(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Sheriff Israel is a big buddy of Roger Stone. He's all over the map. He was a Republican until the day before he ran for office.

I do think this has everything to do with Ron wanting to punish him for opposing the NRA. I suspect that the new unelected sheriff is a homophobe as well, which will go over like a lead balloon in Broward, home to a massive LGBT population.

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I do note that many Republicans, once again, have decided that elections, if they don't go your way, feel that elections should just be ignored, like in Venezuela. And that local control is irrelevant. Remember this when we take control in 2021.

You are a racist



https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/01/11/sc...d-sheriff/

Quote:On Friday, Governor Ron Desantis suspended Broward Sheriff Scott Israel and named Gregory Tony as interim sheriff.

“This is an enormous honor and privilege to be appointed Sheriff of Broward County,” said newly appointed Broward County Sheriff Gregory Tony. “It is my intention to embark on this enormous task to restore the confidence of families and residents of Broward County toward the Broward Sheriff’s Office, which also requires that I fix the problems that exist. I thank Governor Ron DeSantis for this honor and I commit to faithfully fulfilling my duties to this office.”

Tony is the county’s first African-American sheriff.

Actually the association that makes me suspect homophobia comes from his association with a white man, Bobby Bowden. That was a full on FCA program. He appears to be a gun nut too. Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....Maybe he's a supporter of the LGBT community against the right wing, but I have my doubts. Maybe he will prove me wrong.

Racist

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

LOL. These are some pretty weak 'racism' accusations. The NRA and FCA, as well as Governor Ron deHomophobe, aren't black organizations per se. But you're free to indulge in your racism turrets.

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

Don't know about the left, but that seems to be the case for you.

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....

Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.

And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

(01-12-2019 12:12 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 10:51 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 05:35 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The Broward Coward has been officially suspended.

Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, who faced criticism over his department’s response to the deadly Parkland, Florida, school shooting last year, was officially suspended by newly sworn-in Gov. Ron DeSantis on Friday.

"Sheriff Israel has repeatedly failed and has demonstrated a pattern of poor leadership," DeSantis said in a statement.


"He failed to protect Floridians and visitors during the tragic Fort Lauderdale International Airport shooting in 2017. He failed in his duties to keep our families and children safe during the devastating shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on February 14, 2018," the statement read. "These incidents demonstrate Sheriff’s Israel’s repeated incompetence and neglect of duty. The families of the victims deserve accountability.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-gover...ott-israel

Yet another of your ‘hoeros if the left’ that I’ve never heard of even though I’m a liberal.

You were probably banned from this site during that time, so I'll forgive you if you werent able to get on here to keep your education up.

you can read the board while banned and moreover, if conservatives feel the need to 'educate' people on who their heroes REALLY are then they aren't really heroes at all. Good day.

(01-12-2019 01:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:52 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Sounds good so far.

The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.

And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

Sorry Charlie, 2nd Amendment stays. People aren't afraid of gays either.

(01-12-2019 01:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  The problem is that if you hate the people you serve, you can't effectively police anything.

But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.

And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

Sorry Charlie, 2nd Amendment stays. People aren't afraid of gays either.

what about gays who love the 2nd amendment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

(01-12-2019 02:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  But you don't have any proof of that, just like almost every other time you post. Obviously you are opposed to Acting Sheriff Tony simply because you are racist.

Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.

And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

Sorry Charlie, 2nd Amendment stays. People aren't afraid of gays either.

what about gays who love the 2nd amendment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

Yes, there are 10 LGBT people, out of about 20 million, that support the NRA and have a gun club. About 12 percent of LGBT voters support the Republicans. Among white Gay men, that number is close to 20 percent (its virtually zero among other LGBT groups). Among white Gay men without college degrees, its close to 25 percent. I know a few LGBT GOPers. I know zero members of pink pistols nor have I ever heard anyone support them.

So, to the 10 or so members of Pink Pistols that are actually out LGBT persons....too bad, you have to comply with the same laws we all do. And if there's going to be some fully constitutional registration requirements, taxes, storage requirements, limits on places it can be carried, or bans on certain types of clips or firearms, then you will have equality in that you will have to comply as well.

(01-12-2019 03:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 02:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.

And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

Sorry Charlie, 2nd Amendment stays. People aren't afraid of gays either.

what about gays who love the 2nd amendment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

Yes, there are 10 LGBT people, out of about 20 million, that support the NRA and have a gun club. About 12 percent of LGBT voters support the Republicans. Among white Gay men, that number is close to 20 percent (its virtually zero among other LGBT groups). Among white Gay men without college degrees, its close to 25 percent. I know a few LGBT GOPers. I know zero members of pink pistols nor have I ever heard anyone support them.

So, to the 10 or so members of Pink Pistols that are actually out LGBT persons....too bad, you have to comply with the same laws we all do. And if there's going to be some fully constitutional registration requirements, taxes, storage requirements, limits on places it can be carried, or bans on certain types of clips or firearms, then you will have equality in that you will have to comply as well.

None of that is going to stop people from killing/shooting someone else. Criminals won't follow any of that stuff.

(01-12-2019 03:52 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 02:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:40 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:33 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 01:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Because clearly, to those on the left, the most important job qualifications for a sheriff isnt that he engages an active school shooter and prevents the slaughter of our children. Its that he openly supports someone sticking a ***** in some dudes ass.

You can't protect children and the NRA at the same time. Until the new guy condemns the NRA, he's not protecting anyone.
And yes, LGBT persons do have a right to vote for a Sheriff that isn't homophobic. But apparently, Ron deHomophobe and the GOP will simply cancel the elections and put someone with a bad history of associations in the role without the consent of ANY of the governed.

Sorry Charlie, 2nd Amendment stays. People aren't afraid of gays either.

what about gays who love the 2nd amendment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols

Yes, there are 10 LGBT people, out of about 20 million, that support the NRA and have a gun club. About 12 percent of LGBT voters support the Republicans. Among white Gay men, that number is close to 20 percent (its virtually zero among other LGBT groups). Among white Gay men without college degrees, its close to 25 percent. I know a few LGBT GOPers. I know zero members of pink pistols nor have I ever heard anyone support them.
So, to the 10 or so members of Pink Pistols that are actually out LGBT persons....too bad, you have to comply with the same laws we all do. And if there's going to be some fully constitutional registration requirements, taxes, storage requirements, limits on places it can be carried, or bans on certain types of clips or firearms, then you will have equality in that you will have to comply as well.

Dear God, please spare us from that.

And by the way, you can make the NRA happy and protect children at the same time. The stuff you suggest would piss off the NRA, but it would do precious little to save children.

(01-12-2019 08:21 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  Another question. Do all governors have the authority to remove a Sheriff? I thought a locally voted official would have to he recalled

I don't know about all but Florida's governor can.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Gov-...89561.html

Quote:Under Florida law, the governor can suspend elected officials for criminal activity, misfeasance, incompetence or neglect of duty.

Pretty sure that the commission report on the Parkland shooting meets the incompetence standard:

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Comm...92101.html

Quote:BROWARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE



Former Deputy Scot Peterson was derelict in his duty on February 14, 2018, failed to act consistent with his training and fled to a position of personal safety while Cruz shot and killed MSDHS students and staff. Peterson was in a position to engage Cruz and mitigate further harm to others and he willfully decided not to do so. There is overwhelming evidence that Deputy Peterson knew that the gunshots were coming from within or within the immediate area of building 12. Furthermore, there is no evidence to suggest that Peterson attempted to investigate the source of the gunshots. In fact, the statement of Security Specialist Greenleaf confirms Peterson did not attempt to identify the source of the gunshots and by all accounts – including surveillance video - Peterson retreated to an area of safety.

On February 14th, the BSO law enforcement response to MSDHS was hindered in part by MSDHS School Resource Officer Scot Peterson’s erroneous directions and other improper information he relayed over BSO’s main radio channel 8A to include, directing responding deputies to shut down nearby intersections and requesting no pedestrian traffic anywhere on nearby roads.

Peterson instructed deputies to stay at least 500 feet away from the 12 or 1300 buildings. These instructions conflict with current law enforcement response procedures to active shooter situations. Law enforcement officers should try to eliminate any immediate threat even if that requires approaching gunfire and danger.

Deputy Peterson responded to the area of building 12 within approximately 1 minute 39 seconds after the first shots were fired. Prior to his arrival 21 victims had already been shot, 9 of which were fatally wounded. This makes clear that seconds matter and that SRO’s cannot be relied upon as the only protection for schools. Even if there is a rapid response by an SRO, it is insufficient in and of itself to safeguard students and teachers. One SRO per campus is inadequate to ensure a timely and effective response to an active assailant situation and some campuses require additional armed personnel.

Several uniformed BSO deputies were either seen on camera or described taking the time to retrieve and put on their ballistic vests, sometimes in excess of one minute and in response to hearing gunshots. Deputy sheriffs who took the time to retrieve vests from containers in their cruisers, removed certain equipment they were wearing so that they could put on their vests, and then replaced the equipment they had removed all while shots were being fired, or had been recently fired is unacceptable and contrary to accepted protocol under which the deputies should have immediately moved towards the gunshots to confront the shooter.

Several BSO deputies arrived on Holmberg Road, just north of building 12 while shots were being fired and most of them heard the shots. These deputies have been identified as Kratz, Eason, Stambaugh, Perry, Seward, and Goolsby. These deputies remained on Holmberg road and did not immediately move towards the gunshots to confront the shooter. The deputies’ actions appear to be a violation of accepted protocol under which the deputies should have immediately moved towards the gunshots.

The Broward County Public School’s decision not to allow law enforcement live and real time direct access to the school camera systems in Broward County, including the system at MSDHS, adversely affected law enforcement efforts to locate Cruz and it hampered victim rescue efforts.

Sergeant Miller was the first responding supervisor and he arrived on Holmberg Road at least by 2:27:03. By his own statements he heard 3 to 4 shots upon arrival. Miller was not wearing his ballistic vest and took time to put it on. Miller was on scene for approximately 7 minutes before BSO’s radio throttling began; therefore, radio capacity issues did not exist at the time of Miller’s arrival. Miller failed to coordinate or direct deputies’ actions and did not direct or coordinate an immediate response into the school. Miller was observed behind his car on Holmberg Road and he did not initiate any radio transmissions until approximately 10 minutes after arriving on scene. Sergeant Miller’s actions were ineffective and he did not properly supervise the scene.

Captain Jordan failed to timely establish an incident command and was ineffective is her duties as the initial incident commander. While Capt. Jordan experienced radio problems that hindered her ability to transmit, nobody reported receiving command and control directions from Jordan in person. Jordan spent approximately the first 7 minutes after her arrival in the building 1 office and then transitioned to a position of cover in the north parking lot behind a car with Deputy Perry.

BSO deputies had some level of knowledge and familiarity with their active shooter policy. Several of them referenced that their policy states that they "may" enter a building or structure to engage an active shooter. The use of the word “may” in the BSO policy is ambiguous and does not unequivocally convey the expectation that deputies are expected to immediately enter an active assailant scene where gun fire is active and neutralize the threat.

Some deputies could not remember the last time they attended active shooter training. Some deputies could not recall what type of training they received. CSPD officers had a high level of knowledge and familiarity with their active shooter policy. Many reference that the policy sates they “shall” engage the threat. All CSPD officers remembered their active shooter training because they attend the training on an annual basis. Many of the officers praised the quality of their training and the equipment which they are provided.

MSD Commission Prepares for Final Report

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Sheriff Israel is a big buddy of Roger Stone. He's all over the map. He was a Republican until the day before he ran for office.

I do think this has everything to do with Ron wanting to punish him for opposing the NRA. I suspect that the new unelected sheriff is a homophobe as well, which will go over like a lead balloon in Broward, home to a massive LGBT population.

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I do note that many Republicans, once again, have decided that elections, if they don't go your way, feel that elections should just be ignored, like in Venezuela. And that local control is irrelevant. Remember this when we take control in 2021.

You are a racist



https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/01/11/sc...d-sheriff/

Quote:On Friday, Governor Ron Desantis suspended Broward Sheriff Scott Israel and named Gregory Tony as interim sheriff.

“This is an enormous honor and privilege to be appointed Sheriff of Broward County,” said newly appointed Broward County Sheriff Gregory Tony. “It is my intention to embark on this enormous task to restore the confidence of families and residents of Broward County toward the Broward Sheriff’s Office, which also requires that I fix the problems that exist. I thank Governor Ron DeSantis for this honor and I commit to faithfully fulfilling my duties to this office.”

Tony is the county’s first African-American sheriff.

Actually the association that makes me suspect homophobia comes from his association with a white man, Bobby Bowden. That was a full on FCA program. He appears to be a gun nut too. Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....Maybe he's a supporter of the LGBT community against the right wing, but I have my doubts. Maybe he will prove me wrong.

I feel sorry for you.

Notice how none on the left has disavowed this coward.

(01-12-2019 12:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:18 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Sheriff Israel is a big buddy of Roger Stone. He's all over the map. He was a Republican until the day before he ran for office.

I do think this has everything to do with Ron wanting to punish him for opposing the NRA. I suspect that the new unelected sheriff is a homophobe as well, which will go over like a lead balloon in Broward, home to a massive LGBT population.

-----

I do note that many Republicans, once again, have decided that elections, if they don't go your way, feel that elections should just be ignored, like in Venezuela. And that local control is irrelevant. Remember this when we take control in 2021.

You are a racist



https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/01/11/sc...d-sheriff/

Quote:On Friday, Governor Ron Desantis suspended Broward Sheriff Scott Israel and named Gregory Tony as interim sheriff.

“This is an enormous honor and privilege to be appointed Sheriff of Broward County,” said newly appointed Broward County Sheriff Gregory Tony. “It is my intention to embark on this enormous task to restore the confidence of families and residents of Broward County toward the Broward Sheriff’s Office, which also requires that I fix the problems that exist. I thank Governor Ron DeSantis for this honor and I commit to faithfully fulfilling my duties to this office.”

Tony is the county’s first African-American sheriff.

Actually the association that makes me suspect homophobia comes from his association with a white man, Bobby Bowden. That was a full on FCA program. He appears to be a gun nut too. Football player, playing for a FCA program, gun nut....Maybe he's a supporter of the LGBT community against the right wing, but I have my doubts. Maybe he will prove me wrong.

Boy, you didn't waste any time. First response you label him as being a homophobe. Second post he's a "gun nut" - whatever that is supposed to mean. Isn't he a sexist too, or do you want to wait to play that typical Democrat accusation later? What is it with you left wingers and your negative labels (Sexist, Racist, Homophobe, etc.)? I can't remember any Conservative that has run for office that hasn't in short order had one or more of the Democrat Playbook Labels thrown at them. It's pretty much all they ever do.

So it truly is team over everything else. Israel was completely negligent and political in his positions and stances, and his pursuit of leftist goals resulted in a tragedy where more kids were killed by a crazed gunman that would have been had he followed protocol.

That the Florida governor has the right to remove him is something you need to address within Florida.

But, that you continue to support this individual that clearly betrayed the public trust given to him because of his espoused political views, ignoring the carnage this loser has left in his wake, is reprehensible. In my humble opinion, you are a degenerate that I, by law, am forced to tolerate. Fair enough and your business. However, when you cannot see beyond your myopic, and petty, self-interests to condemn a political self-serving hack of a Sheriff, whose actions and policies directly increased the carnage on that horrible day, you move past being someone with a lifestyle I will never support to a loathsome and dangerous partisan leftist self-serving pig. You disgust me.