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So when Cane hit the shot at the buzzer I received an ESPN alert on my phone. I peeked at it because I figured the broadcast was on a slight delay. The ESPN alert announced the final score with Cincinnati winning 59-58! So I was waiting for the referees to finish their review of the shot and announce that it was a 3 for the UC win!

When that didn't happen I was then expecting a Tulsa foul on the inbounds play, giving UC free throws for the win.

Then it went to OT and ESPN didn't send out any more game alerts.

It turned out fine for UC anyways...

Loved JT III on the broadcast admonishing the Tulsa fans not to "wake a sleeping dog" by their continuous verbal assault on Cumberland. That turned out to be pretty prophetic when overtime arrived. I'm guessing their fans thought it was all over with a 1:20 to go and a six point lead and some were headed for the exits early, as we often see at Fifth-Third.

Terrific, and important victory for this season's NCAA hopes, particularly when we think about how we all feel when ravaged by a stomach virus. I appreciate the players (and coaches) persevering through all that.

Having said that, it's still the case that UC just doesn't have enough guys that can score. Brooks, Jenifer, Logan, Fredericks and Nsoseme combine for five points. Alternately, Trevor Moore with a critical three pointer and nine total. To me, he's the one guy right now who could help deliver victories off the bench. Otherwise, these road games that come down to the last possession, become a 50/50 proposition, at best (ECU & Tulsa are the proof). 50/50 won't get it done in a conference where UC will only see one ranked team the rest of the season.

Quite often I turn off the announcers on the broadcast and listen to WLW instead. But JT III was excellent and insightful last night. Especially when he pointed out after Tulsa stole the ball from Cumberland at the foul line that Tulsa practiced Cumberland coming to a jump stop at the spot, and having the guard reach back to make the steal.

(01-11-2019 09:25 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Loved JT III on the broadcast admonishing the Tulsa fans not to "wake a sleeping dog" by their continuous verbal assault on Cumberland. That turned out to be pretty prophetic when overtime arrived. I'm guessing their fans thought it was all over with a 1:20 to go and a six point lead and some were headed for the exits early, as we often see at Fifth-Third.

Terrific, and important victory for this season's NCAA hopes, particularly when we think about how we all feel when ravaged by a stomach virus. I appreciate the players (and coaches) persevering through all that.

Having said that, it's still the case that UC just doesn't have enough guys that can score. Brooks, Jenifer, Logan, Fredericks and Nsoseme combine for five points. Alternately, Trevor Moore with a critical three pointer and nine total. To me, he's the one guy right now who could help deliver victories off the bench. Otherwise, these road games that come down to the last possession, become a 50/50 proposition, at best (ECU & Tulsa are the proof). 50/50 won't get it done in a conference where UC will only see one ranked team the rest of the season.

1. I don't understand the burning desire to beat the crowd out of the game. If the game is out of hand then I don't see an issue leaving but if the outcome isn't sealed I don't see why people feel the need to push it.
2. The committee doesn't break down all the circumstances behind the game but winning with all the illnesses is a monumental effort. This win was a lot more impressive than it will appear on paper. Hopefully a couple days helps some of the guys but it sounds like Tre and Brooks are on the front end of the illness.
3. I think Brooks has been pretty good offensively at times this year but obviously wasn't himself last night. I don't think JJ is good at generating offense but he's been great shooting the three. If the rest of our offense is working that's a huge asset.

(01-11-2019 09:35 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:25 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Loved JT III on the broadcast admonishing the Tulsa fans not to "wake a sleeping dog" by their continuous verbal assault on Cumberland. That turned out to be pretty prophetic when overtime arrived. I'm guessing their fans thought it was all over with a 1:20 to go and a six point lead and some were headed for the exits early, as we often see at Fifth-Third.

Terrific, and important victory for this season's NCAA hopes, particularly when we think about how we all feel when ravaged by a stomach virus. I appreciate the players (and coaches) persevering through all that.

Having said that, it's still the case that UC just doesn't have enough guys that can score. Brooks, Jenifer, Logan, Fredericks and Nsoseme combine for five points. Alternately, Trevor Moore with a critical three pointer and nine total. To me, he's the one guy right now who could help deliver victories off the bench. Otherwise, these road games that come down to the last possession, become a 50/50 proposition, at best (ECU & Tulsa are the proof). 50/50 won't get it done in a conference where UC will only see one ranked team the rest of the season.

1. I don't understand the burning desire to beat the crowd out of the game. If the game is out of hand then I don't see an issue leaving but if the outcome isn't sealed I don't see why people feel the need to push it.
2. The committee doesn't break down all the circumstances behind the game but winning with all the illnesses is a monumental effort. This win was a lot more impressive than it will appear on paper. Hopefully a couple days helps some of the guys but it sounds like Tre and Brooks are on the front end of the illness.
3. I think Brooks has been pretty good offensively at times this year but obviously wasn't himself last night. I don't think JJ is good at generating offense but he's been great shooting the three. If the rest of our offense is working that's a huge asset.

Not sure why, but there are a percentage of people out there that always want to "beat traffic" by leaving early. I've been to a lot of sporting events in my years-- have left early, on time and well after-- and for my money there is no real savings on leaving early, particularly for a basketball game when the crowd is not that big to begin with. TBH, the only time I have really "beaten traffic" is when I stick around post-game for a while.

And a (half) capacity crowd of 4,342 on hand for last night's titanic struggle. Can't imagine "traffic" in Tulsa is an issue.

The American has a major attendance issue with the teams that were grafted on after the demise of the old Big East: Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU in particular. It's hard to argue P6 with such crowds. And UC may be the best visiting conference opponent year in and year out.

(01-11-2019 09:54 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  And a (half) capacity crowd of 4,342 on hand for last night's titanic struggle. Can't imagine "traffic" in Tulsa is an issue.

The American has a major attendance issue with the teams that were grafted on after the demise of the old Big East: Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU in particular. It's hard to argue P6 with such crowds. And UC may be the best visiting conference opponent year in and year out.

There’s no remedy for Tulsa, Tulane and SMU. All three are universities with small enrollment (fewer than XU) and less than 80,000 living alums. To make matters worse most of the alums don’t live in those cities after they exit college. Tulsa and Tulane were bad additions.

ECU was also a bad addition for a variety of reasons. They are at best the 7th best basketball program in NC.



No

(01-11-2019 12:38 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  Did not catch the whole game, just bits and pieces. Glad the Cats were able to overcome and win a tough road contest against a team picked 9th in the conference, after losing to the team picked dead last. Things are looking up with that and all the stud recruits we have coming in. Dare I say that this was our Super Bowl? Oops, I went all negative on you. How times and expectations have changed when an OT win over freaking Tulsa is a panacea. Sorry, not sorry at all.

It brings me such joy thinking about you guys wasting your free time and secretly rooting against UC hoops. Absolutely hilarious.

(01-11-2019 10:23 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:54 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  And a (half) capacity crowd of 4,342 on hand for last night's titanic struggle. Can't imagine "traffic" in Tulsa is an issue.

The American has a major attendance issue with the teams that were grafted on after the demise of the old Big East: Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU in particular. It's hard to argue P6 with such crowds. And UC may be the best visiting conference opponent year in and year out.

There’s no remedy for Tulsa, Tulane and SMU. All three are universities with small enrollment (fewer than XU) and less than 80,000 living alums. To make matters worse most of the alums don’t live in those cities after they exit college. Tulsa and Tulane were bad additions.

ECU was also a bad addition for a variety of reasons. They are at best the 7th best basketball program in NC.



No

I like the SMU addition better than the others but Tulane and Tulsa made no sense. ECU has a good football fanbase. Would have liked to have seen Marshall, Ohio, Dayton, and VCU instead of Tulane and Tulsa. The league should have tried to maintain some of its northern roots and give Cincinnati, UConn, and Temple a few close road trips.

(01-11-2019 09:41 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:35 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:25 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Loved JT III on the broadcast admonishing the Tulsa fans not to "wake a sleeping dog" by their continuous verbal assault on Cumberland. That turned out to be pretty prophetic when overtime arrived. I'm guessing their fans thought it was all over with a 1:20 to go and a six point lead and some were headed for the exits early, as we often see at Fifth-Third.

Terrific, and important victory for this season's NCAA hopes, particularly when we think about how we all feel when ravaged by a stomach virus. I appreciate the players (and coaches) persevering through all that.

Having said that, it's still the case that UC just doesn't have enough guys that can score. Brooks, Jenifer, Logan, Fredericks and Nsoseme combine for five points. Alternately, Trevor Moore with a critical three pointer and nine total. To me, he's the one guy right now who could help deliver victories off the bench. Otherwise, these road games that come down to the last possession, become a 50/50 proposition, at best (ECU & Tulsa are the proof). 50/50 won't get it done in a conference where UC will only see one ranked team the rest of the season.

1. I don't understand the burning desire to beat the crowd out of the game. If the game is out of hand then I don't see an issue leaving but if the outcome isn't sealed I don't see why people feel the need to push it.
2. The committee doesn't break down all the circumstances behind the game but winning with all the illnesses is a monumental effort. This win was a lot more impressive than it will appear on paper. Hopefully a couple days helps some of the guys but it sounds like Tre and Brooks are on the front end of the illness.
3. I think Brooks has been pretty good offensively at times this year but obviously wasn't himself last night. I don't think JJ is good at generating offense but he's been great shooting the three. If the rest of our offense is working that's a huge asset.

Not sure why, but there are a percentage of people out there that always want to "beat traffic" by leaving early. I've been to a lot of sporting events in my years-- have left early, on time and well after-- and for my money there is no real savings on leaving early, particularly for a basketball game when the crowd is not that big to begin with. TBH, the only time I have really "beaten traffic" is when I stick around post-game for a while.

In the past we have only left UC BB games early when we are up huge or are hugely disgusted. This year though, UC seemingly put everybody with a parking pass in Campus Green garage and it has been a nightmare getting out.

(01-11-2019 12:38 AM)rtaylor Wrote:  Did not catch the whole game, just bits and pieces. Glad the Cats were able to overcome and win a tough road contest against a team picked 9th in the conference, after losing to the team picked dead last. Things are looking up with that and all the stud recruits we have coming in. Dare I say that this was our Super Bowl? Oops, I went all negative on you. How times and expectations have changed when an OT win over freaking Tulsa is a panacea. Sorry, not sorry at all.

Since we're basing things on preseason rankings, the team picked to finish 2nd in the Big 12 lost in that building.

(01-11-2019 10:23 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 09:54 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  And a (half) capacity crowd of 4,342 on hand for last night's titanic struggle. Can't imagine "traffic" in Tulsa is an issue.

The American has a major attendance issue with the teams that were grafted on after the demise of the old Big East: Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU in particular. It's hard to argue P6 with such crowds. And UC may be the best visiting conference opponent year in and year out.

There’s no remedy for Tulsa, Tulane and SMU. All three are universities with small enrollment (fewer than XU) and less than 80,000 living alums. To make matters worse most of the alums don’t live in those cities after they exit college. Tulsa and Tulane were bad additions.


ECU was also a bad addition for a variety of reasons. They are at best the 7th best basketball program in NC.



No

You are correct that the three were bad additions. That said Wiki shows:

Tulane 13,581
SMU 11,789
Eggsaver 6,650
Tulsa 4,433

Except for these 3 private schools all other schools are large public universities. Largest beinf UCF at 66,183 to the smallest Memphis at 21,521.

ECU meets the average public profile and the football used to be good, the basketball never was good.

I like Tulane because then every other year we go to NOLA and get some great times. That said I would be happy if one to all three good the foot.

Any addition should be all sports.

UMASS 30,340 the FB sucks but could be elevated
Marshall 13,631 nice road trip
NTSU 36,216 former MO VALLEY foe
UAB 18,698 old Metro CUSA foe Football is back but Legion Field still sucks

FIU and FAU are big and public but we already have to FL schools.

Now what we really want is OUT!

(01-10-2019 11:06 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  ECU couldn't miss against us but 4-22 on three point shots against Memphis. Freshman Gardner really looks special though wish we had him on our front line.

Gardner is going to be a beast. He has Adrian Dantley and Michael Sweetney skills, if any of the old-timers remember the great Notre Dame and Georgetown players that dominated on the low block. If he gains 20-25 pounds, he is Danny Fortson-like.

(01-11-2019 01:05 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  

(01-10-2019 11:06 PM)cincybb51 Wrote:  ECU couldn't miss against us but 4-22 on three point shots against Memphis. Freshman Gardner really looks special though wish we had him on our front line.

Gardner is going to be a beast. He has Adrian Dantley and Michael Sweetney skills, if any of the old-timers remember the great Notre Dame and Georgetown players that dominated on the low block. If he gains 20-25 pounds, he is Danny Fortson-like.

He should be one and done. He is ready.

I'm still working on decoding Gardner's mysterious turn to the right before he shoots the free throw. I haven't seen that one in quite a while. Maybe Brooks should try that herky jerky when they're not dropping.