he is gone? Were will all the focus of gloom and doom go to now? and what will you talk about?

I know this is a tough time for people that loved Carey more than NIU football itself, but JK, don't worry, NIU football will move on without him. The program is bigger than one person

Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.
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(01-12-2019 09:05 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:56 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 01:49 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I know this is a tough time for people that loved Carey more than NIU football itself, but JK, don't worry, NIU football will move on without him. The program is bigger than one person

Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.

Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program
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(01-12-2019 09:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 09:05 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 01:56 PM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  Did not love Carey. I just think he was a good (not necessarily great) coach. And apparently I was not the only one, as big university aside from NIU is betting millions on it.

I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.

Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program

Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
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(01-12-2019 09:22 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 02:14 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  I agree with this guy. We won some games and a few MAC championships and avoided shame on the scale of Baylor and Ohio State. The kids graduated and we prepared them for a better life.

I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.

Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program

Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
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(01-12-2019 09:30 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 02:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I see Carey the same as Kill, he kept the ship afloat, did not advance the program in any way though. The demise of the offense under Carey though is just something that looms large. Its going to hurt this program for at least a few more years until a course correction occurs

Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.

Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program

Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
I don’t forget the circumstances of that season. Novak did an interview recently with Brad Hoey and talked much about it. Best thing that came out of that season was that they didn’t burn Harnish’s redshirt. Don’t minimize what skill did though. No championship but he did set us up to reach the next level. Give credit when it’s due. I know that doesn’t fit your M O but come on. Call it like it is not like you want it to be.
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(01-12-2019 10:15 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 09:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(01-12-2019 09:05 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  Here is another nonsense comment. First off, Kill inherited a 2-10 team and got into a bowl immediately. Was in the MAC championship in year 3. Doeren won with his players.

Second, Kill left under disappointing circumstances. He has said he regrets how tang went down. I liked him as a person and coach but that wasn’t a good example to set. Carey on the other hand met with the team. Following the timeline, I believe he came back to meet with with the team before going back out to Philly. Classy move if that’s how it went down. As far as Carey goes as coach, he didn’t tank the program for Pete’s sake. We’re not talking Sadler here. He won. Plain and simple. 4 wins vs Big Ten. How many did program have before him? Nonsense if you didn’t take pride in those wins. 4 MAC west titles. Could things have been better, sure. My biggest disappointment was not making it to a second bcs game. However, I’m sure Carey took that harder than any of us. Give the dude a break and move on. We will soon have a new coach to welcome. Hopefully you can give him a chance.

Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program

Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
I don’t forget the circumstances of that season. Novak did an interview recently with Brad Hoey and talked much about it. Best thing that came out of that season was that they didn’t burn Harnish’s redshirt. Don’t minimize what skill did though. No championship but he did set us up to reach the next level. Give credit when it’s due. I know that doesn’t fit your M O but come on. Call it like it is not like you want it to be.

Getting all those injured back was a ready made draft class. It was a good spot to be in. Kill just wasnt a coach that will win you championships. My biggest memory of him will be crushing the Rockets in Huskie Stadium
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(01-12-2019 09:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Hmmm did you read what I said. I said Carey kept things afloat. He didnt allow the program to tank but he didnt elevate the program

Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
I don’t forget the circumstances of that season. Novak did an interview recently with Brad Hoey and talked much about it. Best thing that came out of that season was that they didn’t burn Harnish’s redshirt. Don’t minimize what skill did though. No championship but he did set us up to reach the next level. Give credit when it’s due. I know that doesn’t fit your M O but come on. Call it like it is not like you want it to be.

Getting all those injured back was a ready made draft class. It was a good spot to be in. Kill just wasnt a coach that will win you championships. My biggest memory of him will be crushing the Rockets in Huskie Stadium

I’ll give you that. He didn’t have a signature win here. Perhaps you’re correct that he couldn’t win a championship. He never won a bowl game here or at Minnesota. Despite success at SIU I don’t think he won any playoff games. I think he developed teams to get to the next level but never got them there. I still say he deserved credit for some of Doeren’s success. Kill did some things I disagreed with too. Starting Grady over Harnish was one. However if you ask Harnish, he defends him and says maybe that motivated Harnish to get to the next level as a player. We will have to disagree ultimately. My only point is I feel you go too far in your negativelity and criticism. Carey wasn’t a bad person, family man, he did a lot of good things ( some bad as well) and I don’t think he deserved all the hate he endured.
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(01-12-2019 11:04 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 09:22 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  Yes but you equated him to Kill who definitely elevated the program. Kill did improve us.
People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
I don’t forget the circumstances of that season. Novak did an interview recently with Brad Hoey and talked much about it. Best thing that came out of that season was that they didn’t burn Harnish’s redshirt. Don’t minimize what skill did though. No championship but he did set us up to reach the next level. Give credit when it’s due. I know that doesn’t fit your M O but come on. Call it like it is not like you want it to be.

Getting all those injured back was a ready made draft class. It was a good spot to be in. Kill just wasnt a coach that will win you championships. My biggest memory of him will be crushing the Rockets in Huskie Stadium

I’ll give you that. He didn’t have a signature win here. Perhaps you’re correct that he couldn’t win a championship. He never won a bowl game here or at Minnesota. Despite success at SIU I don’t think he won any playoff games. I think he developed teams to get to the next level but never got them there. I still say he deserved credit for some of Doeren’s success. Kill did some things I disagreed with too. Starting Grady over Harnish was one. However if you ask Harnish, he defends him and says maybe that motivated Harnish to get to the next level as a player. We will have to disagree ultimately. My only point is I feel you go too far in your negativelity and criticism. Carey wasn’t a bad person, family man, he did a lot of good things ( some bad as well) and I don’t think he deserved all the hate he endured.

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(01-12-2019 11:17 PM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
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(01-12-2019 09:30 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  People seriously forget the circumstances of that team. Literally more than half of starters were injured during that 2-10 year. Kill slid into a good situation. The program was not deteriorating, there were massive injuries much like Ball State went through recently. Kill never won a championship
I don’t forget the circumstances of that season. Novak did an interview recently with Brad Hoey and talked much about it. Best thing that came out of that season was that they didn’t burn Harnish’s redshirt. Don’t minimize what skill did though. No championship but he did set us up to reach the next level. Give credit when it’s due. I know that doesn’t fit your M O but come on. Call it like it is not like you want it to be.

Getting all those injured back was a ready made draft class. It was a good spot to be in. Kill just wasnt a coach that will win you championships. My biggest memory of him will be crushing the Rockets in Huskie Stadium

I’ll give you that. He didn’t have a signature win here. Perhaps you’re correct that he couldn’t win a championship. He never won a bowl game here or at Minnesota. Despite success at SIU I don’t think he won any playoff games. I think he developed teams to get to the next level but never got them there. I still say he deserved credit for some of Doeren’s success. Kill did some things I disagreed with too. Starting Grady over Harnish was one. However if you ask Harnish, he defends him and says maybe that motivated Harnish to get to the next level as a player. We will have to disagree ultimately. My only point is I feel you go too far in your negativelity and criticism. Carey wasn’t a bad person, family man, he did a lot of good things ( some bad as well) and I don’t think he deserved all the hate he endured.

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Its nothing to disagree about, we both agree that Kill was not a championship level coach, but he did do some good things.
01-12-2019 11:27 PM
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I liked Kill as well.... a lot
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