(01-12-2019 07:52 AM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 02:12 AM)Stammers Wrote:  He will definitely get invited for a tryout and will have 3 or 4 games to impress someone. If he didn't stand out above Coxie or Taylor, how can he reasonably be expected to make an NFL roster? It seems his only shot will be to be so good at returning kicks, that someone keeps him on the roster only for that. If he was running routes and was getting wide open, he would have gotten a lot more touches.

Yes sir. When you gain an inch, you go for the yard. Any small business owner like yourself understands this concept.

He's just capatilizing on his superior kick return product... trying to get paid while he can. Smart kid.

He is more than a kick returner

Good running back... To small for an every down back but a good third down back and good slot receiver. If he posts a time below 4.5 he will get drafted

Good Pollard. Thank you and go get a paycheck.

I will miss his electrifying kick off returns. I wish him well and look forward to seeing "Memphis" listed when he is introduced.

(01-11-2019 11:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 11:19 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:18 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:10 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:00 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  There is no way in hell Henderson should come back or any way he can improve his stock....

That said, I agree with that racing car fella that he will be a 2nd round pick at best (and I actually think he will be drafted in the 2nd round, not later than that).

And there is nothing wrong with that. RB's are a dime a dozen and for one to be drafted in the 1st round they usually need to be super fast and super big (Adrian Peterson, Ricky Williams, etc)

Anytime you say you agree with racecar, you are almost always doomed.

It isn't that he said that he would be a second round, because I have seen him predicted as high as the 34th pick... it's the other things he post that makes an almost reasonable post look totally uninformed.

34th pick is 2nd round

What is your argument with that?

Racecar believes that no one should leave early unless he’s a 1st rd pick. He fail to understand that most good RBs are selected in 2nd and 3rd rd and that very few if any RBs are selected in the 1st. We’ve told him
This but he still sticks to his talking points. I’ll add that Henderson is a very good at catching the ball is a huge plus for him considering that’s the way the league is looking for —- catching RBs

Actually, I do not believe that players should leave early PERIOD unless it is as they used to say a hardship issue. I believe that a person should always live up to agreements they make.

When coaches leave early they are forced to buy themselves out of their agreement. If a school fires a coach they are required to buy the coach's contract.

Sports contracts are not worth the paper they are written these days. A person's word is worth even less.

He did fulfill his agreement he came to Memphis and graduated with his degree.

He has his degree. Now go live your life, Pollard.

(01-11-2019 11:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 11:19 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:18 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:10 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:00 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  There is no way in hell Henderson should come back or any way he can improve his stock....

That said, I agree with that racing car fella that he will be a 2nd round pick at best (and I actually think he will be drafted in the 2nd round, not later than that).

And there is nothing wrong with that. RB's are a dime a dozen and for one to be drafted in the 1st round they usually need to be super fast and super big (Adrian Peterson, Ricky Williams, etc)

Anytime you say you agree with racecar, you are almost always doomed.

It isn't that he said that he would be a second round, because I have seen him predicted as high as the 34th pick... it's the other things he post that makes an almost reasonable post look totally uninformed.

34th pick is 2nd round

What is your argument with that?

Racecar believes that no one should leave early unless he’s a 1st rd pick. He fail to understand that most good RBs are selected in 2nd and 3rd rd and that very few if any RBs are selected in the 1st. We’ve told him
This but he still sticks to his talking points. I’ll add that Henderson is a very good at catching the ball is a huge plus for him considering that’s the way the league is looking for —- catching RBs

Actually, I do not believe that players should leave early PERIOD unless it is as they used to say a hardship issue. I believe that a person should always live up to agreements they make.

When coaches leave early they are forced to buy themselves out of their agreement. If a school fires a coach they are required to buy the coach's contract.

Sports contracts are not worth the paper they are written these days. A person's word is worth even less.

How many years is an athletic scholarship.

Look that up then be quiet

(01-11-2019 11:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 11:19 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:18 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:10 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:00 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  There is no way in hell Henderson should come back or any way he can improve his stock....

That said, I agree with that racing car fella that he will be a 2nd round pick at best (and I actually think he will be drafted in the 2nd round, not later than that).

And there is nothing wrong with that. RB's are a dime a dozen and for one to be drafted in the 1st round they usually need to be super fast and super big (Adrian Peterson, Ricky Williams, etc)

Anytime you say you agree with racecar, you are almost always doomed.

It isn't that he said that he would be a second round, because I have seen him predicted as high as the 34th pick... it's the other things he post that makes an almost reasonable post look totally uninformed.

34th pick is 2nd round

What is your argument with that?

Racecar believes that no one should leave early unless he’s a 1st rd pick. He fail to understand that most good RBs are selected in 2nd and 3rd rd and that very few if any RBs are selected in the 1st. We’ve told him
This but he still sticks to his talking points. I’ll add that Henderson is a very good at catching the ball is a huge plus for him considering that’s the way the league is looking for —- catching RBs

Actually, I do not believe that players should leave early PERIOD unless it is as they used to say a hardship issue. I believe that a person should always live up to agreements they make.

When coaches leave early they are forced to buy themselves out of their agreement. If a school fires a coach they are required to buy the coach's contract.

Sports contracts are not worth the paper they are written these days. A person's word is worth even less.

You do realize that athletic scholarships are annually renewable for the players, don't you? Coaches can "encourage" players to leave by revoking their scholarship at the end of each year.

That's a bad move there. He could've benefited one more year of putting on more weight and playing the rb position. He would have been more of the focal point of the offense next year. I predict he won't get drafted and won't make a team because he doesn't have a true position. I hope I'm wrong and goodluck to him.

Next

First, nothing but the best wishes for him. He has been great for the Tigers and per other posts has graduated. I really cannot ask for more. With that being said I've always felt that to be a professional at any sport you must have at least one or two elite skills (pro-level) that the pros value. It seems with the new kickoff rules in the NFL that the return position is being devalued but there may be a few teams that still value. I have no idea regarding his speed so that will be interesting to see. I know he has a nose for the end zone but don't think he got a ton of targets or traditional RB carries this year so I really don't how effective he is at those positions. It could be that he is superb but with DH and PT as the primary backs not much opportunity. At the WR position perhaps our schemes or the ability of our QB diminished his opportunities. Best Wishes

(01-12-2019 04:35 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Best of luck, TP. Surprise us all!
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Even so, if he can make a roster and get paid for a couple of years, that's a pretty good starting point for a young man.

Selfishly I hate to see a proven highly productive player leave early, but if he has an idea that he won't used in the offense nearly as much next year, he pretty much has to go now at his peak.

(01-11-2019 11:51 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 11:19 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:18 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:10 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 10:00 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  There is no way in hell Henderson should come back or any way he can improve his stock....

That said, I agree with that racing car fella that he will be a 2nd round pick at best (and I actually think he will be drafted in the 2nd round, not later than that).

And there is nothing wrong with that. RB's are a dime a dozen and for one to be drafted in the 1st round they usually need to be super fast and super big (Adrian Peterson, Ricky Williams, etc)

Anytime you say you agree with racecar, you are almost always doomed.

It isn't that he said that he would be a second round, because I have seen him predicted as high as the 34th pick... it's the other things he post that makes an almost reasonable post look totally uninformed.

34th pick is 2nd round

What is your argument with that?

Racecar believes that no one should leave early unless he’s a 1st rd pick. He fail to understand that most good RBs are selected in 2nd and 3rd rd and that very few if any RBs are selected in the 1st. We’ve told him
This but he still sticks to his talking points. I’ll add that Henderson is a very good at catching the ball is a huge plus for him considering that’s the way the league is looking for —- catching RBs

Actually, I do not believe that players should leave early PERIOD unless it is as they used to say a hardship issue. I believe that a person should always live up to agreements they make.

When coaches leave early they are forced to buy themselves out of their agreement. If a school fires a coach they are required to buy the coach's contract.

Sports contracts are not worth the paper they are written these days. A person's word is worth even less.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this board.

Okay, not the dumbest, but it's way up the list.

Actually, I do not believe that players should leave early PERIOD unless it is as they used to say a hardship issue. I believe that a person should always live up to agreements they make.

When coaches leave early they are forced to buy themselves out of their agreement. If a school fires a coach they are required to buy the coach's contract.

Sports contracts are not worth the paper they are written these days. A person's word is worth even less.
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After I graduated from college, I got a job and started working. I don’t know why we should expect Mr Pollard to do any differently.

(01-11-2019 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Henderson will be at best a mid 2nd round pick.

Considering there are currently zero RBs projected to go in the first round, mid 2nd round would be very impressive.

(01-12-2019 09:46 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  He has his degree. Now go live your life, Pollard.

He sat out one year for the redshirt. Played 3 years for the Tigers. He has graduated. He is now around 22 and wants to attempt to make the nfl. Again, he thinks when teams see him perform, that he will somehow land on a roster. He knows the odds are against him.

(01-12-2019 11:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  That's a bad move there. He could've benefited one more year of putting on more weight and playing the rb position. He would have been more of the focal point of the offense next year. I predict he won't get drafted and won't make a team because he doesn't have a true position. I hope I'm wrong and goodluck to him.

Again this year, the coaches decided to play him at both positions and then behind their own recruits and of course henderson. Tony pollard doesn't care if you line him up at running back or wide receiver, he wanted the ball more. Period.

Tony pollard expected to play a much bigger role this year, but the coaches did not utilize him as much as he expected. They focused more on playing their own recruits (when they could) over fuente recruits in several positions on both sides of the ball. Several fuente recruits were not utilized as much as they thought they would be this past year.

(01-12-2019 02:12 AM)Stammers Wrote:  He will definitely get invited for a tryout and will have 3 or 4 games to impress someone. If he didn't stand out above Coxie or Taylor, how can he reasonably be expected to make an NFL roster? It seems his only shot will be to be so good at returning kicks, that someone keeps him on the roster only for that. If he was running routes and was getting wide open, he would have gotten a lot more touches.

Taylor, coxie and pop are norvell recruits.

Henderson (fuente recruit like pollard) was so talented and a true running back, so he had to start him, and patrick taylor (not pollard) was 2nd in depth chart. Once henderson left, taylor moved to #1 in depth chart, pollard #2. Imo, pollard put on a great performance in the bowl game, but taylor got the majority of the carries especially in the 2nd half. Taylor had 30 carries in that game.

Once they put pollard at #2 running back for the bowl game, they didn't even use him as a receiver.

So that kind of sounds like what next year will bring. Tony pollard at #2 running back while tigers develop other receivers.

And on top of all that, brady white struggled to throw the ball downfield all year long. Pollard probably feels white will return and possibly struggle some more. There are guys on the team who are frustrated with white's lack of passing ability.

Next year's team is gonna have some struggles.

With all this going on, i believe pollard felt he could not really improve his nfl chances by playing his final season here. Plus, you have the risk of injury.

I really dislike this situation for a memphis kid and wish him good luck.

(01-11-2019 11:38 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:41 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Someone is really filling these guys heads with bad information. Henderson will be at best a mid 2nd round pick. Pollard has shown nothing regularly except for his ability to return kicks and could even go undrafted.

So you think “at best a mid 2nd round pick” is bad info/advice to go get paid? Or is it that maybe you just like to take a dump on others success?

The issue with Henderson is his size, along with the fact he has had several injuries. This was the first year he has ever lead the team in the number of carries. There are questions about his durability.

While DeAngelo had similar size he was also more durable and was able to hold up to the pounding one gets at the NFL level.

Would any of these factors change if Henderson came back a final year? No way of telling. But DeAngelos stock clearly did go up after returning, due to his carrying the whole team on his back his senior season due to Wimprine's graduation.

100% inaccurate. Deangelo broke his leg in the bowl game his junior year and would have been unable to perform at the combine, therefore it was in his best interest to come back for his senior season. The general consensus, heading into that Jr year bowl game, was that would have been the last time D played in a Memphis jersey (and was a big part why I, personally, went to that dreaded GMAC bowl in Mobile).

I agree there are questions about his durability, but that’s all the more reason not to come back, so again your logic is totally off.

(01-12-2019 01:27 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 09:46 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  He has his degree. Now go live your life, Pollard.

He sat out one year for the redshirt. Played 3 years for the Tigers. He has graduated. He is now around 22 and wants to attempt to make the nfl. Again, he thinks when teams see him perform, that he will somehow land on a roster. He knows the odds are against him.

(01-12-2019 11:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  That's a bad move there. He could've benefited one more year of putting on more weight and playing the rb position. He would have been more of the focal point of the offense next year. I predict he won't get drafted and won't make a team because he doesn't have a true position. I hope I'm wrong and goodluck to him.

Again this year, the coaches decided to play him at both positions and then behind their own recruits and of course henderson. Tony pollard doesn't care if you line him up at running back or wide receiver, he wanted the ball more. Period.

Tony pollard expected to play a much bigger role this year, but the coaches did not utilize him as much as he expected. They focused more on playing their own recruits (when they could) over fuente recruits in several positions on both sides of the ball. Several fuente recruits were not utilized as much as they thought they would be this past year.

(01-12-2019 02:12 AM)Stammers Wrote:  He will definitely get invited for a tryout and will have 3 or 4 games to impress someone. If he didn't stand out above Coxie or Taylor, how can he reasonably be expected to make an NFL roster? It seems his only shot will be to be so good at returning kicks, that someone keeps him on the roster only for that. If he was running routes and was getting wide open, he would have gotten a lot more touches.

Taylor, coxie and pop are norvell recruits.

Henderson (fuente recruit like pollard) was so talented and a true running back, so he had to start him, and patrick taylor (not pollard) was 2nd in depth chart. Once henderson left, taylor moved to #1 in depth chart, pollard #2. Imo, pollard put on a great performance in the bowl game, but taylor got the majority of the carries especially in the 2nd half. Taylor had 30 carries in that game.

Once they put pollard at #2 running back for the bowl game, they didn't even use him as a receiver.

So that kind of sounds like what next year will bring. Tony pollard at #2 running back while tigers develop other receivers.

And on top of all that, brady white struggled to throw the ball downfield all year long. Pollard probably feels white will return and possibly struggle some more. There are guys on the team who are frustrated with white's lack of passing ability.

Next year's team is gonna have some struggles.

With all this going on, i believe pollard felt he could not really improve his nfl chances by playing his final season here. Plus, you have the risk of injury.

I really dislike this situation for a memphis kid and wish him good luck.

His biggest reason for not as much action was Henderson. Not knocking the kid. Still think it was a bad move. This is one case where I believe 1 year would have made him better by hitting the weight room and playing running back. I don't think he will make a NFL team.

(01-12-2019 02:30 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:27 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 09:46 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  He has his degree. Now go live your life, Pollard.

He sat out one year for the redshirt. Played 3 years for the Tigers. He has graduated. He is now around 22 and wants to attempt to make the nfl. Again, he thinks when teams see him perform, that he will somehow land on a roster. He knows the odds are against him.

(01-12-2019 11:19 AM)Crazier Wrote:  That's a bad move there. He could've benefited one more year of putting on more weight and playing the rb position. He would have been more of the focal point of the offense next year. I predict he won't get drafted and won't make a team because he doesn't have a true position. I hope I'm wrong and goodluck to him.

Again this year, the coaches decided to play him at both positions and then behind their own recruits and of course henderson. Tony pollard doesn't care if you line him up at running back or wide receiver, he wanted the ball more. Period.

Tony pollard expected to play a much bigger role this year, but the coaches did not utilize him as much as he expected. They focused more on playing their own recruits (when they could) over fuente recruits in several positions on both sides of the ball. Several fuente recruits were not utilized as much as they thought they would be this past year.

(01-12-2019 02:12 AM)Stammers Wrote:  He will definitely get invited for a tryout and will have 3 or 4 games to impress someone. If he didn't stand out above Coxie or Taylor, how can he reasonably be expected to make an NFL roster? It seems his only shot will be to be so good at returning kicks, that someone keeps him on the roster only for that. If he was running routes and was getting wide open, he would have gotten a lot more touches.

Taylor, coxie and pop are norvell recruits.

Henderson (fuente recruit like pollard) was so talented and a true running back, so he had to start him, and patrick taylor (not pollard) was 2nd in depth chart. Once henderson left, taylor moved to #1 in depth chart, pollard #2. Imo, pollard put on a great performance in the bowl game, but taylor got the majority of the carries especially in the 2nd half. Taylor had 30 carries in that game.

Once they put pollard at #2 running back for the bowl game, they didn't even use him as a receiver.

So that kind of sounds like what next year will bring. Tony pollard at #2 running back while tigers develop other receivers.

And on top of all that, brady white struggled to throw the ball downfield all year long. Pollard probably feels white will return and possibly struggle some more. There are guys on the team who are frustrated with white's lack of passing ability.

Next year's team is gonna have some struggles.

With all this going on, i believe pollard felt he could not really improve his nfl chances by playing his final season here. Plus, you have the risk of injury.

I really dislike this situation for a memphis kid and wish him good luck.

His biggest reason for not as much action was Henderson. Not knocking the kid. Still think it was a bad move. This is one case where I believe 1 year would have made him better by hitting the weight room and playing running back. I don't think he will make a NFL team.

He's going to be behind Patrick Taylor, every indication is that Taylor will get even more carries than DH did this year.

Plus, Gainwell is going to be in the mix. I think Pollard saw that this year was his best option. I haven't analyzed the pool of RBs / flex guys coming out, but I bet Tony Pollard has.

I have no idea if he gets drafted, but I'm cheering for him. Again, the combine is going to be huge, run a 4.4 and you rocket up draft boards. Run a 4.6 and you better start looking at Canada or a job outside of playing football.

(01-11-2019 09:26 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  Someone is really filling these guys heads with bad information. Henderson will be at best a mid 2nd round pick. Pollard has shown nothing regularly except for his ability to return kicks and could even go undrafted.

Well damn...your description of Pollard makes me think we shouldn’t want him back. Sounds like he’s unreliable trash.